How many have gone into vacation mode?

[hAl]

As I cannot look into the game anymore I wonder how many NaR people are actually going into vacation mode. Masses or just a few ?

hAl


--
Mayby t1000 is a good time for a reset?

[Hurragutten]

about 6 planets

[DarkAngel]

Originally posted by Hurragutten
about 6 planets

*600

[General Martok]

Originally posted by Hurragutten
about 6 planets

My gal alone beats that.... Heared entire Nar is in vacationmode, or about to, except for the few who like to get incoming ofc, or are in a WEET gal...

[RexDrax]

Well this is intersting to say the least. The question is what happens now? Will the creators interfer and have a reset so that we can all start from scratch, or will the HC's, not just WEET but VOM+Nahr+vortex, get together and try to work something out. If nothing happens then PA might as well shut down till r10 is ready.

Anyone got suggestions or insights that I am missing?

[Mit]

Originally posted by hAl
As I cannot look into the game anymore I wonder how many NaR people are actually going into vacation mode. Masses or just a few ?

Using the PA Tools Database,

SELECT * FROM Planets WHERE ScoreC = 0 AND RoidC = 0;

i.e. no roid and score change, its a simple check - returns 128 planets that have not changed AT ALL. i.e. in vac / closed / waiting to be deleted.

Thats no change since midnight BST thou. I'll check again tomorrow if ur interested.

[RexDrax]

Originally posted by Mit
Using the PA Tools Database,

SELECT * FROM Planets WHERE ScoreC = 0 AND RoidC = 0;

i.e. no roid and score change, its a simple check - returns 128 planets that have not changed AT ALL. i.e. in vac / closed / waiting to be deleted.

Thats no change since midnight BST thou. I'll check again tomorrow if ur interested.

Please do.

[Mit]

Originally posted by RexDrax
Please do.

ok, if i forget - come prod me in #planetarion :-)

[DrunkenViking]

I've been in vacation mode since august...
But then again i'm a ****ty player with no importance.

[Mr. Juggalo]

a complete reset, and maybe a shuffle to make it random... would be good

[L0n3w0lf]

all nar members have been told to go in vac mode and will probley stay in vac mode till WEET split or the round ends. ppl are FK'ing fed up with WEET farming them everynight, morning and day.
i agree with this and went in vac mode.

if you are fed up with this WEET problem do the same so PA can become a fun game again and not one sided rubbish

[Mit]

Originally posted by L0n3w0lf
all nar members have been told to go in vac mode and will probley stay in vac mode till WEET split or the round ends. ppl are FK'ing fed up with WEET farming them everynight, morning and day.
i agree with this and went in vac mode.

heh, wonderful, that means us VoM are gonna get farmed even more... trust me, NAR don't know what being farmed is

[AliasX]

Well I am NoS and I am proud to say I haven't entered vacation mode! I will fight to the bitter end with every ship I can get!

[Mit]

Originally posted by L0n3w0lf
all nar members have been told to go in vac mode and will probley stay in vac mode till WEET split or the round ends. ppl are FK'ing fed up with WEET farming them everynight, morning and day.
i agree with this and went in vac mode.

if you are fed up with this WEET problem do the same so PA can become a fun game again and not one sided rubbish

btw, as far as i've heard, WEET gals are so mixed, likelyhood of them splitting and fighting between each other is limited. i don't know whether this was one of the HCs idiotic ideas or a strategic ploy or not... but at the end of the day, this powerblocking crap has wreaked the game AGAIN.

[HOPupNdown]

a couple of NaR n00bs in my random gal went vac mod

not that i really knew any of them or gave a flying fk ,
it just makes me sick to see how low you can get

[Treveler]

Hehe this realy makes me laugh. I thought the VoM players going into vac mode was lame, but that I could somewhat understand.

We played the game hopeing we would have a chanse. We soon realised that we didn`t.

NaR on the other side knew that WeeT would soon turn against them and they knew as time went on that VoM would get weaker and weaker. The result was that the split came when Weet knew that VoM could not make a difference in the war vs NaR and when they knew they would win. Nar knew this day would come, but they were to spineless to do something about it when they could have a chanse to fight back.

