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Unread 12 Oct 2008, 12:32   #51
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions

Oh and Assassin, ASIF i ever tried to join your alliance lol
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions

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You are right ofcourse. With the fantastic stab by the Denial HC on CT round27 im surprised if CT does anything else but work against denial together with someone else.
I wouldn't be so sure. There haven't been any really serious grudges in PA in a long time, save perhaps the (very amusing) Orbit/F-Crew thing.

Politics in PA nowadays consists mostly of alliance X asking alliance Y to hit alliance Z for a few nights. Once those few nights are over, most agreements are implicitly understood to end and it's not uncommon that alliance Y will proceed to team up with alliance Z to hit alliance X for a bit.

When multiple of these shifts of allegiance (r30 name, anyone?) occur within any given round, holding a grudge against any alliance should logically lead to grudges against all alliances. This in turn makes politics utterly impossible, which is bad for any alliance trying to win. So instead alliances choose (and need) to hold no grudges any more, which leads to increased opportunism, as well as more a volatile political arena.

I am not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing. Thoughts?

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that was not really my point with strong, as its pretty obvious denial is very weak politically ( play the round to prove me wrong as this is just a prediction) Denial will have a strong active group of players and might just win on share activity and power, combined with no effort to take them down. but they sure are in for a shitstorm politically and thats why i dont think they will win.
I wouldn't go so far as to call Denial "very weak politically". In my opinion they're on pretty much the same level as for example CT and ND. On the other hand, they're stronger military than both these alliances, which gives them an edge in the early round. It then takes considerable political effort to take Denial down later in the round.

Assuming I'm getting accurate intel (and I have no reason to doubt it), Denial will be going for the win next round, making them one of the more dangerous alliances, along with Ascendancy, and I would probably include Assassins alliance (I forget the name) as well, though for entirely different reasons (namely, fear the unknown).
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions

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I wasnt really going to respond to this, but to have a noob such as yourself critise me is quite ironic. Correct i HCed in Angels, i was asked and brought in for one round (baring in mind i was te only active HC left with it but we wont go into that) And Jenova correct was a failure i have never said otherwise, however, it also doesnt help with me actually been on the hospital bed at the time so put the sole blame on me is hillarious. Maybe the reason why people also dont think we will end high is becuase no one really knows of us? That could also be a reason (ie we have done our own private recuitment of inviting players, we are a small community but a loyal one)
let me hear u say this s**t is BANANAS!
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honestly what a load of cr*p, actions speak louder than words and anything you touch turns to a bag of balls.

i give audentes 4 weeks tops, maybe with posi and tobbe u will make it to the end of the rd.
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let me hear u say this s**t is BANANAS!
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this s**t is BANANAS
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honestly what a load of cr*p, actions speak louder than words and anything you touch turns to a bag of balls.

i give audentes 4 weeks tops, maybe with posi and tobbe u will make it to the end of the rd.


Actually he speaks the truth. And shame on yourself Killerbee for joining the old CBA bandwagon. But your prediciton has been noted and i will enjoy proving yourselves wrong next round and ram those words down your throat. (btw since when did you 2 become a double act? and since when did you do BCing for Jenova? according to your signature. Only people i remmember BCing were Game, Teddy and Bazza. Dont recall any raids from you) Plus how do you know assmans history btw? You only returned a few rounds ago. You wasnt even here when he hced in Angels so how can you comment on this? killerbee ive lost a lot of respect for you latley as your just looking like a fool.

Anyway. Back on topic as i cant be bothered to keep replying to idiots such as CBA and killerbee. I think the ranking will be this:


1) Denial
2) Asc
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Unread 12 Oct 2008, 14:11   #55
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btw since when did you 2 become a double act? and since when did you do BCing for Jenova? according to your signature. Only people i remmember BCing were Game, Teddy and Bazza.
i did
dont talk or offer comments on events you clearly have no idea about

although this is off topic, if u wanna continue this in another thread feel free to start one, i will get the former jenova members to remind you of some facts
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i did
dont talk or offer comments on events you clearly have no idea about

although this is off topic, if u wanna continue this in another thread feel free to start one, i will get the former jenova members to remind you of some facts
yes, lets start a thread about that... OR, just throwing a wild thought out into the open here so bare with me, you can take it to pm.
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Unread 12 Oct 2008, 14:31   #57
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions

haha Will, you were not around when Assman HC'd angels either!!!!
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions

CBA it is easy to slag of people who have HCied when you have never done so yourself. Perhaps you should reflect on why you have never been a HC? Maybe you would upset too many people to be able to run an alliance effectively?

