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2 Oct 2016, 22:18
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The evil stats guy
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Alternate shipstats
Since paisley's set was the only set up for consideration, i felt it would be prudent to have a backup option. So while paisley finnished his set, i prepared a backed option for this or a future round. Can't hurt to have one
http://speedgame.planetarion.com/man...rn=82541934986
Currently i'm just looking for some feedback on this set
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3 Oct 2016, 08:54
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mz.
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Re: Alternate shipstats
Looks pretty good. Xan Fi, Zik Cr and Ter Bs look a bit too strong for my liking, and the De fleets (especially Etd) a bit weak. I figure the De/Cr/Bs fleets could be fixed in one fell swoop by making Etd De a bit stronger. As for Xan Fi, maybe a slight reduction in Phantom A/C?
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3 Oct 2016, 09:39
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Alternate shipstats
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Looks pretty good. Xan Fi, Zik Cr and Ter Bs look a bit too strong for my liking, and the De fleets (especially Etd) a bit weak. I figure the De/Cr/Bs fleets could be fixed in one fell swoop by making Etd De a bit stronger. As for Xan Fi, maybe a slight reduction in Phantom A/C?
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Xan Fi: It's weaker than it looks. phoenix/vindicator do pretty well and the ghost is very strong. Run the calcs. If you still feel it's strong, i can improve the phoenix a little more.
De fleets: De is indeed a little weaker because it's the only class that targets 4 ships = more forty. Ter De is ok i think. About Etd De you are right. I also felt it was somewhat weak. That's why the ranger got an amor boost. I can see about boosting the Etd armor a bit more. Don't wanna up the dmg anymore.
Ter Bs: I'm mostly unhappy about the Shadow's performance. But don't see a way to fix that. Cat bs is somewhat weaker though because of the ranger prefiring the roach and de only being targetted as a t2 by the tarantula. that's why i left the ter bs values a little higher. maybe up the syren effs and etd cr effs a bit?
Zik Cr: it does well vs de, but vs bs it has no chance. maybe up the bomber a bit to make de based def a bit better?
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3 Oct 2016, 11:13
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mz.
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Re: Alternate shipstats
I did run the calcs. Here's the outcomes, with fleets on the left hitting fleets on the right:
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v Roids > ? Ter De Ter Bs Cat Co Cat Bs Xan Fi Xan Fr Zik Fr Zik Cr Etd De Etd Cr
Ter De Immune Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Immune Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable
Ter Bs Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable Immune Immune Vulnerable Immune
Cat Co Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable
Cat Bs Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable
Xan Fi Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable
Xan Fr Immune Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable
Zik Fr Immune Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable
Zik Cr Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable
Etd De Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Immune Immune Immune Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable
Etd Cr Vulnerable Immune Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable Vulnerable
ie, Ter De cannot roid Ter Bs, but can roid Cat Bs. Attackers in my calcs hit downwards, at planets with 70% of their own value.
Fi: I don't think Phoenix is the ship to improve, to be honest. With Ter already fairly strong, I'd be more inclined to improve other races' anti-Fi. I'm looking at Vindicator, and maybe Thief.
De: The fortiness of De had crossed my mind at some point, but I'd forgotten it by the time I wrote my post. You're right, I think Ter De is fine, and Ranger is already pretty efficient, even against notorious anti-EMP fleets like Ter Bs. However, Co and Fr are in a good spot right now, neither too weak nor too strong. Improving Etd De by making it stronger against those Co and/or Fr doesn't solve the problem, just moves it. Not really sure what to do.
Cr/Bs: Bomber doesn't exist, I assume you mean Spectre? Both Xan fleets build it, so there'll be quite a bit of it around. I think part of the problem with Ter Bs is mostly in its defensive strength, as they naturally tend towards building the forty De ships for defense. I figure the strength of Ter Bs is closely tied to the weakness of Cr. And since both those fleets use good init against De and bad init against Bs, teamups can't save Cr. This is perhaps the only place where I'd be inclined to change inits, allowing the Zik fleet to do well against Bs (using a good init kill ship, ensuring they don't steal into Bs) and Etd against De (using their EMP ship).
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3 Oct 2016, 11:15
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Re: Alternate shipstats
Do you consider this set ofensive, defensive or something in the middle?
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3 Oct 2016, 11:31
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Alternate shipstats
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Originally Posted by fortran
Do you consider this set ofensive, defensive or something in the middle?
