Elysium WON!!

[Storebo]

Elysium was #1 earlier this round when we only had 100 players among ourself and where leading above alliances with larger membership then us. Then we got the whole universe against us. And with this rounds rules where only ally can defend you, it is damn hard to stay up there. Elysium maintained command structure and spirit and came through this and ended up winning the round. If some players of other alliances decided they felt more at home in Elysium it says more about your alliances then ours.

Elysium didn't recruit themself up here, Elysium earned it. So don't say Elysium recruited themself to the top. Through out Elysium history Elysium have allways played by the rules, and upheld the greatest sence of honour and decency among any alliance out there. Even became to much for me for a while, we where to honourable. But why do people have a problem with the honourable alliance riding into the sunset with the price once in a while?

After every round Elysium have played with honour and respect, don't they deserve a well done from the rest instead of all the crap? I know you all wanted your own ally to win and I understand that. But give Elysium a break and the honour they deserve!

[alch]

well i will be the first to congrats you then - just remain respectful to your ennemies, and act the same as you want us to act with you.
i wont go in the details of the recruitment and others but you did finish #1 and congrats

[Xeno]

Do you see me or my 2,000 mates stating the opposite? No. What you see is a handfull of whiners.


Xeno

[Mitre]

Originally Posted by Storebo

Elysium didn't recruit themself up here, Elysium earned it. So don't say Elysium recruited themself to the top.

Elysium recruited themself upto 1 rank, even you gotta see that

[Storebo]

Originally Posted by alch

well i will be the first to congrats you then - just remain respectful to your ennemies, and act the same as you want us to act with you.
i wont go in the details of the recruitment and others but you did finish #1 and congrats

Just noticed other threads where sertain people where silently referring to sertain things...

[ParraCida]

Well, congratulations storebo. After all the good players left you were finally able to win a round.

[Zh|l]

Took you long enough...


...even then you could only do it by recruiting your enemies in the final stages due to another unnamed alliance leading the top position after FAnG's implosion.

[Maddix]

Originally Posted by Storebo

After every round Elysium have played with honour and respect, don't they deserve a well done from the rest instead of all the crap? I know you all wanted your own ally to win and I understand that. But give Elysium a break and the honour they deserve!

Erm, asking for congratulations?

Oh god, how sad.

[mikay]

When you fight as part of a block there is no shared victory. All of EET had a part, just ely were the ones who put most importance on having the highest ingame ranking. I'm currently tagged as an Ely planet but there is no question everything I did this round was for fang and largely against ely - yet I contribute to that win.

If you are concerned on who was the BEST alliance, who had the best tactics throughout the round then I would say all the top 3 (Ely, Ecl, FAnG) did very well but I would actally concede I think Ely were the best midround and this is more impressive when you compare their (active) player numbers compared to Ecl.

[Iceaxe]

Originally Posted by Storebo

Elysium didn't recruit themself up here!

Much as I know you love to stir things up, this line is a little wild mate. Without those additional FAnG planets I'm not so sure Ely would have come away with the #1 ingame alliance ranking, but as countless others have pointed out when you fight as a block you win as a block so you can't really say Elysium alone won.

[ElAlan]

Originally Posted by ParraCida

Well, congratulations storebo. After all the good players left you were finally able to win a round.

I could swear Storebo was talking about alliance win not his own win. But anyway if you mean by Storebo wining a round by being in the winning alliance then i suggest you read his sig...you see he was in LCH r9, wing of ToT...and who won r9?. Answers on a postcard.

[Iceaxe]

I would put money on parra coming back with there were no good players left in r9 either

(note thats not my opinion just my bet)

[Storebo]

Originally Posted by Iceaxe

Much as I know you love to stir things up, this line is a little wild mate. Without those additional FAnG planets I'm not so sure Ely would have come away with the #1 ingame alliance ranking, but as countless others have pointed out when you fight as a block you win as a block so you can't really say Elysium alone won.