Well well, poor litle NaR!

[L0n3w0lf]

Originally posted by HOPupNdown
a couple of NaR n00bs in my random gal went vac mod

not that i really knew any of them or gave a flying fk ,
it just makes me sick to see how low you can get

not as low as WEET for attacking any planet with more than 100 roids.

not as low as WEET for bashing planets with wave attacks.

[Treveler]

Originally posted by L0n3w0lf
not as low as WEET for attacking any planet with more than 100 roids.

not as low as WEET for bashing planets with wave attacks.

The same thig NaR did two weeks ago?

[Mit]

Originally posted by L0n3w0lf
not as low as WEET for attacking any planet with more than 100 roids.

not as low as WEET for bashing planets with wave attacks.

more than 100... heh, we're being waved DAILY including the members of the galaxy with less than 100 roids, its stupid. I've heard of desperate for roids, but this is INSANE.

[Treveler]

Originally posted by Mit
more than 100... heh, we're being waved DAILY including the members of the galaxy with less than 100 roids, its stupid. I've heard of desperate for roids, but this is INSANE.

Again, if you’re NaR, you probably did the same this 2 weeks ago.

I really hope weet will stay allied. That will probably, when the fat lady sings, turn out to be the only respectful decision made the entire round. Stagnation or not.

[Mit]

I'm VoM, still being attacked badly day after day, i'm just about given up trying to get def for the insane amounts of inc.

I doubt WEET would want to break out, they 'might' face some competion and have to FIGHT for the win. That one they gained through 'strategical' playing? or just plain over powering...

[Bobzeh]

Powerblocking has, and will continue, to spoil PA. Everyone will be optimistic of a good round, a side will get on top, everyone will start moaning. Any change sometime soon?

[Mit]

Originally posted by Bobzeh
Powerblocking has, and will continue, to spoil PA. Everyone will be optimistic of a good round, a side will get on top, everyone will start moaning. Any change sometime soon?

unfortunately the only way things will change, is if ALL alliance stuff is built into the game, somehow blocking lots of free defending and forcing u to work with ur allies somehow. I dunno really, not thought about it. But powerblocking does spoil things, it is something that should be abolished, that is up to the HCs of all the alliances thou, and they want their alliance to do best, thus grouping up blah blah.

/me mumbles at all the alliance HCs, whats wrong with fighting it out alone?

[Bobzeh]

Originally posted by Mit
unfortunately the only way things will change, is if ALL alliance stuff is built into the game, somehow blocking lots of free defending and forcing u to work with ur allies somehow. I dunno really, not thought about it. But powerblocking does spoil things, it is something that should be abolished, that is up to the HCs of all the alliances thou, and they want their alliance to do best, thus grouping up blah blah.

/me mumbles at all the alliance HCs, whats wrong with fighting it out alone?

Strong functioning alliances fighting one another would indeed lead to a more interesting and entertaining round. NAP's will always come into play though, especially with mixed galaxies.

The grass is always greener on the other side.

[L0n3w0lf]

Originally posted by Mit
/me mumbles at all the alliance HCs, whats wrong with fighting it out alone?

most are cowards and have no skills so use powerblocks to make them look braver and brainer.

shame that this forces other allainces to do the same cause they know if they stood alone they would get FK'ed

the only way to make this game fun and fair is for all allainces to make an agreement that no allaince allies or naps.

but tbh we got more chance of that happening as all allainces disbanding and just have galaxy vs galaxy or cluster vs cluster or para vs para.

which would be FUN!!

[Treveler]

Originally posted by Mit
I'm VoM, still being attacked badly day after day, i'm just about given up trying to get def for the insane amounts of inc.

I doubt WEET would want to break out, they 'might' face some competion and have to FIGHT for the win. That one they gained through 'strategical' playing? or just plain over powering...

Then your on mu side!

But if L0n3w0lf is in fact NaR, I fint it hard to find any empathy towards that block.

Nar knew this day would come, and I would suspect they would have some kind of plan or strategy besides vac mode. Its ohhhh sooooo lame.

This :e_chick: dont even come close to explain there behavior.