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I would say between offensive and the middle. Paisley's set is defi more offensive than this one
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3 Oct 2016, 12:05
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Alternate shipstats
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Fi: I don't think Phoenix is the ship to improve, to be honest. With Ter already fairly strong, I'd be more inclined to improve other races' anti-Fi. I'm looking at Vindicator, and maybe Thief.
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Vindicator is already quite strong if you ask me. I can try the thief if it doesn't impact the realtionship with the corsair too much. Corsair is already rather weak vs zik fr.
Battle calcs i used to balance the loss ratio's (assuming planet get's some defence): http://speedgame.planetarion.com/bca...5pca7wogahxwtx
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
De: The fortiness of De had crossed my mind at some point, but I'd forgotten it by the time I wrote my post. You're right, I think Ter De is fine, and Ranger is already pretty efficient, even against notorious anti-EMP fleets like Ter Bs. However, Co and Fr are in a good spot right now, neither too weak nor too strong. Improving Etd De by making it stronger against those Co and/or Fr doesn't solve the problem, just moves it. Not really sure what to do.
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Only thing i can see is improve the ranger armor a little more. Will make sure that the emp ships don't die that fast giving it a bit more longevity in battle while not impacting the co/fr relationship
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Cr/Bs: Bomber doesn't exist, I assume you mean Spectre? Both Xan fleets build it, so there'll be quite a bit of it around. I think part of the problem with Ter Bs is mostly in its defensive strength, as they naturally tend towards building the forty De ships for defense. I figure the strength of Ter Bs is closely tied to the weakness of Cr. And since both those fleets use good init against De and bad init against Bs, teamups can't save Cr. This is perhaps the only place where I'd be inclined to change inits, allowing the Zik fleet to do well against Bs (using a good init kill ship, ensuring they don't steal into Bs) and Etd against De (using their EMP ship).
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I like this idea, thanks
I'll have to play with the steal effs a lil to ensure that it still does ok vs ter de, but shouldn't be an issue
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3 Oct 2016, 18:03
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Re: Alternate shipstats
Tbh, im ok with any stats...
If paisley stats comes, im just going to have a nice troll round!
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3 Oct 2016, 19:15
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Re: Alternate shipstats
im not going to slate these stats if the players want more of the same boring stats round in round out... have fun
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3 Oct 2016, 19:47
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Re: Alternate shipstats
I'm fine with Paisley's stats.
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3 Oct 2016, 23:47
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Re: Alternate shipstats
The feeling I get is the same from previous rounds. The best strat seems to go scanner. But I think alliance fleet is more responsible for that expectation than stats.
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3 Oct 2016, 23:55
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mz.
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Re: Alternate shipstats
These stats are middle-of-the-road (boring?) but balanced. Paisley's stats are interesting (weird?) but unbalanced.
Personally, I don't think the stats have much impact on whether a round is enjoyable or not. Given that, I prefer balance.
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4 Oct 2016, 09:13
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Re: Alternate shipstats
I like the idea of playing Paisley's stats but I really never enjoyed defending.
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4 Oct 2016, 15:59
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Alternate shipstats
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Fi: I don't think Phoenix is the ship to improve, to be honest. With Ter already fairly strong, I'd be more inclined to improve other races' anti-Fi. I'm looking at Vindicator, and maybe Thief.
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The revenant now does ok vs xan fi. Mostly cause of a change to make etd stronger (see point below)
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
De: The fortiness of De had crossed my mind at some point, but I'd forgotten it by the time I wrote my post. You're right, I think Ter De is fine, and Ranger is already pretty efficient, even against notorious anti-EMP fleets like Ter Bs. However, Co and Fr are in a good spot right now, neither too weak nor too strong. Improving Etd De by making it stronger against those Co and/or Fr doesn't solve the problem, just moves it. Not really sure what to do.
