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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 01:46   #1
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£9k PC Specs

One's for leaving on all day and night for most of the week while running as a workstation whenever as I feel like (raid), the 2nd for 3D work and the box for routing and stuff.

PC 1:

AMD Palomino 1533@1735
Alpha PAL8045 + 80mm YS-Tech Fan
Abit KX7333 w/ Crystal Orb Cooled Northbridge
1024MB (2x512Mb Modules) Samsung PC2700@150Mhz (2-2-2 + Ultra Command Decode But 2T Command Rate)
3Ware Escalade 6410 Storage Switch (BIOS: BE6X 1.07.00.05)
Array 0: 2x80Gb WD Caviar SE w/8mb Cache (64K Stripe)
Array 2: 2x120Gb WD Caviar SE w/ 8mb Cache (512K Stripe)
PNY GF4 Ti4600@325/675 128Mb
Sony CPD-G220 at a Desktop Res of 1152x864 32bit @ 100Hz
3Com 3CR990SVR97 ARM9 Cored Server NIC w/ 256k Unified Cache
3Com 3C905TX Parallel Tasking Desktop NIC
Asus 50x CD Drive
Pioneer 105s DVD Drive (RPC I)
Lite-on 32x LTR32123S CD Burner (Firmware LTR40125S)
Windows 2000 Professional SP3

PC 2

AMD Palomino 1466
GlobalWin SAK-38 + Delta BlackLabel 7000rpm 60mm Fan
IWill KK266-PlusR/BR> 768MB (3x256Mb Modules) Corsair PC150@133Mhz (2-2-2)
60Gb Seagate HD
10Gb Fujitsu HD
Else GF2 Ultra@300/500 64Mb
Generic 17" Monitor at a Desktop Res of 1024x768 32bit @ 85Hz
DLink DFE-530TX VIA Rhine Desktop NIC
Mitsumi 24x CD-Rom
Windows 2000 Professional SP3

Box

Dual Intel Pentium II 350
Supermicro P6DBS w/ onboard Adaptec UW SCSI
640Mb PC100 SDRAM
10Gb Maxtor HD
Creative GeForce DDR 32Mb
Realtek 8139c Desktop NIC w/ 2(2k) FIFO Buffers
Aopen 32x CD Drive
Yamaha 4x2x6 SCSI CD Burner
Redhat Linux 8.0
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 01:59   #3
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Flavius - these are 2nd pc specs - a friend is offering to sell 'em to me so I'd change the ram between the 2 systems (I can do so thanks to the mobo's)
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Why 3? surely one is enough.

Personally i'd blow the lot on one watercooled silent pc oc'd to a ridiculous level.

Also why on earth have you specced the pc 'for 3d work' with a crap monitor, cpu and gfx?!? 3ds max on 1024x768 doesnt actually fit the full tab panel width (so if your using that its going to be a bit pointless). and when your doing bulk animations i'd expect at least a dual cpu setup to get a decent render performance.

Remember you can only use one at any one time.
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Flavius - these are 2nd pc specs - a friend is offering to sell 'em to me so I'd change the ram between the 2 systems (I can do so thanks to the mobo's)
Defiantley not worth £9k.
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not heavy 3d work - well yet anyway

I just got myself a LW license after I sold a few old designs hanging around and as far as I've tested it works ok on it

I could use my first workstation instead but I'm keeping things seperate atm (when I get 'em)
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I could use my first workstation instead but I'm keeping things seperate atm (when I get 'em)
Why?

My current pc beats them all for 3d work and its a heap!
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For 3d work, the most important part is the monitor. If i had £9k i'd spend at least £2k on that alone.
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Well if you can find me a decent jobby deal for less than £9k featuring 2 pc's - 1 machine with RAID, thermaltake cooling system or something, network cards, cd writing hardware etc. and a 2nd box for less then sure I'll take it

Oh - I just got a link about a Sony monitor - Multiscan F520 - seems stable and good. £770
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honestly though, why 3?

So what if it has a tt cooling system? The processors are both slower than mine and I got it for about £60.

Monitor is nice tho.
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If youre wanting to do serious graphics work, you should buy an Apple Mac instead.
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with 9k id buy 1 big pc thats scarily fast and has more space both in terms of memory and hdd than you can shake a stick at.


pls explan why u need 3 and not 1?
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With 9k I'd buy a £1.5k laptop and another £500 on some sort of satellite ISP thing and spend the rest on getting my lardy white ass to Australia so I could sit and do all my work on Bondai beach.

Now THAT'S a good use of £9,000, buying 3 PC's ISN'T
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Well if you can find me a decent jobby deal for less than £9k featuring 2 pc's - 1 machine with RAID, thermaltake cooling system or something, network cards, cd writing hardware etc. and a 2nd box for less then sure I'll take it
Christsakes man, go cost the parts on dabs or something.
You could build 4 or 5 substantially better PCs with monitors for £9k if you do it yourself. £1800 per PC (assuming 5) is a very generous budget for a self build operation.
As for not wanting to do it yourself - I hear 2 excuses from people for why they don't want to. They don't know how to - which is crap, because everything comes with instructions and even if it didn't its pretty obvious, and they don't have the time - which is also crap as you can put a PC together in about 30 minutes if you're in a rush. Most of the time is spent installing the software - something you'll have to do anyway.

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My PC beats the hell out of any of those machines and cost £900 - where on Earth are you buying them from? Mars?
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Then look around, scan or ebuyer or whatever, but it sure as hell won't cost that much.
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Then look around, scan or ebuyer or whatever, but it sure as hell won't cost that much.
hehe, could see who can get all the stated parts for the cheapest (including links) in a competition-type thing.






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personally id go for option 2.
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oh cray do an "X1" for 2.5million U$D :-)
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oh cray do an "X1" for 2.5million U$D :-)
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For all you people asking 'why do you need 3 pcs' i think you should burn in hell, as i desperatly need a 3rd pc :/ I have an openbsd gateway and theres my dualboot linux/windows pc, but id like a 3rd windows pc to sit well away from all the others so i can leave it on downloading stuff and not worry about the fact i need to reboot to switch os!

And you could buy 3 of the best wintel pcs available for £9k though they probably wouldnt come with a spangly monitor good enough for proper 3D work.

What designs did you sell btw?
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Originally posted by Apothos
hehe, could see who can get all the stated parts for the cheapest (including links) in a competition-type thing.
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www.pcindex.co.uk

i 'win'

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