NaR are :e_chick: :e_chick: :e_chick: `s

[Bobzeh]

Originally posted by Treveler
Nar knew this day would come, and I would suspect they would have some kind of plan or strategy besides vac mode. Its ohhhh sooooo lame.

Schools have broken up for Easter holidays now.

[L0n3w0lf]

Originally posted by Treveler

thats funny coming from a member of the vvomm group or did you jump sides when you came out of your vac mode

[Treveler]

Originally posted by Bobzeh
Schools have broken up for Easter holidays now.

Indeed they have. The psychiatric department, on the other hand, has not. I suggest you go back to were you came from!

[Bobzeh]

Originally posted by Treveler
Indeed they have. The psychiatric department, on the other hand, has not. I suggest you go back to were you came from!

I think you missed my point :/

[Treveler]

Originally posted by L0n3w0lf
thats funny coming from a member of the vvomm group or did you jump sides when you came out of your vac mode

You really don’t see the difference do you?

Besides I have not or never will go into vac mode to make a strategic manoeuvre.

Any VoM player who went into vac mode is lame. Any NaR player going into vac mode now is, ehhhhh /me dont find a word.

[Treveler]

Originally posted by Bobzeh
I think you missed my point :/

Its very lightly since I`m a bit drunk. I will try to re-read it tomorrow.

I tried to make a witty remark tho. It was not in any way personal.

[Cicada]

Originally posted by Mr. Juggalo
a complete reset, and maybe a shuffle to make it random... would be good

nah..i like that 3/4 of my score is in stockpiled eonium

[K-W]

Originally posted by L0n3w0lf
most are cowards and have no skills so use powerblocks to make them look braver and brainer.

shame that this forces other allainces to do the same cause they know if they stood alone they would get FK'ed

the only way to make this game fun and fair is for all allainces to make an agreement that no allaince allies or naps.

but tbh we got more chance of that happening as all allainces disbanding and just have galaxy vs galaxy or cluster vs cluster or para vs para.

which would be FUN!!

You are whats wrong with this game. You are a hypocrite because of your willing ignornace. As has been already pointed out. You werent running around complaining when it was nar who were bashing vom.

Why is everyone acting like this is the first time this has happened. This happens in every round. People get bashed. That is part of this game. As long as there is roids and ships there will be bashing. It is the very nature of this game that over time more and more people get taken out of the round and cant rebuild. Its what roids do.

But regardless, until you recognize that all allaiinces, all HC's are made up of normal players just like you, we will be stuck in this ****fest of a blame game where we just blame all the problems on evil players and dont look at the game mechanics where the problems arise. Go Away.

[God]

Originally posted by K-W
You are whats wrong with this game. You are a hypocrite because of your willing ignornace. As has been already pointed out. You werent running around complaining when it was nar who were bashing vom.

Why is everyone acting like this is the first time this has happened. This happens in every round. People get bashed. That is part of this game. As long as there is roids and ships there will be bashing. It is the very nature of this game that over time more and more people get taken out of the round and cant rebuild. Its what roids do.

But regardless, until you recognize that all allaiinces, all HC's are made up of normal players just like you, we will be stuck in this ****fest of a blame game where we just blame all the problems on evil players and dont look at the game mechanics where the problems arise. Go Away.

[Scouse]

Originally posted by K-W
You are a hypocrite because of your willing ignornace.

This my friends, is also funny.

[Treveler]

Originally posted by K-W
You are whats wrong with this game. You are a hypocrite because of your willing ignornace. As has been already pointed out. You werent running around complaining when it was nar who were bashing vom.

Why is everyone acting like this is the first time this has happened. This happens in every round. People get bashed. That is part of this game. As long as there is roids and ships there will be bashing. It is the very nature of this game that over time more and more people get taken out of the round and cant rebuild. Its what roids do.

But regardless, until you recognize that all allaiinces, all HC's are made up of normal players just like you, we will be stuck in this ****fest of a blame game where we just blame all the problems on evil players and dont look at the game mechanics where the problems arise. Go Away.