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I made etd a bit stronger by having the revenant fire t2 on de. does alot less dmg now vs etd, while doing the same dmg to ter. should make it more playable.
downside is that the change to the revenant forced me to redo fi/co ac/dc. fi seems to do alot of dmg now, but so do the anti fi ships. should even out, just looks messy
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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Cr/Bs: Bomber doesn't exist, I assume you mean Spectre? Both Xan fleets build it, so there'll be quite a bit of it around. I think part of the problem with Ter Bs is mostly in its defensive strength, as they naturally tend towards building the forty De ships for defense. I figure the strength of Ter Bs is closely tied to the weakness of Cr. And since both those fleets use good init against De and bad init against Bs, teamups can't save Cr. This is perhaps the only place where I'd be inclined to change inits, allowing the Zik fleet to do well against Bs (using a good init kill ship, ensuring they don't steal into Bs) and Etd against De (using their EMP ship).
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this change wasn't as simple as i had expected. i managed to turn around the cr targetting. but was foced to change the spectre to a bs ship to not mess up the balance between zik & xan
hope the changes improve the set. it feels a bit better balanced to me than before
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4 Oct 2016, 22:10
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mz.
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Re: Alternate shipstats
All but 2 of my calcs have the same land/recall outcome as before.
The first difference is that Zik Cr can no longer roid Ter De, but still can't roid Ter Bs. The calc vs Bs looks good if you assume Ter will pick Syren as anti-Bs, but Drake is actually the better ship. Both options are out-inited by both Bs fleets, anyway, but the Drake has the additional bonus of being really good against Zik Cr. That means Ter Bs is still only vulnerable to Cat, itself and Xan Fi. Another downside is that Xan now needs Siege before they get anti-Cr.
I don't think the impact the change had not Zik Cr vs Ter De was bad, though. Ter De was one of the weaker fleets, and this has made them nicely balanced.
What would happen if Syren was just way better against Bs? Like init 7, maybe even 6? It'd make Ter Bs immune to itself, while Ter De would have to stick with Drake. That in turn makes Ter Bs vulnerable to Zik Cr. It would also make Cat Bs even better against Ter Bs because they can fire at Syren with T1.
The second difference is that Xan Fi can now roid Xan Fi. This is probably because of the change in Effs, because switching Revenant anti-Fi from T2 to T1 obviously can't make the calc worse for defenders. Beyond that, you're right, the new Fi effs look weirdly high, but all other calcs come out the same way as they did before.
Overall, I don't think the change made Xan Fi weaker. Maybe raising the Banshee's Cost and ERes by 10% might do the trick? Or 5% on both Xan Fi? That might flip the calc for Xan Fr attacking Xan Fi from a recall to a land.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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5 Oct 2016, 04:26
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Alternate shipstats
Xan fi was always able to roid xan fi (assuming they don't build ghost which i personally would since it owns). but if they descide not to build the ghost, they atleast now have a fighting chance vs fi. Xan fi still can't roid xan fr. overall i think xan fi looks good, raising the cost might actually make it too weak.
The syren is a little weaker than i like atm yes. Maybe a small nerf upwards so more people will build it. the biggest advantage of the syren is that usually less anti cr ships are produced than anti de ships making it easier to defend with it. But not too much or ter bs will be weaker. Atm ter de outperforms ter bs already slightly in effs.
Biggest advantages of the changes are the cr teamup is stronger & the overall eff balance looks better (which sadly isn't visible in your overview since it doesn't mention degree's of vulnerable)
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5 Oct 2016, 05:42
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Re: Alternate shipstats
The beta is a terrible test of stats. Shitty people, fast ticks, it simply doesn't work.
I "played" for a while after this last reset. Xan vs Xan is messy as usual, but with only two planets (both Xan) its pretty hard to take anything away from the results. Whore Banshees and hang tough, or whore Ghosts and swap roids. Myself and one other Terran planet started at the reset. I sent three fleets, no combat, nothing.
Add another Xan planent and the lone Cath. EMP % still wins despite the late start, but it has to.
1 vs 1 it seems ok. I burned my bonuses before tick start and went Corp. Considering the other Xan I had to deal with, I built ships based on their value rather than the Cath catching up. That player went FR, and I played through with building Banshee. Lots of them died, and we played roid-swap.
It would have been good to have a Terran in the mix, but I think these stats are overall hugely offensive. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Proper alliances will likely fort Terran with some Cath support.
Xan vs Terran roidswap round, unless I'm mistaken.
Oh, and as the MOTD says, it isn't a speedgame. Thanks for taking notice of that kids.
