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Unread 25 May 2006, 11:40   #1
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lokken and his admins bs

lokken, whats with all this crap? you just love having the last word, don't you
You even play PA? Cause if you do, you shouldn't be allowed to be admin on these forums. And if you don't play wtf are you involving in PA politics?
Who are you playing for atm? Whos games you're making?
Just few questions for you to answer before getting the fck out of here.
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

This should have been a PM. If you have a problem with the moderators, take it to them privately so you can actually hope to achieve something, rather than just getting some bullshit posturing.

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I have pmed lokken on your behalf rain and in the meantime we'll all wait here in the eager anticipation of a new lover's arrival.
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I have pmed lokken on your behalf rain and in the meantime we'll all wait here in the eager anticipation of a new lover's arrival.
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the question wasn't really addressed to you, but thanks for replying
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the question wasn't really addressed to you, but thanks for replying
Maybe we should make a new forum where the forum moderators isnt heavily biased in every discussion.
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Maybe we should make a new forum where the forum moderators isnt heavily biased in every discussion.
Or we could like, you know, kill them if they express an opinion on something?

Wait, maybe that's too extreme. What if we just chop a hand off?
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

Make a HC only forum with reps from major alliances, heavily guarded by 3 mods or something and lets see constructive arguments regarding the political status
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

i go for an arm and a leg.
and yes, being a forum admin requires one to keep a neutral stand if he is personally involved in the dispute.
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

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Make a HC only forum with reps from major alliances, heavily guarded by 3 mods or something and lets see constructive arguments regarding the political status
Oh dear god are you serious?

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and yes, being a forum admin requires one to keep a neutral stand if he is personally involved in the dispute.
lokken is neither ND, omen, 1up, insomnia or angels this round. Or any of the t20 alliances for that matter. I'm unsure what you could mean by "personally involved" beyond having an opinion then. In which case where do you propose getting a mod with no opinions from?
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

I don't see why a forum moderator shouldn't be allowed to play PA. It's not like he's a multihunter that can affect peoples planets. Moderators are just keeping the forum clean and tidy, and also put their feets down on people who doesn't follow the rules/guidelines.

And as far as I know the moderators are allowed to have their own opinions just like other forum users. I don't think Lokken is biased or moderating in favour of his alliance at all as I've seen him critizing his alliance (or former alliance), like ND, on various occasions.
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

Am I the only one seeing the irony in rain whining about the thread being closed, when he specifically called for it to be closed?

That said, the 'mods are biased' whiners can shut up and **** off. It's much better to have moderators who care about the forum than mods who are just here to 'do a job'. I disagree with lokken's call on this one, but I think we should let him reply before we start talking about reorganizing the forum
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

i think he closed the thread immaturely but didn't you rain ask for it to be closed? irony is such a cutie!

also, i really don't see where lokken is biased either



edit: screw you and your quicker posting reactions jester
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Unread 25 May 2006, 12:40   #15
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

opinions are ok, repetitive opinions all aimed against a certain person or group of ppl are not cool
closing threads whenever you want for no reason or for certain reason except ones threads are suppose to be closed for, not cool also
we all have friends in PA, we all take a side now and then. It's normal for ppl, even admins to take a side, they're human too. Not taking a side is equal with not carrying. But ffs do NOT influence with your posts or admin powers politics in PA, even if you're not having any financial benefits out of this.
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I don't see why the thread was closed, but I don't care.
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

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opinions are ok, repetitive opinions all aimed against a certain person or group of ppl are not cool
The nature of an opinion is that it is repetitive.
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closing threads whenever you want for no reason or for certain reason except ones threads are suppose to be closed for, not cool also
As people have pointed out you asked for it to be closed.
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Moderators are free to post what they like. Moderating abilities are a different matter. And one which we're sitting here waiting over.
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i think he closed the thread immaturely but didn't you rain ask for it to be closed? irony is such a cutie!

also, i really don't see where lokken is biased either



edit: screw you and your quicker posting reactions jester
it was a figure of speach
but i shouldn't know much about this, my english skills are poor and everyone tells me that
i might not be able to face any of you big talkers from here in a discussion one on one, but i have the right to express my opinions from time to time I think
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

Forum rules say that you should keep IRC logs to 10 lines and if longer then have the log linked to an external site where people can read it

Might that be why it was closed?