Other than that, hope all is well in your real life.
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Denial is best no doupt about that, weather their political status allows them to win or not is a different story.
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Perhaps you should reflect on why you have never been a HC?
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Denial is best no doupt about that, weather their political status allows them to win or not is a different story.
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They are hardly brining new players to the game.... contribution is hardly anything.

For me personally, you answered your own question
although they aren't bringing new players as such to the game (anyone able to remind of the last alliance that actively brought a large amount of players to the game?) they are bringing the potential for a new alliance to fight among the top ranks and thus increase the competition for 1st. i do believe this still counts as a contribution, and quite a positive one ta that. but lets be honest, it wouldn't even take much for anyone to beat your contribution to planetarion CBA, all you do is devalue the game itself with your retarded posting and constant personal attacks on people with no grounds for such comments.

Once again CBA i would request that you tell the boards just what exactly you do contribute to planetarion as per my previous post (poor attempt at question dodging)
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anyone able to remind of the last alliance that actively brought a large amount of players to the game?
Denial: many of their members came from pia, spm, various other games
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Denial: many of their members came from pia, spm, various other games
how many of these players have stuck around for more than 1 round?
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how many of these players have stuck around for more than 1 round?
afaik alot of the ppl that were in denial the first round they played are still in denial
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Denial have more than a few veterans
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VdM will win the round!
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1) New Dawn
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Once again CBA i would request that you tell the boards just what exactly you do contribute to planetarion as per my previous post (poor attempt at question dodging)
How exactly does CBA's uselessness to PA make him incapable of seeing the same trait in others?
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions

1. Denial
2. Asc
3. Audentes
4. xVx
5. ND
6. VGN
7. CT
8. RESA
9. ROCK
10. ASS
11. F-CREW
12. ORBIT
13. HA
14. HR
15. TOF
16. PATSA
17. Terran Alliance
18. Don`t Panic
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Denial: many of their members came from pia, spm, various other games
Right, about 70% of Denials member in our first round hadn't played the previous round of PA. About 40% had never really played PA at all. From this 70% about 40% played the 2nd round in Denial, plus we had probably a further 20% new players. We have managed to retain most of these "new" players for our next round. Denials "success" has been based on giving these new players the right support, encouragement and direction (and tools) complimented by some experienced heads who're more than willing to share their knowledge of PA. We believe that any person who is active and willing to listen, can be successful in PA regardless of their prior knowledge or experience.

And yes we're aware a lack of experience in our first round (most of the HC had no prior HC experience also, so we'll accept some of the blame too) did probably cost us the win, but you live and learn.

On Topic: I have a feeling Ascendancy will be the ones to beat, JBG or no JBG, but then I said this last round and no one reacted and look what happened.
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions

not so much a rank prediction, as my general feelings about these allies atm

1. Denial <- Mostly varying this on whatever New Dawn does.
2. Asc <- Will place 3rd, maybe 4th.
3. Audentes <- Expecting a finish similar to Nox's (R26)
4. xVx <- Have the core returned to xVx ?
5. ND <- Expecting New Dawn to go to war with Denial early on, and lose
6. VGN <- Expecting a t5 rank
7. CT <- Will they lose activity towards round end?
8. RESA <- Redemption and Saiph?
9. ROCK <- Will they have a decent member base, with Denial coming back?
10. ASS <- Im expecting at least a #7 rank from ASS
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You are right ofcourse. With the fantastic stab by the Denial HC on CT round27 im surprised if CT does anything else but work against denial together with someone else. I for sure would not work with stabbers. And how the HCs acted in the eorc i find it hard to believe they can seek any help from asc aswell. so its only ND left then of the "top" alliances, and they will ofcourse rather play with CT then denial.

that was not really my point with strong, as its pretty obvious denial is very weak politically ( play the round to prove me wrong as this is just a prediction) Denial will have a strong active group of players and might just win on share activity and power, combined with no effort to take them down. but they sure are in for a shitstorm politically and thats why i dont think they will win.


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Alliances that hold grudges are generally the ones that do crap, it would be stupidity for an alliance to do so. Alliances should play the political field, and attack/help whichever they think will increase their chances of a better rank.
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yay, I m not last in a ranking!

btw, where the **** did u go pre last round?! I wasted my invite on u to asc!