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5 Oct 2016, 07:54
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Re: Alternate shipstats
I'd test paisleys stat as they're highly offencive. To see how allyfleet does in a round with em
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5 Oct 2016, 14:41
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Re: Alternate shipstats
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Originally Posted by Buly
I'd test paisleys stat as they're highly offencive. To see how allyfleet does in a round with em
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Please.... Stop thinking allie fleet will be nullified with retard stats
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5 Oct 2016, 15:31
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Re: Alternate shipstats
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The beta is a terrible test of stats. Shitty people, fast ticks, it simply doesn't work.
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Sounds like you're in the wrong thread. This thread is about the stats on the speedgame server.
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5 Oct 2016, 16:13
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mz.
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Re: Alternate shipstats
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which sadly isn't visible in your overview since it doesn't mention degree's of vulnerable
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I have more detailed information, but it's a lot of hassle to condense it into a form that's suitable for mass-consumption. The immune/vulnerable summary is simply 'given these 2 fleets, would the one ever bother attacking the other?'. Here's the next level of output, and it's already a ridiculous amount of scrolling:
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* Ter De
** Ter De vs Ter De
Ter De ( -46422) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Wyvern ( -34808) = Recall
Ter De ( -46422) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Wyvern ( -34808) = Recall
Ter De is immune to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Ter Bs
Ter De (-140148) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Wyvern ( -9986) = Recall
Ter De (-140148) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Wyvern ( -9527) = Recall
Ter Bs is immune to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Cat Co
Ter De ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Viper ( -91376) = Land
Ter De ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Viper (-114170) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Cat Bs
Ter De ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Tarantula ( -37977) = Land
Ter De ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Tarantula ( -37891) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Xan Fi
Ter De ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Revenant ( -69997) = Land
Ter De ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Revenant ( -69997) = Land
Xan Fi is vulnerable to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Xan Fr
Ter De ( -18731) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Shadow (-119526) = Land
Ter De ( -72913) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Shadow (-125028) = Recall
Xan Fr is immune to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Zik Fr
Ter De (-114607) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Buccaneer ( -73786) = Recall
Ter De (-114607) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Buccaneer ( -75589) = Recall
Zik Fr is immune to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Zik Cr
Ter De (-126502) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Pirate ( -70990) = Recall
Ter De (-177431) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Pirate ( -61547) = Recall
Zik Cr is immune to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Etd De
Ter De ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Guardian ( -69991) = Land
Ter De ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Guardian ( -69991) = Land
Etd De is vulnerable to Ter De!
** Ter De vs Etd Cr
Ter De ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Guardian ( -33246) = Land
Ter De ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Guardian ( -29200) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Ter De!
* Ter Bs
** Ter Bs vs Ter De
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Drake ( -90871) = Land
Ter Bs ( -32864) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Drake (-113573) = Land
Ter De is vulnerable to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Ter Bs
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Drake ( -46666) = Land
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Drake ( -93339) = Land
Ter Bs is vulnerable to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Cat Co
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Scarab ( -69979) = Land
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Scarab ( -69979) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Cat Bs
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Scarab ( -46669) = Land
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Scarab ( -46669) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Xan Fi
Ter Bs ( -44914) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Wraith ( -26007) = Recall
Ter Bs ( -44914) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Wraith ( -26007) = Recall
Xan Fi is immune to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Xan Fr
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Shadow (-144769) = Land
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Shadow (-279988) = Land
Xan Fr is vulnerable to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Zik Fr
Ter Bs (-176625) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Buccaneer (-109464) = Recall
Ter Bs (-176625) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Buccaneer (-146347) = Recall
Zik Fr is immune to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Zik Cr
Ter Bs (-102174) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Rogue ( -33322) = Recall
Ter Bs (-102174) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Rogue ( -33263) = Recall
Zik Cr is immune to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Etd De
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Ranger ( -91268) = Land
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Ranger ( -77681) = Land
Etd De is vulnerable to Ter Bs!
** Ter Bs vs Etd Cr
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Ranger ( -34996) = Land
Ter Bs ( -79986) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Tycoon ( -30626) = Recall
Ter Bs ( -79986) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Ranger+Tycoon ( -59564) = Recall
Ter Bs ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Ranger (-104535) = Land
Ter Bs ( -79986) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Tycoon ( -48903) = Recall
Ter Bs ( -79986) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Ranger+Tycoon (-145001) = Recall
Etd Cr is immune to Ter Bs!