Is just a bit of protest against the guys who try to put Elysium down. I wouldn't feel bad if Eclipse won and Elysium came in second in alliance rankings. The good side won. Is a joint victory ofcourse. Havn't really had 1 ally winning a round since Concordium. Is all blocks after that.

[Iceaxe]

The good side.... hehe

[AzureWrath]

Storebo created this thread with the sole intention of replying to flames, he's bored I think :-P

Elysium did recruit to #1

Elysium did play a good round, we were #1 earlier, but the end counts (which is why im not proclaiming fang winners either) As somebody already stated tho, there really are no winners in a block war, have to share with the team.

Personally, I would feel better if we ended #1 with our original memberbase and not with the 'hiding from eclipse' fangs

Oh well, it's all water under the bridge now.

The only victory im really proud about is my gal finishing 6th and my wee planet finishing t125

I know every alliance (well most, well..the socalled 1337 alliances) want to win a round, but a well earned 2nd place is better than the way this victory was carried out.

[Queen DAX]

Originally Posted by AzureWrath

Storebo created this thread with the sole intention of replying to flames, he's bored I think :-P

Elysium did recruit to #1

Elysium did play a good round, we were #1 earlier, but the end counts (which is why im not proclaiming fang winners either) As somebody already stated tho, there really are no winners in a block war, have to share with the team.

Personally, I would feel better if we ended #1 with our original memberbase and not with the 'hiding from eclipse' fangs

Oh well, it's all water under the bridge now.

The only victory im really proud about is my gal finishing 6th and my wee planet finishing t125

I know every alliance (well most, well..the socalled 1337 alliances) want to win a round, but a well earned 2nd place is better than the way this victory was carried out.

i always loved your honesty

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by Iceaxe

I would put money on parra coming back with there were no good players left in r9 either

(note thats not my opinion just my bet)

There were good players left after r7? Get out of here!

[Ad0]

A group containing Storebo recruiting to stay on top...... *shocker*

Cummon REALLY

[JonnyBGood]

I think Elysium deserve some respect for keeping their players motivated throughout a round which in it's better moments resembled dying roadkill. The whole FAnG thing's a bit silly. Nobody claims that concordium wonn r2 because it was only their HC who ****ed up and if they'd kept their members they would have had nearly all the top players. If the round ended two months from now or fang had imploded earlier nobody would be grudging elysium their score victory. It's not like they went out and annihilated all opposition but in PAX that could take anything up to a year heh.

[Guran]

Yes, Elysium recruited ~18 FAnG members after the FAnG incident. Without recruiting them Elysium would not have won. This is common sense. No need for anyone to flame about this. Elysium had much less members than FAnG and Eclipse so there were no way we could win with 30-40 less members.

Am I the onlyone who thinks the whole round was a joke?


Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

[RealJames]

Congrats to Ely on their win, regardless of circumstances.

[Forest]

The real winners are the small alliances who kept playing when they had no chance of a decent rankings.

The real winners are the planets who rebuilt time and time again after being hit by bigger planets non-stop.

The real winners are thise guys who achived there own aims, that are not nessessarily the aims of the so-called 'elite' alliances.

The real winners are those that work hard to put something into this game, as opposed to those whose sole aim is tkae something out.

The real winners are those fang who stayed and fought for an alliance they knew couldnt protect em very well,a nd that was in dire need of some help.

I have no respect for anyone who leaves there friends and allies and join someone who is hostile, someone who they ahve accused as cheats, in order to preserve there score. No respect.


<Random Fang #1> Ely are cheats, not us. They even got hc planets closed and deleted.

<Random Fang #2> Yes.

<Random Fang #1> They cheat so bad, we would never abuse a bug like they did. We would of killed em a long time ago if it wasnt for there bug abusing.

<Random Fang #2> Yes.

<Random Fang #1> Lets jon Ely.

<Random Fang #2> Yes.

[Guran]

Propaganda..

[Scorpio]

Originally Posted by Forest

<Random Fang> We will not let Eclipse win!