Well I’ve been fighting "you "all round. Never the less I find it hard to counter your argument. Last round ended with an LDK/Tits victory. The result was a bashing of LDK/Tits all though Olympians where not LDK and MadCows where just a community alliance.

You keep deny, K-W that eclipse is Fury. If we were to compare the two allies I would assume you would be right. That is, though, never to happen. Eclipse seem to use what most people/gamers call fury tactics and if eclipse are to fight in a simluare universe next round, they will be bashed. My only reason to play next round will be to kill eclipse. That’s just the way it is.

Personally I’ve been fighting against fury before and I have been fighting with fury. I have never though, in my entire pa career, grown to dislike an alliy like I’ve grown to dislike eclipse this round. If you want to find a reason for that, I suggest you look upon yourself. This is NOT a flame.

I don’t know why, but I have a feeling that the hicks post where right up there if I had to decide.

The “mister I’ve been compared to Sid” post was amusing though! :-)

For Sid`s sake I hope it was a joke!

Just for the record. I`m still alitle drunk!

[Zh|l]

Originally posted by Treveler
Well I’ve been fighting "you "all round. Never the less I find it hard to counter your argument. Last round ended with an LDK/Tits victory. The result was a bashing of LDK/Tits all though Olympians where not LDK and MadCows where just a community alliance.

I love it when people like you try to judge this and tell me what the policy was. I'm sure deep down alot of ex-Fury cheered at the fall of VoM but don't try to pin it down as an anti-Titans/LDK move. Eclipse wiped the slate clean for its alliance relations and we were never out to get Olympians from the set-go. When Olympians declared us hostile and set up a block we had no choice but to help in the setup of an opposing block. This is how things began. It was VoM that shot itself in the foot for NaR. You can claim the loss was a result of last round but the real people should realize it wasn't. The only link to earlier rounds as far as I can tell were WP/Ely sticking together and RaH having a dislike for ViruS (I think more than RaH had a dislike for ViruS).

Originally posted by Treveler

You keep deny, K-W that eclipse is Fury. If we were to compare the two allies I would assume you would be right. That is, though, never to happen. Eclipse seem to use what most people/gamers call fury tactics and if eclipse are to fight in a simluare universe next round, they will be bashed. My only reason to play next round will be to kill eclipse. That’s just the way it is.

Excellent, then it looks like I need to look out for my alliances political future and not cut ties to any current allies. I'll also make sure I build a block to be safe from your rebellion. Is that what you want for r10? I know its inevitable and I seem to be targetting you but it is your attitude that creates powerblocks and forces alliances like Eclipse and Olympians to be part of them. You are seriously misguided over "Fury" tactics also. Try looking to your own command staff - both Trin and Cochese were 'Fury'. Trin learnt the mechanics of the game in my own galaxy. Cochese spent a considerable time within Wrath. Eclipse has not used "Fury tactics." We've done exactly the same as any other alliance in the game that is in the same position. Even the "hailed" Deus would be hardpressed to do anything - it actually had decent opponents who kicked back.

Originally posted by Treveler

Personally I’ve been fighting against fury before and I have been fighting with fury. I have never though, in my entire pa career, grown to dislike an alliy like I’ve grown to dislike eclipse this round. If you want to find a reason for that, I suggest you look upon yourself. This is NOT a flame.

Yes, big bad Eclipse. So sorry for bashing you when you fully intended to bash us into the ground before the blocks were even formed. i.e when VoM declared Eclipse hostile when we made no move to form WEET. Don't bother denying it. I suggest you speak to Cochese perhaps within your command to explain the steps that VoM took to kill itself since you may believe it from him rather than me. I think your hate is misguided and you should probably chill for awhile, but since this is PA I guess we'll always go around in this vicious circle.

Originally posted by Treveler


The “mister I’ve been compared to Sid” post was amusing though! :-)

For Sid`s sake I hope it was a joke!

Just for the record. I`m still alitle drunk!

I'm sure if Sid had a problem he would tell us, until he does let the people who know him speak. Perhaps you are so misguided to believe Sid has a steel spiked collar upon the old Fury Executives still and that anyone who dares to say they are compared with him should be struck by his godly lightning.