* Cat Co
** Cat Co vs Ter De
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Pegasus ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( -51223) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Pegasus ( +10244) = Recall
Ter De is immune to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Ter Bs
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Pegasus ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Pegasus ( +0) = Land
Ter Bs is vulnerable to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Cat Co
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Spider ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Spider ( +0) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Cat Bs
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Spider ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Spider ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Xan Fi
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Banshee ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Banshee ( +0) = Land
Xan Fi is vulnerable to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Xan Fr
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Banshee ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Banshee ( +0) = Land
Xan Fr is vulnerable to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Zik Fr
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Cutlass ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Cutlass ( +0) = Land
Zik Fr is vulnerable to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Zik Cr
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Cutlass ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Cutlass ( +0) = Land
Zik Cr is vulnerable to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Etd De
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Recluse ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( -46703) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Recluse ( +9340) = Recall
Etd De is immune to Cat Co!
** Cat Co vs Etd Cr
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Recluse ( +0) = Land
Cat Co ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Recluse ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Cat Co!
* Cat Bs
** Cat Bs vs Ter De
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Drake ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( -3481) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Drake ( +696) = Land
Ter De is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Ter Bs
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Drake ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Drake ( +0) = Land
Ter Bs is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Cat Co
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Scarab ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Scarab ( +0) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Cat Bs
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Scarab ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Scarab ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Xan Fi
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Wraith ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Wraith ( +0) = Land
Xan Fi is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Xan Fr
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Shadow ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Shadow ( +0) = Land
Xan Fr is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Zik Fr
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Buccaneer ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( -18100) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Buccaneer ( +3620) = Recall
Zik Fr is immune to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Zik Cr
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Rogue ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Rogue ( +0) = Land
Zik Cr is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Etd De
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Ranger ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Ranger ( +0) = Land
Etd De is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
** Cat Bs vs Etd Cr
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Ranger ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Tycoon ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Ranger+Tycoon ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Ranger ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Tycoon ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Ranger+Tycoon ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Cat Bs!
* Xan Fi
** Xan Fi vs Ter De
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Phoenix ( -70002) = Land
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Phoenix ( -70002) = Land
Ter De is vulnerable to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Ter Bs
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Phoenix ( -46676) = Land
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Phoenix ( -46676) = Land
Ter Bs is vulnerable to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Cat Co
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Beetle ( -54033) = Land
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Beetle ( -54292) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Cat Bs
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Beetle ( -46675) = Land
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Beetle ( -46675) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Xan Fi
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Revenant ( -69997) = Land
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Revenant ( -69997) = Land
Xan Fi is vulnerable to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Xan Fr
Xan Fi (-220373) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Ghost ( -65680) = Recall
Xan Fi (-220373) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Ghost ( -54185) = Recall
Xan Fr is immune to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Zik Fr
Xan Fi ( -5720) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Thief (-125230) = Land
Xan Fi (-148066) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Thief ( -63133) = Recall
Zik Fr is immune to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Zik Cr
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Thief ( -35000) = Land
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Thief ( -35000) = Land
Zik Cr is vulnerable to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Etd De
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Vindicator ( -70001) = Land
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Vindicator ( -70001) = Land
Etd De is vulnerable to Xan Fi!
** Xan Fi vs Etd Cr
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Vindicator ( -35000) = Land
Xan Fi ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Vindicator ( -35000) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Xan Fi!