<Random Fang #1> Lets jon Ely.

<Random Fang #2> Yes.

Pretty much the same intention as Xanadu had for round 4 ("We will not let Fury win")

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Pretty much the same intention as Xanadu had for round 4 ("We will not let Fury win")

and you have achieved that by doing what ?
a) Eclipse won the round simply beeing in the winning block
b) Eclipse won the round as the 2nd strongest maybe singlestrongest factor (in case you dont add the fang-defectors in the final evaluation since they did no single shot for ely in the war)
c) Eclipse achieved nearly all its maingoals and owned with his allies they hostile block
d) whole of EET decided right from the start they would stand together till the end, since there can be only one winner and there shouldnt be a r9 replay.

This round was a blockwin, like stated from both ely and eclipse hc prior to this thread.
If storebo feels the need to give us some halfassed excuses for what alot of ppl view as dishonourable he can do so.
Nevertheless the recruits only added a cosmetic flaw to the whole but did not prevent the predetermined outcome which was already in the move, thanks to the hard work ely, eclipse and their allies putted into it.
So regardless of any "whys and how" congratz to ely for a well played round.

Therefore the threadtitle is a typical troll.

The only thing the defecting fangers have achieved imo is that they showed they are morons and disloyal shipjumpers. Their hope and even demand of elysium going to war with eclipse was tricked nicely by ely hc and they were kept in the believe to split this relationship. 72h before end they realised that they were played and due to the successfull EET strategy to target Dragons massively they were also ripped of any chance to influence the final allianceranking an a way negative for eet as the scoredifference with dragons dropped enough to prevent any last minute changes. Therefore the fangers initial plan to destroy eet from within (irvine said that) or to bring dragons to a last minute win, failed thanks to the good play of ely and their allies.

To me all this looks like in the end you were pretty much owned and had not much chance to do anything but sit it out cause either ely would win as part of the eet block with their allies eclipse or eclipse would win as the part of the eet block with their allies ely. All shitstirring and troublemakeing was futile.

[Forest]

How is my statement full of myelf?

[RealJames]

Originally Posted by LB|away

We messed it up for ourselfs, we cant blame anyone for that.
And ely was the lucky alliance who adopted some of the big fang planets that still wanted to play and didnt wanna die in the last week.

That really is the crux of it. Each had what the other wanted. Those exposed FAnG planets didn't want to be torn limb from limb, unable to be defended by a now crippled alliance. Ely wanted to win, and by adopting these defectors they could do so.

I'll be surprised to see how many of these remain loyal to Ely.

[dabult]

Good job on recruiting the most enemies in the end :thumbup:

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Rumad

I would just like to point out the rela winners of teh round

"free players" who haven't paid the fee and those that are retired. Just rememebr they are teh real winners as they didn't waste there money on a sub standard game

youre right :/

eventho i might argue that ppl who turned pax down before tick one might even own the free players, since they didnt waste any time on this shit either!

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Rumad

Why dd we never get on when I played PA - you just made me laugh :/

guess because we are now both retired and bitter explayers and therefore there is no e-penis competition anymore

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Storebo

Elysium was #1 earlier this round when we only had 100 players among ourself and where leading above alliances with larger membership then us. Then we got the whole universe against us. And with this rounds rules where only ally can defend you, it is damn hard to stay up there. Elysium maintained command structure and spirit and came through this and ended up winning the round. If some players of other alliances decided they felt more at home in Elysium it says more about your alliances then ours.

Elysium didn't recruit themself up here, Elysium earned it. So don't say Elysium recruited themself to the top. Through out Elysium history Elysium have allways played by the rules, and upheld the greatest sence of honour and decency among any alliance out there. Even became to much for me for a while, we where to honourable. But why do people have a problem with the honourable alliance riding into the sunset with the price once in a while?

After every round Elysium have played with honour and respect, don't they deserve a well done from the rest instead of all the crap? I know you all wanted your own ally to win and I understand that. But give Elysium a break and the honour they deserve!