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Re: lokken and his admins bs

I made an exception for the logs as they were highly relevant to the discussion. I presumed lokken did the same at the time.
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

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Maybe we should make a new forum where the forum moderators isnt heavily biased in every discussion.
I hope that sarcasm because if its not thats the most ridiculous and clueless statement you have ever made

In case its not I'll point out that EVERYONE has a bias on every subject. Every second we live we are being conditioned with bias with even things like where you live biasing your views. No matter how well you try and be unbiased your bias will effect your views and produce a slanted opinion. Even well respected news organisations like the BBC which prides itself on being balanced never acheives the feat of producing a new report thats bias free so how do you expect to find mods whom are able to be boas free
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

As lokken has said time and time again in previous threads, just because he can be biased in his posts does not make him biased in his modding. Obiously there will always be some element of bias, as wakey said, any person has bias, no matter how hard they try not to. I think lokken is objective in his modding as he can be and as far as I'm concerned he is a good mod who takes a very active role in the forum.

Whenever somebody makes a post like this it is simply because they can't accept that lokken as a poster and lokken as a moderator aren't the same.
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Re: lokken and his admins bs

Mods can post what they want, content-wise, the same as anyone else. There's times when I've wished certain mods hadn't made specific posts - but that's solely because the content of those posts isn't helpful to 1up.

Where I do have reserverations is when a Mod makes a lengthy post explaining their point of view on a specific issue then locks the thread so that they have the last word on a subject.
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I didn't close the thread
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So what your basically say is that I cant ever close a thread as even a post justifying a closure from me will be lengthy
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So what your basically say is that I cant ever close a thread as even a post justifying a closure from me will be lengthy
Err, no, that's not what he said at all.
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Who did?
I don't know - I arrived at college, looked at the forum, thought "why is this thread closed", read the thread of anger directed at me and left.

I don't see why I'd want the last word on that thread, it's not my business.

I've reopened it.

I'm confused.
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I didn't close the thread

Sorry to do this lokken but the thread log goes as follows

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You DID close it. Perhaps by mistake, I know ive clicked that close tickbox by mistake before but it was you
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Err, no, that's not what he said at all.
it was a light hearted comment, that wasnt supposed to be taken seriously. Admittedly my attempts at comedy are rarely successful but come on that was obvious I wasnt being serious. I even had a at the end of it
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It must have been accidental as i posted my stuff as I was just off to college at that point.

I have no idea how it happened, in all seriousness. There was no reason to close it, it was a good thread.

I certainly didn't use the scroll down menu on the top right, so I can only put it down to an accidental click at the bottom of the screen.
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Doh!
I've asked the powers that be for more space but I've been ignored thus far, I can't run AD and handle pm's with an inbox capacity of 80.

I'm still pretty confused and stunned that the thread was accidentally closed. I feel it's important that this one is discussed in the open, because it was honestly a mistake and bias/abuse of power is a clear issue here, I never close a thread without stone cold saying so and giving a reason, so I'm honestly confused.

Needless to say, I apologise for my error.
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can't believe it, some alliances dont ever change. why will u always fight for #2#3 ? you dont learn how 1up uses u each round?

not playing this round but atleast proud to see Omen going for #1 but i guess there is just too much 1up flak facing them (GO Noobdawn/insomnia)

atleast eXi knew to fight fire with fire, and thats a good way to trash 1up.

edit: its hilarious how older alliances as ND/insomnia cant keep up with new alliance and because of jealousy give up their round so the new alliance cant win. thats why u are considered flak
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I don't know, I come and see a thread randomly closed

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That's the point of AD. But abuse of power is a serious allegation and not acceptable.

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You even play PA?
I did until a week ago when PA started to stink.

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I have an opinion. I've been involved in ND politics before, but ever since I joined Ascendancy, they removed my access.

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Fine.

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Mods can post what they want, content-wise, the same as anyone else. There's times when I've wished certain mods hadn't made specific posts - but that's solely because the content of those posts isn't helpful to 1up.