* Xan Fr
** Xan Fr vs Ter De
Xan Fr (-162871) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Pegasus ( -54784) = Recall
Xan Fr (-112581) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Wyvern ( -47467) = Recall
Xan Fr (-274842) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Pegasus+Wyvern ( -40190) = Recall
Xan Fr (-162871) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Pegasus ( -53300) = Recall
Xan Fr (-112581) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Wyvern ( -47467) = Recall
Xan Fr (-274842) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Pegasus+Wyvern ( -39758) = Recall
Ter De is immune to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Ter Bs
Xan Fr ( -41816) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Pegasus ( -38308) = Recall
Xan Fr (-339792) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Wyvern ( -27916) = Recall
Xan Fr (-380800) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Pegasus+Wyvern ( -9239) = Recall
Xan Fr ( -41816) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Pegasus ( -84975) = Recall
Xan Fr (-339792) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Wyvern ( -26789) = Recall
Xan Fr (-380800) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Pegasus+Wyvern ( -8281) = Recall
Ter Bs is immune to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Cat Co
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Spider ( -70001) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Spider ( -70001) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Cat Bs
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Spider ( -46674) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Roach (-103333) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Spider+Roach (-139240) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Spider ( -46674) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Roach (-133863) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Spider+Roach (-139103) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Xan Fi
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Phantom ( -91335) = Land
Xan Fr ( -56637) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Phantom (-177563) = Recall
Xan Fi is immune to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Xan Fr
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Phantom ( -46668) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Phantom ( -93336) = Land
Xan Fr is vulnerable to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Zik Fr
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Corsair ( -46668) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Clipper ( -46664) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Corsair+Clipper ( -93332) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Corsair ( -93335) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Clipper ( -46664) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Corsair+Clipper (-139999) = Land
Zik Fr is vulnerable to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Zik Cr
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Clipper ( -70000) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Clipper ( -70000) = Land
Zik Cr is vulnerable to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Etd De
Xan Fr ( -85365) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Recluse ( -83631) = Recall
Xan Fr (-120282) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Recluse ( -87727) = Recall
Etd De is immune to Xan Fr!
** Xan Fr vs Etd Cr
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Recluse ( -69997) = Land
Xan Fr ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Recluse (-104994) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Xan Fr!
* Zik Fr
** Zik Fr vs Ter De
Zik Fr ( -62994) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Pegasus ( -87338) = Recall
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Wyvern ( -69984) = Land
Zik Fr ( -98164) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Pegasus+Wyvern (-104621) = Recall
Zik Fr ( -88850) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Pegasus ( -80476) = Recall
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Wyvern ( -69984) = Land
Zik Fr (-112213) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Pegasus+Wyvern (-100890) = Recall
Ter De is immune to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Ter Bs
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Pegasus ( -46672) = Land
Zik Fr ( -80261) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Wyvern (-137106) = Recall
Zik Fr (-116184) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Pegasus+Wyvern (-129921) = Recall
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Pegasus ( -93339) = Land
Zik Fr (-128555) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Wyvern (-125698) = Recall
Zik Fr (-164468) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Pegasus+Wyvern (-118540) = Recall
Ter Bs is immune to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Cat Co
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Spider ( -70001) = Land
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Spider ( -70001) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Cat Bs
Zik Fr ( +1) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Spider ( -46674) = Land
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Roach (-103333) = Land
Zik Fr ( +1) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Spider+Roach (-136188) = Land
Zik Fr ( +1) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Spider ( -46674) = Land
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Roach (-125011) = Land
Zik Fr ( +1) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Spider+Roach (-136039) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Xan Fi
Zik Fr (-146389) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Phantom ( -62056) = Recall
Zik Fr ( -78573) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Phantom (-154802) = Recall
Xan Fi is immune to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Xan Fr
Zik Fr ( -74788) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Phantom ( -31709) = Recall
Zik Fr ( -74782) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Phantom ( -78377) = Recall
Xan Fr is immune to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Zik Fr
Zik Fr ( +5) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Corsair ( -46668) = Land
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Clipper ( -46664) = Land
Zik Fr ( +5) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Corsair+Clipper ( -93332) = Land
Zik Fr ( +10) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Corsair ( -93335) = Land
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Clipper ( -46664) = Land
Zik Fr ( +10) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Corsair+Clipper (-139999) = Land
Zik Fr is vulnerable to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Zik Cr
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Clipper ( -70000) = Land
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Clipper ( -70000) = Land
Zik Cr is vulnerable to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Etd De
Zik Fr ( -81755) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Recluse ( -74989) = Recall
Zik Fr (-108973) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Recluse ( -79596) = Recall
Etd De is immune to Zik Fr!
** Zik Fr vs Etd Cr
Zik Fr ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Recluse ( -69997) = Land
Zik Fr ( -4313) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Recluse ( -99302) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Zik Fr!