A well played round to Elysium, the numbers are there, the proof is there and so according to PA rules your ended #1.

Eventhough you might deserve this win, same with Eclipse or FAnG, you recruited yourself to the #1 postion. Under no circumstances would Elysium be able to end #1 if FAnG didn't explode and those pple running to Elysium. Yet that doesn't make your efforts worth less this round, it just gives a false impression of the round and a rather strange and dishonourable victory.

Don't Forget FAnG has been in the #1 postion longer then any other alliance, we know how it feels to have all alliances aiming at you and your own allies not able to defend because of the ETA -1 rule. We have been in that position alot longer then Elysium or Eclipse had and in the end EET was doin a great job making it nearly impossible for FAnG to maintain the top position (eventhough we held it till 1-2 weeks before the finish). So gratz for that and I hope we can fight again on the battlefields this time, more then on AD etc

rgds Kj

[Razorback]

well played kj, fang was a worthy opposition till they broke.

[Kal]

/me joins the party

NoS/hirr won!!!!!

why?

NoS goals at the start of the round were to finish top 10 - we exceeded this.
We worked with our EET allies to defeat FAnG/Dragons.
We fought a war with Vision and came out on top rankings wise.

So to add to the controvercy I would say its a EET-NhH victory against FDVNV

Perhaps it would be better to look at who didn't win rather than who won... seems that would be easier.

One thing that is certain though, planetarion is the big looser, with many alliances closing over the course of the round, and others threatening to leave.

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by KalVirtus

/One thing that is certain though, planetarion is the big looser, with many alliances closing over the course of the round, and others threatening to leave.

and not to forget the tons of fkups and personalitychanges in pateam and the quiet few "scandals" we had in addition to the general playershrink.

bright new future just 15 euro, anyone ?

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Razorback

and not to forget the tons of fkups and personalitychanges in pateam and the quiet few "scandals" we had in addition to the general playershrink.

bright new future just 15 euro, anyone ?

I'll buy a sixpack

rgds Kj

[RealJames]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Eventhough you might deserve this win, same with Eclipse or FAnG, you recruited yourself to the #1 postion. Under no circumstances would Elysium be able to end #1 if FAnG didn't explode and those pple running to Elysium. Yet that doesn't make your efforts worth less this round, it just gives a false impression of the round and a rather strange and dishonourable victory.

I must say this is the first mention of Eclipse's achievements this round. It seems that unless you do something contraversial your efforts go unnoticed.

[Nadar]

It's funny that you can claim Elysium winners Storebo.. They indeed was #1 for a while mid-round, but they got beaten down from that position.. I wouldn't call you winners because you recruited 20-30 ex-FAnG members at end of round just to pass Eclipse in rankings.. You've been and will always be an arrogant twat Storebo! Merry Jul to u

[gzambo]

fs everyone knows that R&T won

its ovbious that the EET block finished top but no single alliance can claim victory despiote ely finishing top of the rankings in game (even if they had to recruit to get there )

[auther pendragon]

its true that the fang traitors ended up as king makers (which overstates their morality / importance /respect due)

its true that has ely not recruited them then there may well had been a different #1

its also true that eclipse wouldnt accept any other than the 2 that joined before the webangel incident

so to give ely their due they (probably) prevented the win going to wolfpack or dragons (as well as eclipse) and respect to them for managing that situation. (eclipse would have preferred to smash the (ex fang) to bits TBH)

in the end it was a NEET victory which was as planned so congrats to them all for respecting that agreement.

IMHO that was the only silk purse to be made out of a sows ear of a round

the N in NEET standing for NOS/Hirr btw to be clear

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by auther pendragon

the N in NEET standing for NOS/Hirr btw to be clear

fs.. NoS/hirr .. no one ever gets that right

[Naps]

We fought a war with Vision and came out on top rankings wise <<<--
Er yeh but who asked for the ceasefire?
Who dropped all their innactives so in turn dropped below NoS/Hirr?

