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Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Okay.
I'm deeply, deeply infatuated with someone. But here's the problem: They're in a relationship. And they're of the same sex as me. And I don't know if they're bisexual.
Eeeek.
I wish I could just 'turn this off'. But I can't. It's ridiculous, since I barely know this person, but I know enough about them to be interested. I think that's partly the problem; I'm projecting my fantasies regarding ideal same-sex love onto them. 'If I was with them, everything would be alright.'
I'd try talking to them, but I've tried it before, and conversation gets nowhere. I'm shit at talking at the best of times, but everytime I try to talk to this person, tumbleweed silence descends.
So I'm sending out as SOS to you good people. Please help me!
And no, this is not anyone from PA, or anyone any of you know, before that question is asked.
I understand that I won't get a serious reply, and that there's probably no real 'answer' to this, but I thought I, and possibly you as well, might be cheered up by some of the hilarious (lol) replies.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
The fact they're in a relationship is a big enough hurdle on its own MM.
The fact he might not even be gay is an even bigger one.
If he is, what are the chances of him leaving her for you? Not that high.
I know it's shitty and sucks, but it's not a particularly great situation you've got yourself here.
My advice would be to try your best to move on - do you see him often? How hard would it be to try and ween yourself off the infatuation?
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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My advice would be to try your best to move on - do you see him often? How hard would it be to try and ween yourself off the infatuation?
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Try and insert* the idea about open society, and see if he accepts / likes the idea of homosexuality. Don't go on about how great it is and then find out he doesn't like it!
Try and strike up a converstation about him and his relationship. Something slightly better than "So you've got a girlfriend? What's she like?", but that sort of thing.. Classic questions are how long they've been together, how they met, and so on. See if it's likely to fray in the future. You can generally jump onto a converstation about sex at this point, to see how interested he'd be in sleeping with another guy, and so on.
Don't walk up to him drunk and say "What are you drinking, oh and how about ditching your gf and going off with me". Unless it's obvious that you're joking. Which you wouldn't be.
*no pun indended. Honest
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
If you're all anxious you'll end up nowhere; nonchalance often helps.
You've convinced yourself you love this guy. So unconvince yourself; breed new thoughts.
Get drunk with friends. If that doesn't help, move country. Seriously.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
He does seem to be quite open about most things. He's kind of like a cross between Dante and someone inferior and with long hair.
btw, his girlfriend is a whore. A whore. An ignorant, offensive, presumptuous, arrogant whore.
I just wanted to make that clear.
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Okay.
I'm deeply, deeply infatuated with someone. But here's the problem: They're in a relationship. And they're of the same sex as me. And I don't know if they're bisexual.
Eeeek.
I wish I could just 'turn this off'. But I can't. It's ridiculous, since I barely know this person, but I know enough about them to be interested. I think that's partly the problem; I'm projecting my fantasies regarding ideal same-sex love onto them. 'If I was with them, everything would be alright.'
I'd try talking to them, but I've tried it before, and conversation gets nowhere. I'm shit at talking at the best of times, but everytime I try to talk to this person, tumbleweed silence descends.
So I'm sending out as SOS to you good people. Please help me!
And no, this is not anyone from PA, or anyone any of you know, before that question is asked.
I understand that I won't get a serious reply, and that there's probably no real 'answer' to this, but I thought I, and possibly you as well, might be cheered up by some of the hilarious (lol) replies.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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He does seem to be quite open about most things. He's kind of like a cross between Dante and someone inferior and with long hair.
btw, his girlfriend is a whore. A whore. An ignorant, offensive, presumptuous, arrogant whore.
I just wanted to make that clear.
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And he loves her, and not you. And thats not something worth attempting to break up.
Watch the situation closely. If things deteriorate, be his best mate, be his confidant, but make yourself the sand in the vaseline, and youll be bi and single for a long, long time.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
lol U R GAY lol
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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And he loves her,
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I don't know that. All I know is that he's been with her for a few months. And this chap has lowwwwwwwww self-esteem. You should have seen the size of his last girlfriend.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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I don't know that. All I know is that he's been with her for a few months. And this chap has lowwwwwwwww self-esteem. You should have seen the size of his last girlfriend.
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he has low self esteem, she's a wh0re. invite yourself into a 3some, and see if he wants some man on man action
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
If he has very low self esteem and tends to have girl friends who bully him and boss him around.
Might I recommend that you bully him and boss him around. Don't imagine for a second that being kind, understanding or sweet will get you anywhere.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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invite yourself into a 3some,
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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If he has very low self esteem and tends to have girl friends who bully him and boss him around.
Might I recommend that you bully him and boss him around. Don't imagine for a second that being kind, understanding or sweet will get you anywhere.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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If he has very low self esteem and tends to have girl friends who bully him and boss him around.
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I'm not sure if they boss him and bully him, but they are certainly overweight. I think he likes to feel superior to them, actually. I know I do.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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I thought you favoured the 'softly-softly' approach?
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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lol U R GAY 2 lol
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Ur ****in ded!
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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lol U R GAY lol
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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You best not come to any GD Meets soon Rich, itll be Rohypnol in your Ovaltine and before you know it, youll be doing the John Wayne walk courtesy of Mr "Goth but not Goth".
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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Ur ****in ded!
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They're all just jealous. Ignore them. Most of them haven't had angst threads in months.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Exile yourself in China.