Where I do have reserverations is when a Mod makes a lengthy post explaining their point of view on a specific issue then locks the thread so that they have the last word on a subject.
Can't disagree with a word of that.
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Awwww Max

Some of your planets get roided? Want me to pick the dummy up? I will, but only because you're so gosh-darn cute in that pink Minnie Mouse costume.
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I've asked the powers that be for more space but I've been ignored thus far, I can't run AD and handle pm's with an inbox capacity of 80.
You probally could, theres an export function in the messages section so you can easierly backup all those great complaints each day

ofc more space would be easier as I know that I always forget to backup mine and delete them on a regular basis
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Awwww Max

Some of your planets get roided? Want me to pick the dummy up? I will, but only because you're so gosh-darn cute in that pink Minnie Mouse costume.
i dont play this round so i dont talk from any alliance, i just say what i see.

i think Omen should be proud getting 3 top alliances that played several rounds against them. and being best alliance before that this round

damn u guys suck, thats why u whine always when eXi raped u
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i think Omen should be proud getting 3 top alliances that played several rounds against them.
Omen have been targetted 7 nights so far this round. If they were getting that many alliances against them properly, surely they would have got more nights than that, until they crumbled?

The main reason they got smashed yesterday was because they managed to piss off a lot of potential help. Sending 57 fleets at one planet in 2 days is not the best way to encourage that planet's alliance to help you win the round, for example.

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and being best alliance before that this round
Omen are nothing on 1up, militarily speaking, albeit very good at roid racing.

Of course, I may get proved wrong if Omen manage to defeat 1up, but in a 1 on 1 fight I doubt they'd be able to do it without significant backup.
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Omen have been targetted 7 nights so far this round.



Omen are nothing on 1up, militarily speaking, albeit very good at roid racing.

Of course, I may get proved wrong if Omen manage to defeat 1up, but in a 1 on 1 fight I doubt they'd be able to do it without significant backup.
aha and thats why your alliance are supporting 1up, because omen doesnt stand a chance alone
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good old max, spouting his usual dribble of senseless crap.
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It must have been accidental as i posted my stuff as I was just off to college at that point.
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Do you have cataracts perhaps? You know they can treat that now, right?

Also, why do you have [Omen] in your signature if you don't play for or have no affiliation with them?
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Do you have cataracts perhaps? You know they can treat that now, right?

Also, why do you have [Omen] in your signature if you don't play for or have no affiliation with them?
because he is a wannabee
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not playing for an alliance and no affiliation are two totally different things.
maxine's been omen since first round we came out in PIA
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not playing for an alliance and no affiliation are two totally different things.
maxine's been omen since first round we came out in PIA
mabey you guys should go back to the dusty shithole you came from then?
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achilles: you know nothing about Omen history, you just guess. noob
mek: atleast omen, an alliance from NOOB game pia owned your shit alliance that got raped rounds back, yes insomnia are always considered newbs that dont finnish a round. and you tell omen to leave pa just because they are 10times better then that shithole you call an alliance . again NOOB

edit: ive always loved to see this, pa alliances call them the best in netgaming, they call alliances from other games incompetent. wake up, you guys think too much of yourselfs. the only alliance in pax that are considered any good are 1up, and yes other alliances from shitgames as pia can own here. this game isnt so special

eXi prooved that alliances here are just much blabla, 2rounds 2 wins.
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Omen have been targetted 7 nights so far this round. If they were getting that many alliances against them properly, surely they would have got more nights than that, until they crumbled?

The main reason they got smashed yesterday was because they managed to piss off a lot of potential help. Sending 57 fleets at one planet in 2 days is not the best way to encourage that planet's alliance to help you win the round, for example.



Omen are nothing on 1up, militarily speaking, albeit very good at roid racing.

Of course, I may get proved wrong if Omen manage to defeat 1up, but in a 1 on 1 fight I doubt they'd be able to do it without significant backup.
lol dont act as a noob just cos you are one you got roided cos you was fat not cos you where you or nd for that matter

it was nd why tried to nail us in the first place now you guys kiss 1up ass hard so you might get a t3 spot there is something for the historybooks

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Re: lokken and his admins bs

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mabey you guys should go back to the dusty shithole you came from then?

well its fun to be cocky on forums isnt it?

if you guys brown noose sids ass a bit more he maybe let you get the #2 spot in allie rank in the end or backstab your sorry asses for fun as 1up/fury got a history to do

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Re: lokken and his admins bs

1up have a history of backstabbing people? A little less of the personal insults on both sides please guys.
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