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18 Dec 2008, 04:49
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Top 100 scannable
Could we have the scans [PLDUNIJA] available directly on Top100 universe page ?
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18 Dec 2008, 23:18
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Re: Top 100 scannable
no don't be lazy, that'd add unnecessary figures n stuff and it's just lazy :/
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18 Dec 2008, 23:48
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Re: Top 100 scannable
I like the idea... But well, I am lazy.
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19 Dec 2008, 05:11
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Membrivio
I like the idea... But well, I am lazy.
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lazy = userfriendly
sounds good
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19 Dec 2008, 11:57
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Re: Top 100 scannable
No, it'll add too much useless stuff to the t100 page and tbh, if you're too lazy to make 1 more mouseclick to get to the planet's gal and scan from there chances are you're going to die somewhere in the next 15 minutes caus breathing is o so haaaaaaaaaard :/
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19 Dec 2008, 14:01
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Re: Top 100 scannable
You are retired. Stay retired
I am lazy and I like userfriendliness.
Hence I am a proponent of this idea.
And there is enuff room for it!
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19 Dec 2008, 14:50
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Re: Top 100 scannable
I'm against cluttering up the t100 page. Clutter is bad and not user friendly.
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19 Dec 2008, 15:40
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Re: Top 100 scannable
OK.
A special top100 scan tab is also an option!
I want it to be easier !
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19 Dec 2008, 16:16
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Membrivio
OK.
A special top100 scan tab is also an option!
I want it to be easier !
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no
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19 Dec 2008, 16:18
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mz.
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Membrivio
OK.
A special top100 scan tab is also an option!
I want it to be easier !
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"Wanna, wanna, WANNA!"
Try stomping your feet and screaming, maybe that'll work.
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19 Dec 2008, 16:46
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Membrivio
You are retired. Stay retired
I am lazy and I like userfriendliness.
Hence I am a proponent of this idea.
And there is enuff room for it!
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Userfriendliness does not equal putting everything on every page.
PA needs improvements in userfriendliness sure, but this suggestion is hardly an improvement.
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19 Dec 2008, 18:20
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Re: Top 100 scannable
i thought this thread was an appeal to make the top 100 scannable no matter what distorters they have :P
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19 Dec 2008, 18:38
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
"Wanna, wanna, WANNA!"
Try stomping your feet and screaming, maybe that'll work.
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And you think for such suggestion there are 1000 lines to post to reason it more? I think the only way is to try to get atention away from posters wanting to do everything the hard way. Ie click multiple times and return to do the same again... and repeat this few times more to make sure its very enjoyable to play the game!!!!
Top 100 is an achievement rank, not a hitlist, agreed there. However, since it contains also the most juicy targets and as the biggest threaths in game, reason to observe what fleet they are building, it could be made easy to scan them to check them out, to either counter their fleets, target them, or simply to learn from them.
nuff said.
Lazy = ftw.
We do not have active coders for bigger changes, so lets change these smaller things, which are easier to edit and requires less time.
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19 Dec 2008, 19:02
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
"Wanna, wanna, WANNA!"
Try stomping your feet and screaming, maybe that'll work.
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I did stomp my feet... And then you appeared!
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19 Dec 2008, 23:49
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Ave
And you think for such suggestion there are 1000 lines to post to reason it more? I think the only way is to try to get atention away from posters wanting to do everything the hard way. Ie click multiple times and return to do the same again... and repeat this few times more to make sure its very enjoyable to play the game!!!!
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No offence, but you have no idea what you're talking about. ellonweb is correct, this is pointless clutter, and pointless clutter is not user friendly. Not everything can be done with one click.
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Originally Posted by Ave
Top 100 is an achievement rank, not a hitlist, agreed there. However, since it contains also the most juicy targets and as the biggest threaths in game, reason to observe what fleet they are building, it could be made easy to scan them to check them out, to either counter their fleets, target them, or simply to learn from them.
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No one made this point, so I'm not sure why you're arguing against it.
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Originally Posted by Ave
nuff said.
Lazy = ftw.
We do not have active coders for bigger changes, so lets change these smaller things, which are easier to edit and requires less time.
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"There is not enough man power to make the big good changes, so let's make small bad ones instead".
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19 Dec 2008, 23:51
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Re: Top 100 scannable
did you find yourself a new victim there Mz. lets hope the force is strong with him so you dont break him :|
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20 Dec 2008, 00:31
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
No offence, but you have no idea what you're talking about. ellonweb is correct, this is pointless clutter, and pointless clutter is not user friendly. Not everything can be done with one click.
No one made this point, so I'm not sure why you're arguing against it.
"There is not enough man power to make the big good changes, so let's make small bad ones instead".
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I just made the point.
It support scanning and hitting big planets... why go search for hours when u can just scan someone from top 100 and launch
for example, whole asc is in top 100, easier to scan from there, than go thrue each galaxy....
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20 Dec 2008, 00:56
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Re: Top 100 scannable
Top planets aren't avoided because scans are one click away from the universe page.
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20 Dec 2008, 18:37
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Re: Top 100 scannable
The only people I can seriously see benefiting from this are Hanzi and similar nuts that enjoy scanning everyone and everything for very little purpose. Why don't we make a page that lists all the planets with the scans next to them?
Serious note, sure an option could be added in the preferences to enable this kinda thing, but as mz said: "There is not enough man power to make the big good changes, so let's make small bad ones instead" - although maybe replace "bad" with "pointless".
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21 Dec 2008, 05:00
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Re: Top 100 scannable
if you cant make the effort to click a few more links to get a scan why would you be thinking about hitting a t100 planet anyway?
also with alliance scanners and scanner chans such as #scans or #transcendancy how many people would actually make use of such a feature if they don't even need to research scans?
Not sure i see the point myself.
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21 Dec 2008, 05:38
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Re: Top 100 scannable
Top 100 is used to pick targets.
Currently:
click planet name > scan planet > click Universe (or hit BACK) > click another planet > click scan
Proposed:
click scan (default open in new window) > click another scan
We should also add the scan options to the Galaxy top 50
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21 Dec 2008, 06:23
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Re: Top 100 scannable
This is very high on my list of things that are shit about Planetarion. I'm sure that if pa team waste time adding scan links to the t100 it will bring hundreds of players back to the game.
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21 Dec 2008, 11:17
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mz.
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Re: Top 100 scannable
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Originally Posted by Makhil
Top 100 is used to pick targets.
Currently:
click planet name > scan planet > click Universe (or hit BACK) > click another planet > click scan
Proposed:
click scan (default open in new window) > click another scan
We should also add the scan options to the Galaxy top 50
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This is ****ing pathetic, that's what it is.
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21 Dec 2008, 11:26
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Re: Top 100 scannable
We demand flesh!
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21 Dec 2008, 16:45
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Re: Top 100 scannable
I personally think the most ideal solution would be a link/button which appears by the planet/ruler name, clicking on it would show a popup window giving various options, such as all the scans, send a message, view galaxy, etc.
I tried the speed round once and being able to scan from the top race/ranking pages would've been highly useful. I assume most people aren't too bothered about it because they use a far superior external site (Sandmans) if they want all the ranking information.
The Planetarion UI has been very poor for a long time. Too much crap has been bolted on without considering the usability of the game.
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