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8 Jan 2003, 23:01
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The Hopi Tribe
The Hopi area a small tribe from India. Their language has no recognition of the concepts of time. There are no terms to refer to the past or the future, to them time is the opposite to our linear, it is subjective and almost unlimited, or even unexisting. So then, is time a human concept? Does time originate from our language?
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8 Jan 2003, 23:04
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One man's, or one group's, or even every groups', denial of reality does not mean that reality ceases to exist. Although seeing as there's a theory floating around whereby we created the universe through our own observance of it (or something vaguely along those lines), possibly.
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8 Jan 2003, 23:26
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India?
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8 Jan 2003, 23:37
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tactitus
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I wondered to. I know there is a Hopi Indian tribe in the American Southwest, hadn't heard about the Hopi's in India, although they may exist for all I know.
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8 Jan 2003, 23:55
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Originally posted by Nixjim
I wondered to. I know there is a Hopi Indian tribe in the American Southwest, hadn't heard about the Hopi's in India, although they may exist for all I know.
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pff
they are the Hopi Indian tribe as I know them. I assumed that that meant that they were Indian. But I'm just kaned, so damned if I know.
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9 Jan 2003, 00:03
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Klaatu barada nikto
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Originally posted by barry
they are the Hopi Indian tribe as I know them. I assumed that that meant that they were Indian. But I'm just kaned, so damned if I know.
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Ah, ok.
Anyway, as I understand it, the Hopi (and Mayan too, iirc) have more of a cyclical view of time rather than a linear view. Same information; different coordinate system.
Or something like that... 
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9 Jan 2003, 00:11
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I'd be cynical of claims like this. From what I can remember from reading Pinker (and other linguists) most of these examples (tribes with no concept of "I", etc.) are generally myths. They will have a concept of time but will simply express it differently. Ocassionally it will affect verbs etc in a radically different way to other languages, but that doesn't mean they haven't thought of it or that it doesn't enter their mental landscape.
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9 Jan 2003, 00:12
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time developed from how long it takes for the the earth to rotate, the moon to orbit the earth, and the earth to orbit the sun.
Then split into measurable amounts...
however seconds seem to fit quite well into lots of equations so there may be a more scientific reason for them...
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