* Zik Cr
** Zik Cr vs Ter De
Zik Cr (-113198) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Drake ( -68230) = Recall
Zik Cr (-113182) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Drake (-169279) = Recall
Ter De is immune to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Ter Bs
Zik Cr ( -58103) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Drake ( -35042) = Recall
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Dragon ( -63345) = Land
Zik Cr ( -58103) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Drake+Dragon ( -98388) = Recall
Zik Cr ( -58103) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Drake ( -81714) = Recall
Zik Cr ( -52346) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Dragon ( -77109) = Recall
Zik Cr (-110452) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Drake+Dragon (-158823) = Recall
Ter Bs is immune to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Cat Co
Zik Cr ( +19) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Scarab ( -69979) = Land
Zik Cr ( +19) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Scarab ( -69979) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Cat Bs
Zik Cr ( +22) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Scarab ( -46669) = Land
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Tarantula ( -25862) = Land
Zik Cr ( +8) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Scarab+Tarantula( -30229) = Land
Zik Cr ( +22) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Scarab ( -46669) = Land
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Tarantula ( -25815) = Land
Zik Cr ( +8) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Scarab+Tarantula( -30184) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Xan Fi
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Spectre ( -34992) = Land
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Spectre ( -34992) = Land
Xan Fi is vulnerable to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Xan Fr
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Spectre ( -46656) = Land
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Spectre ( -46656) = Land
Xan Fr is vulnerable to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Zik Fr
Zik Cr ( +13) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Clipper ( -46664) = Land
Zik Cr ( +13) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Clipper ( -46664) = Land
Zik Fr is vulnerable to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Zik Cr
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Clipper ( -70000) = Land
Zik Cr ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Clipper ( -70000) = Land
Zik Cr is vulnerable to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Etd De
Zik Cr ( +22) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Ranger ( -91268) = Land
Zik Cr ( +24) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Ranger (-169320) = Land
Etd De is vulnerable to Zik Cr!
** Zik Cr vs Etd Cr
Zik Cr ( +7) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Ranger ( -34996) = Land
Zik Cr ( +30) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Ranger (-104994) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Zik Cr!
* Etd De
** Etd De vs Ter De
Etd De ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Wyvern ( +0) = Land
Etd De ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Wyvern ( +0) = Land
Ter De is vulnerable to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Ter Bs
Etd De ( -1760) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Wyvern ( +352) = Land
Etd De ( -34359) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Wyvern ( +6871) = Recall
Ter Bs is immune to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Cat Co
Etd De ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Viper ( -91376) = Land
Etd De ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Viper (-127933) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Cat Bs
Etd De ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Tarantula ( +0) = Land
Etd De ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Tarantula ( +0) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Xan Fi
Etd De ( -70998) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Revenant ( -55797) = Recall
Etd De ( -70998) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Revenant ( -55797) = Recall
Xan Fi is immune to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Xan Fr
Etd De (-130413) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Shadow ( -92024) = Recall
Etd De (-130413) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Shadow (-107675) = Recall
Xan Fr is immune to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Zik Fr
Etd De (-118262) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Buccaneer ( -91501) = Recall
Etd De (-118262) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Buccaneer ( -93647) = Recall
Zik Fr is immune to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Zik Cr
Etd De ( -23859) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Pirate ( +4817) = Recall
Etd De (-114663) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Pirate ( +22981) = Recall
Zik Cr is immune to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Etd De
Etd De ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Guardian ( +0) = Land
Etd De ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Guardian ( +0) = Land
Etd De is vulnerable to Etd De!
** Etd De vs Etd Cr
Etd De ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Guardian ( +0) = Land
Etd De ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Guardian ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Etd De!
* Etd Cr
** Etd Cr vs Ter De
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with unflakked Drake ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Ter De defending with flakked Drake ( +0) = Land
Ter De is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Ter Bs
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Drake ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( -75667) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Dragon ( -48212) = Recall
Etd Cr ( -75667) attacking Ter Bs defending with unflakked Drake+Dragon ( -48212) = Recall
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Drake ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( -75667) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Dragon ( -53429) = Recall
Etd Cr ( -75667) attacking Ter Bs defending with flakked Drake+Dragon ( -53429) = Recall
Ter Bs is immune to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Cat Co
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with unflakked Scarab ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Co defending with flakked Scarab ( +0) = Land
Cat Co is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Cat Bs
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Scarab ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Tarantula ( -29291) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with unflakked Scarab+Tarantula( -29291) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Scarab ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Tarantula ( -29224) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Cat Bs defending with flakked Scarab+Tarantula( -29224) = Land
Cat Bs is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Xan Fi
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with unflakked Spectre ( -34992) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Xan Fi defending with flakked Spectre ( -34992) = Land
Xan Fi is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Xan Fr
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with unflakked Spectre ( -46656) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Xan Fr defending with flakked Spectre ( -46656) = Land
Xan Fr is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Zik Fr
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with unflakked Clipper ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Zik Fr defending with flakked Clipper ( +0) = Land
Zik Fr is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Zik Cr
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with unflakked Clipper ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Zik Cr defending with flakked Clipper ( +0) = Land
Zik Cr is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Etd De
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with unflakked Ranger ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Etd De defending with flakked Ranger ( +0) = Land
Etd De is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
** Etd Cr vs Etd Cr
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with unflakked Ranger ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr ( +0) attacking Etd Cr defending with flakked Ranger ( +0) = Land
Etd Cr is vulnerable to Etd Cr!