Both me and Germania have been compared with Sid alot during our command careers. We don't claim to be him, we have just been compared to him in leadership style. Whether that's an insult is for him to decide, not you.

One suggestion: Don't post when drunk.

[Motta]

With all said about alliance politics, vvomm shot themselves in the foot etc.... You can't avoid the fact that the round is turning into a farce....

By now the vvomm players atleast, have been battered so badly..NaR is gettin a beating, thoose not in vac mode...WEET(I call em that, horass me if I say sommit wrong) have now got such an advantage that they can build up mostly attack fleets, as we have a hard time givin opposition. The result of that + vac moding + few targets to go around for WEET is that us already battered vvomm's actually get MORE incomming now, in the "uncoverable" class aka 2-3k DE+A LOT of BS etc coming in para/cluster - only trashing our planets further and further....and this really ****s out morale when it happends daily, even many times a day...every day...every week..sofort...

So you can say that pre round politics made this situation for vvomm, or it didn't - I am not to jugde. We still have to face that the situation NOW (which is the one that counts in my opinion) is horrible, we stagnate, morale drops....people jump into vac mode, quit, dun give a flying fk....

so I think it's up to WEET to do somethin clever politically, split a tad up or whatnot...just to give us who have been battered since day1 of PA a brake...lets us grow a little, and actually enjoy this game - it's a war game etc...but frankly it's not fun evenso when u have crushing fleets coming to slaughter you to bits if u are so unfortunate not being able to send away.....think it over WEET :-)

[Mit]

I said i would update to those suspected in vac mode etc

as of 12/04/2003 07:30 GMT (PT 776)

using the same method as before, i only find 286 people, not the 600 someone claimed.


As for all this powerblocking crap, i can't deny VoM might have started it this round, but thats not the point, HCs don't want to be on the loosing side, hence why they, theres no-one else that can stop it, its down to the HCs, have to do something about it. IE NOT POWERBLOCK.

I've been on the loosing side before, i don't mind, i like the challenge. but now its getting STUPID. Give us a break WEET, there are other planets with more roids, oh no, i forgot, ur allied to them all. Damn what a shame...

[Confraria]

Conclusions...

VoM lost the round before ticks started, due to his "famous" shot in the foot (both of them);

Eclipse won the round here on these boards before anyone went out of protection;

NaR, due to his lack of intelligence/balls, didnt had the courage to do anything but help to bash and whine when their time arrived;

WP and Ely.... who the **** are they?? winners? certainly not.. cheaters? most probably.


Congrats Zhil/Rob.

PACREW: RESET !

[Hala]

It seems a bit stupid from my perspective as a VoM player (am only a scanner this round but I do play a bit) that NaR are now whinging about being owned by WEET, what did you expect when your HCs only looked at things in the short term and ignored the long term outcome of effectively focusing 2 powerful blocks against another powerful block?

Theres no doubt that the HCs of VoM either misjugded the lengths that other alliances would go to punish them for forming the first block, or just plain ****ed up But what bugged me from the rounds beginning was the pure one-sided nature of this round. I think every player deep down knew that Weet/nar would own vom, you only had to look at the numbers of players in the 3 blocks, compare them to how many non block players there were, and the fact that Weet/nar easily outnumbered vom to see that. Now what I don't understand is why Weet/nar decided to go with such a one sided game? I know as a competetive player in previous rounds I always enjoyed a challenge, where there was doubt about the coming conflict, thats what we saw last round and it was pretty fun.

Nar deserves no sympathy, if its Weets fault that the round has stagnated, Nar has also played a massive part in this by naping Weet.

I would be very surprised if any change occured, what options seriously are there to rectify the mess that has existed? As long as the HCs of weet continue to shift blame and refuse to face the situation as it exists the more and more unlikely some sort of change is.

[Ohm]

A mate of me has 50 roids and 900k in score.....

He is under attack by a 4 mill planet......

loosers

[Mit]

Originally posted by Ohm
A mate of me has 50 roids and 900k in score.....

He is under attack by a 4 mill planet......

loosers

sounds about right, deperate for roids etc

[Ohm]

for a n00b entering this round must be like being invited to a game of Monopoly, where the opponents already own the table.