Out of sight, out of mind.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
They have prettyboys in China.
pretties
Shanghai pretties
That's actually quite a good idea.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Only with orientals, though. As you yourself have pointed out before, Indians have small cocks.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
The bi thing is just a side issue as far as im concerened, the main point is that you're infatuated with someone who you feel is 'better' than you and who'll make your whole life gay (lol reference) and jolly. I think you're the one with the self esteem and confidence problems MM Everyone gets those kinds of feelings about someone, i once knew this utterly perfect girl who was cheerful and bright, thoughful and funny all inside a gorgeous body. Watching her turn into a bitchy bitch bitch over nothing one day was very nice and it broke the spell.
If this guy was perfect and his life was pefect and he was perfectly gay and everything was supersupersuper, then yes you'd have a perfect nice life with someone who made the clouds part and the sun come out (of the closet). But i think deep down you know that isn't reality, im guessing but theres probably aspects of his personality or the way he lives his life that you either want a part of or want to be 'like'. You probably want to emulate something about him rather than spend the rest of your life with him. Just think about what that is and improve your life without falling for a fantasy that never existed.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
MM, you are ridiculous. Leave the hetro man alone, if he had nonce tendancies you would know it withjout asking GD. For axample, he would be bald headed, have a goatee beard, wear pink, drink some wee in a bottle like WKD or smirnoff Ice, cackle a lot when around other men and generally mince for england.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
What's here exactly to help. This guy seems to be in a hetrosexual relationship.
Are there any reasons to believe you've got a thiny change of conquering this guy? If not, go on with your life, it's just hormons.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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it's just hormons.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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MM, you are ridiculous. Leave the hetro man alone, if he had nonce tendancies you would know it withjout asking GD. For axample, he would be bald headed, have a goatee beard, wear pink, drink some wee in a bottle like WKD or smirnoff Ice, cackle a lot when around other men and generally mince for england.
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[insert KoeN/KaneED/Silversmoke joke]
Btw - Crashtester banned?
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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Btw - Crashtester banned?
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He is?
Oh lordy, my hand must have slipped.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
You could use that same excuse with the object of your desire when you stuff your hand down his pants.
Maybe?
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Well, I do have a twitch in my left hand.
Cock-grabbing is always worth a try if you're the type who likes russian roulete; you'll either get a punch, or instant homolove.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Are you sure that after you have sex with him your feelings wont go away?
Maybe you just want to have sex with him so bad that after it's done and dusted* you wont feel satisfied.
*hehe
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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Are you sure that after you have sex with him your feelings wont go away?
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I don't know. I haven't been able to test this as of yet.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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Are you sure that after you have sex with him your feelings wont go away?
Maybe you just want to have sex with him so bad that after it's done and dusted* you wont feel satisfied.
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I assume from the first post in the thread that MM doesn't just want sex. Although to be fair, most relationships these days do involve a fair amount of sex.
Going back to my "softly, softly" approach, try and meet up with him when you're both sober sometime in the week? See what he's like then, and if he still inspires you.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
How about dropping 'I wish you were bi' in conversation (I assume he knows urgay lolz) ?
Kind of like how you dropped the "I'd do Dante in a hearbeat if he were up for it" earlier this thread?
i just think that if he's straight he'd take it as a compliment, the end, if he's bi he'll either say "actually i'm bi but i don't cheat" or 'lets hit the bathroom and make out'
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Wait a minute. I didn't say I'd 'do' Dante.
Mr Cropolis, you are imagining dirty things.
But that's a good suggestion, though. I might try that.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Just ask him what his favorite condoms are.
If he says ribbed, he's definatly bi.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Though crash-tester's a **** at times, I don't think he should have been banned. I thought be added something mildly amusing to the forums. OK - so he was advertising another board, with all of 3 posts, but so what? His sole objective wasn't to advertise - he also trolled quite a bit.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
To be honest, they only way you'll ever know is to broach the subject with him.
You'll have to be brave and bring it up somehow, or else you'll just be left with the usual irritating unrequited love thing of never knowing.
It doesn't have to be a "would you kick me in the face if I sucked your cock" kinda thing, maybe prod a little into his attitudes about hooking up with a guy.
Judge the reaction and go from there.
If, however, you want to keep the fantasies about him then don't bother. It might be a case of you already know in your heart he's not up for it, but refrain from seeing so you can entertain the fantasty instead of having it crushed permanatly.
Good luck anyway, whatever happens.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
Email him pictures of your penis from an anonymous Hotmail account and say "I know you want this".
If he replies back saying "Yes please , bukkake special please" youre in.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
More likely to get a reply of "where is it?" am i rite?
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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More likely to get a reply of "where is it?" am i rite?
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DM in "Ive seen (or not seen) Manson's cock" non-shockar!
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
kura joke
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
lol.. if you cant shock 'em... spock 'em, if you cant spock 'em... block 'em.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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Cock-grabbing is always worth a try if you're the type who likes russian roulete; you'll either get a punch, or instant homolove.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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Though crash-tester's a **** at times, I don't think he should have been banned. I thought be added something mildly amusing to the forums. OK - so he was advertising another board, with all of 3 posts, but so what? His sole objective wasn't to advertise - he also trolled quite a bit.
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Well he has been patronising lately. To a few people.
I think the presumptuous prick fully deserves it.
In fact, don't unban him please.
Ta.
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
I think you should sleep with the girlfriend to split them up
P.S. RE: Crashtester:
Looking at his recent posts...
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Re: Big bi Manson's big bi angst thread
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Originally Posted by Weeks
Though crash-tester's a **** at times, I don't think he should have been banned. I thought be added something mildly amusing to the forums. OK - so he was advertising another board, with all of 3 posts, but so what? His sole objective wasn't to advertise - he also trolled quite a bit.
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Were you making an argument for Crash Tester not to be banned? Because it's self defeating when you present evidence against your own argument without a rebuttal. I thought your argument could go either way.
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