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How exactly does CBA's uselessness to PA make him incapable of seeing the same trait in others?
i didnt say he was incapable of seeing traits in people i was merely stressing that he has no right to criticise others. people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
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Might not be in that exact order in the final rankings, but add a random 4th guy to that list and it would be a sweet bp!
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i didnt say he was incapable of seeing traits in people i was merely stressing that he has no right to criticise others. people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones
Whether he has the right to do something or not is irrelevant. If you have a problem with his opinions, address them, not him.



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I predict me teabagging everyone of you and your mothers.

I also predict Ascendancy doing well depending on how well I do.

I also predict me beating walki ( ) this round.



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This one isnt a prediction its more of a fact, Windows NT 2.0 is ****ing garbage, why the **** this computer still uses this OS is beyond me OH MY ****ING GOD
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Next round nobody will win.
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Hey man I said depending on how well I do, if i fail and walki beats me we will win by a landslide again clearly.

SO GUYS THERE IS YOUR MOTIVATION GIEF ME PLANET NAPS AND DONT RAPE ME FROM TICK 72 LIKE EVERY ****ING ROUND THANKS <3
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mz, i think he mentioned Windows NT 2.0 before, and wanted to explain why he bothered bringing it up in the first place.

I must say i did wonder what could be wrong with it when reading that first complaint, so in a way you read my mind Alki, kudos for that

And to justify me posting i will get back ontopic:
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TGV playing? if so, id put em somewhere around place 7-9
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it cant just be the same top ten every round!
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btw, where the **** did u go pre last round?! I wasted my invite on u to asc!
Reallife? :P
And you tell about invites before rounds, not 2-3 rounds after
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Reallife? :P
And you tell about invites before rounds, not 2-3 rounds after
haha! true

but ur still there I think

if u get on I ll sort it somehow
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I also predict me beating walki ( ) this round.
he only played part time last rd spent every weekend off climbing some mountain or skiing but i'll see if i can persuade him to just login once a fortnight to give you a chance
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Walki is a true Ascendancy hero.
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I will end him for good
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Go Alki Go Alki ... :P
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Twelve rounds ago my only significant PA experience was XP whoring
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Denials "success" has been based on giving these new players the right support, encouragement and direction (and tools) complimented by some experienced heads who're more than willing to share their knowledge of PA.
Support like having your leaders' accounts closed? Tools like greasemonkey? Experienced heads like the HC who DIDN'T share their knowledge of a certain exploit, which they claimed to have thought it was legal so really no excuse not to share?

Regardless, I think it's good for PA to have another organized alliance.
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Support like having your leaders' accounts closed? Tools like greasemonkey? Experienced heads like the HC who DIDN'T share their knowledge of a certain exploit, which they claimed to have thought it was legal so really no excuse not to share?

Regardless, I think it's good for PA to have another organized alliance.

No, he means support like starting two wars in two different rounds, and getting completely obliterated in both of them.

If you're aiming to look like a complete jackass, please continue as you're dead on!
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Re: Rnd 29 predictions

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Support like having your leaders' accounts closed? Tools like greasemonkey? Experienced heads like the HC who DIDN'T share their knowledge of a certain exploit, which they claimed to have thought it was legal so really no excuse not to share?
Jesus Christ man, can you all stop crying about this?
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If CT finishes a strong 4th (under 1 mil out of 3rd) or higher, it will be THE alliance to join for rd 30.

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Alliances that hold grudges are generally the ones that do crap, it would be stupidity for an alliance to do so. Alliances should play the political field, and attack/help whichever they think will increase their chances of a better rank.
Its more like if given the option to cooperate with X or Y, you will choose the one that benefits you the most, and an alliance that most likely will shoot you in your back when you need the backup the most, are gonna do far more damage then good. So its smarter to choose a slightly weaker alliance that you can trust.

If i was HCing this round i wouldnt hold any grudges to any alliance, but be carefull in getting involved with the people that lie, decieve and play dishonest politics to get where they want. Denials HCs are pretty much the same ones as round 27 so if there is any bad personal relations they will still be there. Thats why i think its so important to think a bit ahead of ur own nose, and dont just ruin relations for some easy roids.

I for sure never trust people who easily stab their allies to solve a temporarily problem, which i think happens too often in planetarion.
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