So tbh No you didnt win a war VS VisioN you begged for a ceasefire which the our HC gave you (me coughs *muppets*) and you carried on along your merry way while we, dropped all our innactives lost 10million + score + TONS of roids then we climbed our way back up and were catching you again.
Before we dropped our innactives we were infront of you so NO you didnt win the war. Think on

[Kal]

lol

a) in all the major battles of the war we killed more vision ships than vision killed nos/hirr ships
b) the cease fire had been discussed for a number of days between myself and various Vision HCs
c) both sides at an HC and BC level were bored with hitting the same planets everyday
d) notice i said rankings wise - imo the war was very even, and had you not dropepd your inacitves we would have probably had a longer war - but with you dropping them it menat that you were no longer a valid military target.

[Lord_Olrik]

Originally Posted by Storebo

Elysium didn't recruit themself up here, Elysium earned it. So don't say Elysium recruited themself to the top. Through out Elysium history Elysium have allways played by the rules, and upheld the greatest sence of honour and decency among any alliance out there. Even became to much for me for a while, we where to honourable. But why do people have a problem with the honourable alliance riding into the sunset with the price once in a while?

After every round Elysium have played with honour and respect, don't they deserve a well done from the rest instead of all the crap? I know you all wanted your own ally to win and I understand that. But give Elysium a break and the honour they deserve!

im very soory for u storebo that even u dont understand what made elysium such a great alliance. and its pretty sad so see what the 'new' ely HCs did with the alliance.

[The_Fish]

Nos/hirr... 2 alliances against 1... you may have finished above them, but you werent far ahead of ND before you recruited hirr, a bit of a shallow victory, like the Ely one, imo.

[TheACE]

congratz, i wont say more.

[Kal]

I looked at the pure NoS members count, we are above ND, but below Vision

ToT moves to 5th, Vision to 6th, and NoS becomes 7th.

however we allready have Dragons and Seraphim sharing a tag.

In essence NoS/hirr did work as a single alliance, we virtually allways shared def, planend attacks together. The only think that was not shared was the lemming run planning.

It is my hope that the relationship with hirr will conitnue into the future in some way or another.

[dabult]

Originally Posted by Naps

We fought a war with Vision and came out on top rankings wise <<<--
Er yeh but who asked for the ceasefire?
Who dropped all their innactives so in turn dropped below NoS/Hirr?

So tbh No you didnt win a war VS VisioN you begged for a ceasefire which the our HC gave you (me coughs *muppets*) and you carried on along your merry way while we, dropped all our innactives lost 10million + score + TONS of roids then we climbed our way back up and were catching you again.
Before we dropped our innactives we were infront of you so NO you didnt win the war. Think on

rolfmao


*hands over penny*
Now go get yourself a clue, third door on your right


*fluffles NoS*

[Colt]

Hmm, imo Eclipse, no mater how much i hate to say it, are the real 'winners' of the round, if you were going of alliances alone, but were not, so well played EET. Even though Elysium have recruited 20 or so FAnG ppl to reach nr1, they still had a fantastic round and deserved to be up there gunning for the top spot.

Also well played to the FAnG who i had the pleasure to work with this round, and the rounds previous, was a great game you played and i hope to see more of you in near future......

[The_Fish]

Originally Posted by KalVirtus

I looked at the pure NoS members count, we are above ND, but below Vision

ToT moves to 5th, Vision to 6th, and NoS becomes 7th.

however we allready have Dragons and Seraphim sharing a tag.

In essence NoS/hirr did work as a single alliance, we virtually allways shared def, planend attacks together. The only think that was not shared was the lemming run planning.

It is my hope that the relationship with hirr will conitnue into the future in some way or another.

Well done on your ranking, but the first 2 lines is what makes me think you shouldnt be too happy about it, even if you work together, you are still seperate alliances (like Dragons and Seraphim) and although it helps your defence together, its still not completely right that you are ranked above VisioN imo.

[evil one]

Congrats Ely, it's about time!