[Mit]

Originally posted by Ohm
for a n00b entering this round must be like being invited to a game of Monopoly, where the opponents already own the table.

yup, unfortunately thats what happens, the bigger ppl bash the little ones cos its easy roids. Teh little ones leave cos of constant bashing, the bigger ones get bored, bash some more... or quit due to no targets. Lacking spine to attack the bigger ppl is a problem, or allying to so many u can't attack the bigger.

[Urkki]

The NaR are vaccing en masse?

Cowards, morons... Running out of words here.

First they destroy any competitiveness from the round by creating the MOAB (mother of all blocks), and effectively help WEET to prevent* everybody else from playing PA.

And then they are so unbelievably stupid that they let WEET to run the show and kick their asses in the record time. Even Ely & WP put up more fight in R5...

And now they're going to vac mode en masse, if I understand correctly? Come on, you cowards! Do you realize that this makes everybody else to be under even more (if possible...) incoming, when WEET run out of targets? First you let the round to develop like it did, and then when it's your turn to get the assrape, you chicken out and let the rest of the uni to suffer even more from your stupidity.

There should be some kind of IQ test for those who are in alliance HCs, and those who don't pass should have their planets deleted... That's referring to NAR HCs of course, for not seeing what would come, VOM HCs were just a bit naive at the beginning of round assuming NARWEET wouldn't do what they now have done.

And I bet atm WEET HCs must feel like they've been robbing candy out of little kids hands. What worries me that it seems like they are enjoying the feeling of kicking the kid in the head after stealing the candy and pushing him into the ground...


*) by preventing I mean making attacking totally pointless as a way to grow in war game. Gaining roids on an attack leads to entire galaxy being under attack within 20 ticks, thus creating situation where you effectively become smaller by attacking successfully, which is ridiculous situation. Or maybe my gal is just too good and we get too many roids whenever we attack?

[hAl]

Originally posted by Mit
Using the PA Tools Database,

SELECT * FROM Planets WHERE ScoreC = 0 AND RoidC = 0;

i.e. no roid and score change, its a simple check - returns 128 planets that have not changed AT ALL. i.e. in vac / closed / waiting to be deleted.

Thats no change since midnight BST thou. I'll check again tomorrow if ur interested.

Closed or deleted planets might still add score. My deleted planet (wel over a week ago) is still scoring around 3% every day. So consider all you find with this query to be in vac mode. With NaR about having 500 active players left in this round the 128 you found number would be about a quarter of NaR. Mayby a bit less cause there are some others in vac mode as well.

hAl

[KoRnNut]

Originally posted by Urkki
First they destroy any competitiveness from the round by creating the MOAB (mother of all blocks), and effectively help WEET to prevent* everybody else from playing PA.

It was very stupid indeed to nap with WEET. Incredibly ****ing stupid. I offer my condolences to everyone playing R9 on behalf of NaR.

Going into Vacation mode was a hard decision to make but it is basically an admittence of defeat or perhaps a nonrequested CeaseFire. Asking WEET to back the hell off was never an option, so forcing them to back off was a better option.

WEET are going to outgrow us by 3 days now? OMFG! As if it matters!!!!

The top 2 galaxies(both WEET) alone have more roids than the entirity of NoS. The Top 10 galaxies(all WEET) have more asteroids than NaR/VoM/Randoms/ect combined. These are the facts that my very well coded AdminTools for my alliance tell me.

Do you need me to explain to you in simple terms how the other 100 or so WEET galaxies play a role in the numbers, or can you figure it out for yourself?

We've been Owned. But in 36 hours most of us will be back from vacation mode and well, well out of range for WEET to even attack us. *pld* WEET. We'll see what becomes of R9 politically in the next few weeks and perhaps we'll have someone in our score range to spar with again.

I'm enjoying my 3 days off, so shut yer pie hole.

thx

[Lerxst]

Originally posted by KoRnNut
I'm enjoying my 3 days off, so shut yer pie hole.thx

I gonna make some sushi this evening. Shake-nigiri and kappa-maki. Want some daddy?