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Unread 13 Nov 2003, 23:28   #1
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The absolute truth

At Tick 1346 xxxx launched 3375 Stalwarts against xxxxx
If you newscan xxxxx you will find this:
Launch 1346 The Tho Ki fleet has been launched, heading for xxxx, on a mission to Attack. Arrival tick: 1353
xxx has fleet analysis scans, which showed these incommings.

At tick 1350 a Cruiser-Counter attack got launched against xxxx with intention to make him recall his stalwarts. You again may newscan xxxxand will find these incommings at tick 1350:

Incoming 1350 We have detected an open jumpgate from Wind Riders, located at xxxx. The fleet will approach our system in tick 1357 and appears to have roughly 900 ships.
Incoming 1350 We have detected an open jumpgate from Redbull Forevah, located at xxxx The fleet will approach our system in tick 1357 and appears to have roughly 700 ships.
Incoming 1350 We have detected an open jumpgate from Fleet 1, located at xxxx. The fleet will approach our system in tick 1357 and appears to have roughly 525 ships.
Incoming 1350 We have detected an open jumpgate from Pacific, located at xxxx The fleet will approach our system in tick 1357 and appears to have roughly 2368 ships.


Although xxxx did not get any defence, he kept attacking xxxx and landed 1353. The battlereport showed this.

Whenxxxx`s stalwarts landed on xxx, the attacking cruiser-fleets were eta 4. A jump probe showed this. The only defender is xxxx ( terran )

To cap maximum roids, 2 of the attacking fleets got recalled. But the Battlereport from xxxat tick 1357 showed this

All stalwarts were at home 3 ticks faster then possible. Noone else could have sent these stalwarts, as the only defender was a terran. He as well could not have build these ships as a Unitscan would have shown 7k stalwarts afterwards.

This was possible due to a tool which enabled the user to recall fleets immeadtly back to his own planet. I wont explain in detail how it worked, but ticks got stopped and the problem fixed.
This is the only case with a complete chain of evidence until now.

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Unread 13 Nov 2003, 23:30   #2
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Re: The absolute truth

when i red the topic i expected that u wanna announce u r gay and about to marry webangel, and u wanted to invite the whole PA community for the marriage. free beer and cakes and chicks and and and......
but now another boring thread
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Re: The absolute truth

Leff, maybe you should add a link to the meeting with MrBrick, it contains much more information on what happened AND more important it shows what gits some people are.. bah..
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Re: The absolute truth

Posting evidence after the issue is resolved can also be known as milking it. Put the cow down Leff.
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Re: The absolute truth

Ok, nice story. But why post it? Bug already fixed and planet already closed. Did you actually add anything usefull?
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Re: The absolute truth

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Posting evidence after the issue is resolved can also be known as milking it. Put the cow down Leff.
not every1 knows the exact details of what has happened.

the community deserve to know, now they do.
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Re: The absolute truth

then next time he should tell real things , and not add untruthy things

thread still sucks, most ppl know what happened
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Re: The absolute truth

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Ok, nice story. But why post it? Bug already fixed and planet already closed. Did you actually add anything usefull?
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Unread 13 Nov 2003, 23:47   #9
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Re: The absolute truth

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then next time he should tell real things , and not add untruthy things
err, please be more specific.
It's all true what he wrote, simply because they're facts.
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Unread 13 Nov 2003, 23:50   #10
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Re: The absolute truth

This was possible due to a tool <- thats simply bullshit dear scorpio

and now end of discussion, poor rooting against an alliance
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Unread 13 Nov 2003, 23:59   #11
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Re: The absolute truth

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This was possible due to a tool <- thats simply bullshit dear scorpio

and now end of discussion, poor rooting against an alliance
I consider my browser to be a tool though
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Re: The absolute truth

Wakko, answere my pm
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oh sorry nitros
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Re: The absolute truth

To make a thread and write this:

This was possible due to a tool which enabled the user to recall fleets immeadtly back to his own planet. I wont explain in detail how it worked, but ticks got stopped and the problem fixed.
This is the only case with a complete chain of evidence until now.



and then this: No flaming please

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Re: The absolute truth

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This was possible due to a tool <- thats simply bullshit dear scorpio

and now end of discussion, poor rooting against an alliance
I asked Mrbrick before posting and promised not to post any logfiles.
4:9 is my galaxy and I had a long chat with walken today. Feel free to pm him, he will xplain exactly how it did work
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Re: The absolute truth

i know how it worked leff, no need to PM him, its a lie that u have to use a tool.
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Re: The absolute truth

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i know how it worked leff, no need to PM him, its a lie that u have to use a tool.
It worked as well with the "back" button, but walken told me in pm he used a tool.
Since I promised not to post any logfiles, you both will get it as pm...

I dont lie... take this for granted
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Re: The absolute truth

oh yeah, he used a 1337 tool which clicked two times on the "back" in a browser...
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Re: The absolute truth

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I dont lie... take this for granted
I allways think the best of ppl i dont know, no problem there..

heard about Killmark? thought so.. to mention the word tool and in the same time say this: I wont explain in detail how it worked and then finish it all of with: No flaming please - no disrespect, but thats just plain stupid.

(or a 'smart' move to create further badmouthing against a certain alliance, who knows)
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Re: The absolute truth

Reporting evidence about the bugs that were fixed should be done via either the support system on http://www.planetarion.com/index.php?module=support or via e-mail to [email protected] please.
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Re: The absolute truth

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not every1 knows the exact details of what has happened.

the community deserve to know, now they do.
Can't FAnG/Dragons instead of just posting a line or two from that pateam meeting just post the whole thing so we can make our own opinion about thoose posts and not just what Jurgen tells us to think?
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I asked Mrbrick before posting and promised not to post any logfiles.
xxxx is my galaxy and I had a long chat with walken today. Feel free to pm him, he will xplain exactly how it did work
He have explained how it worked.. what I'm curious about are thoose secret pateam meeting logs that Jurgen only posts sertain lines from all the time.
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Re: The absolute truth

You dont need a tool, but a tool was coded to do take advantage of it.

As for "the secret meeting" nip over to the thread Billy No Mates made on PD, I explained it there.
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The only absolute truth is that there are no absolute truths.
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Re: The absolute truth

You helped ruined xxx leff .... you and ur little dog too!

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