I also have a bcalc for each of those 256 battles, but that's really too much data to post. :P
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Alternate shipstats
1 last change to this set:
Syren: Improved the ship. It's now a bit more efficient than the drake. Plus generally speaking the ratio of de/Cr firing ships is close to 2/1 than 1/1. So here the syren can gain an advantage aswell.
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The evil stats guy
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Re: Alternate shipstats
Ok since the current round is comming to an end i descided to have a new look at the set. I ended up making the following changes:
Nerfed Xan Fi further
Small nerf to Xan Fr
Fix a small init mistake: Tycoon & spectre init +1 (Thanks for pointing it out sandvold)
Spectre/tycoon were improved to compensate for the init changes
Think the set is done now. Any last suggestions/comments on it?
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Registered User
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Re: Alternate shipstats
Raise xan fi E/r a little please, 190% eff is gross
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Valle is my hero
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Re: Alternate shipstats
Please Nerf xan until they are completely unplayable. Thanks.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Re: Alternate shipstats
Ran them through mzCalc:
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Roids: Ter De Ter Ba Cat Co Cat Ba Xan Fi Xan Fr Zik Fr Zik Cr Etd De Etd Cr
Ter De Imm( 3.79) Imm(14.33) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 4.67) Imm( 9.49) Imm(15.71) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00)
Ter Ba Vuln( 0.47) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 3.76) Vuln( 0.00) Imm(14.68) Imm( 9.11) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 6.71)
Cat Co Imm( 6.94) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 6.33) Vuln( 0.00)
Cat Ba Vuln( 0.47) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 2.45) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00)
Xan Fi Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm(20.28) Imm(14.59) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00)
Xan Fr Imm(26.75) Imm(40.33) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 1.10) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 9.89) Vuln( 0.00)
Zik Fr Imm( 9.04) Imm(13.54) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm(12.73) Imm( 6.47) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 8.96) Vuln( 0.00)
Zik Cr Imm( 9.48) Imm( 8.01) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00)
Etd De Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 4.68) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 5.80) Imm(10.70) Imm( 9.62) Imm(15.62) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00)
Etd Cr Vuln( 0.00) Imm( 6.30) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00) Vuln( 0.00)
The vulnerability score is new since v1.1.0 (released just now). They are an indication of how immune the defender is. When above 1.0, the higher the score, the more immune the target is. When below 1.0, the lower the score, the harder such an inc is to cover by defenders.
(Implementation detail: vulnerability score = [actual attacker losses] / [the maximum the attacker may lose before mzCalc decides the attack is not launchable]. For example, 3.00 means the attacker loses 3 times more than is acceptable, while 0.00 means the attacker loses nothing. Scores for attackers against Cat are of course always 0.00, I haven't yet figured out a good way to quantify vulnerability to EMP.)
Code:
Fleet Attack Defense
Ter De 5 4
Ter Bs 7 4
Cat Co 8 0
Cat Ba 8 0
Xan Fi 7 4
Xan Fr 5 4
Zik Fr 6 5
Zik Cr 7 3
Etd De 4 3
Etd Cr 9 0
Attack score is number of fleets that are vulnerable to this fleet, defense score is number of attackers this fleet is immune to. EMP fleets getting a 0 defense score is a quirk that I haven't figured out how to fix yet.
Changes since the last set I ran are minimal. No vulnerable/immune switches, and only very minor differences in the vulnerability scores.
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Last edited by Mzyxptlk; 2 Dec 2016 at 22:55.
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