Who puts up with this?

[[DDK]gm]

maybe it just shows how out of touch you are with YOUR alliance

[Jezz84]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

[01:44] <[DDK]gm> atm afaik its dragons vision seriphim??
[01:45] <Kjeldoran> you named em
[01:45] <[DDK]gm> k
[01:45] <Kjeldoran> eventhough I don't mind hitting seraphim
[01:45] <Kjeldoran> but try to avoid em for now heh
[01:46] <[DDK]gm> k

ROFL that ought to spice this thread up a bit

[SystemShock]

Originally Posted by Mikee

PLD "Marajade" hi berten , and tomkat by playing ******** with you and watching you "move" your planet to a more active gal just to be no.1 (even tho u still failed ) ive realised you really have NO SENSE of loyalty /me wonders how u got to officer in Eclipse , hehe funny how these DDK peons are sucking up to their so called "superiors"

Loyalty, you? ha!
You aren't any better than a pe0n in FAnG, Mikee.
Where in this thread do you see 'sucking upto superiors'?

P.S. Trolls aren't good for the boards but neither are pe0ns like you posting just for the heck of it.

[SystemShock]

Originally Posted by berten

yey

i've used escorts for 5 rounds now
hence why i like managed to have over 1k roids 1 of these rounds.

my fleet > entire dragons, hence it'll not die even if it saves a million other ships

this is an official Dragons statement

and yes fs i'm being sarcastic


Berten

Happily 'retired'

Care to make another official statement about how DaKing instructed Dragons members not to report incs at Eclipse planets?

[virogenesis]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

A question to Fang and Dragons members:

Do you all have so little skill you aren't even playing for yourselves anymore?



Pretty crappy tactics that you simply all send out your ships as escorts for your big planets.
I know the members in Eclipse wouldn't stand for it for long, as most of them do have minds of their own and alongside wanting Eclipse to win, are well aware of their own skill. Being told where to launch, clicking launch, then waiting to be given further orders must be real hard.

I for one can't see much difference between LDK tactics of using escorts, and the Fang/Dragons officers simply telling people where, and how much to click, to get themselves more roids. These cog-in-the-wheel members are effectively bots, as they don't answer back, and do exactly what you tell them to do.

I'd like to hear some Fang member's retorts. Are you really this mindless?

1. the way pa used to be played....a bc used to do most of the work....which is the case in this event.......(trust)
2. the way the members put trust....in the bcs is quite amazing....(good teamwork)
3. mixing races up & getting a better calc is better than members gettig no roids.....at all...(organished)
4. when a country goes to war do they let the soilders decide....no...they get given orders & in this case the FAnG members do as they are told which shows..... (great loyality)
5. do you want to say Eclipse anymore....?
6. you trying to recruit some FAnG members as this is what this thread looks like...?

[LEFF|pm]

Could we please stop these puerilities now ?

TomKats approaches are not worth the effort of a replay and DDK leaving FAnG has been discussed enough and to spare.
They left FAnG and will not be FAnG ever again.
I dont see any more reasons to make fools of ourselves.

End of discussion please

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

maybe it just shows how out of touch you are with YOUR alliance

usefull isn't it, you picked one of the few logs I didn't refer you to ask LEFF. I do know I told you that several times. And tbh, to break that illusion of yours, DDK wasn't the best BG in FAnG, never was and now you're gone we can hopefully build on something decent again.

Ohhh and, wonder why we never trusted you with arbiter access ... I'm actually glad we never did cause you'd have screwed us over nway.

I asked for meeting, to listen to your issues, to try and solve them but you were the prototype of a loyal member. You said, no meeting, I give up, bye ...

Imo you, luckily, never were never will be a FAnGer.

rgds Kj

[I am Idler]

its really the members responsibility to cope with the standards and rules set by the HC/officer team..

I do not know what has happened since I was a BC in fang a round or two ago.. ( a short while tho, as I lost my internet..again )

but everything worked smoothly then and I cant really understand that anything has changed.. so all in all it sounds like "certain" members, (hi gm) got no decend patience to build on.. so I guess FAnG should be glad to get rid of you and your whiny-like attitude..

(I havent read everything posted here, but I have made up a certain impression..

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

...

Ohh and, a last thing I wanted to add.

I honnestly thought I'd miss you and I'd feel it as a great loss to FAnG. Yet these past days learned me that you aren't. We infact are doin better again (on many fronts) as a week ago.
Infact if I'd miss someone that left, it would be Sven cause I might have threated him unfairly and he proved a long time ago that he once was a true FAnGer.

btw, plz don't join #fang, you're not welcome there.

rgds Kj

[[DDK]gm]

KJ please dont lie, you NEVER EVER told me to speek to leff. DDK wasnt the best BG in fang and I never said we were.

Idler FAnG changed a lot since you were there and you dont know the full story, Patience is something I had a hell of a lot of. Officers were treating the members like crap and there was no orginisation in fang and HC were inactive. I tried to address problems in fang, discussions with other officers on some issues work being productive untill KJ burst in and started slagging sickdeath to hell.

if you think it is just me then you are wrong, 8 fang members left when I left, 5 were DDK bg members, a lot stayed behind and are trying to force changes in fang.

"Ohhh and, wonder why we never trusted you with arbiter access ... I'm actually glad we never did cause you'd have screwed us over nway."

I have never given the intel sheet or fang member list to ecl or any other alliance, I didnt need a fang arbiter as I have the ingame one, what I needed was to know was where our enemys where.

with reguards to the meeting, I wanted a meeting with you irvine benneton and slash and you said that wouldnt be possable and I tbh it was too late for to change our minds about leaving, I spoke to you in length about the problems with fang but you would not accept them. you need to listen to your members more or they will revolt.. and that is getting rather close.

[[DDK]gm]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

Ohh and, a last thing I wanted to add.

I honnestly thought I'd miss you and I'd feel it as a great loss to FAnG. Yet these past days learned me that you aren't. We infact are doin better again (on many fronts) as a week ago.
Infact if I'd miss someone that left, it would be Sven cause I might have threated him unfairly and he proved a long time ago that he once was a true FAnGer.

btw, plz don't join #fang, you're not welcome there.

rgds Kj

It was your and ronnies treatment of Sven that finaly made us decide to quit, calling Sven a "Spying B******" and accusing him of destroying fang was too much, he didnt deserve any of the treatment he got and neither did any of the other fangers that had abuse from FAnG command.

[[DDK]gm]

tbh I would never have said any more after I left an I certanly would never have come onto AD but your post on AD disgusted me.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

tbh I would never have said any more after I left an I certanly would never have come onto AD but your post on AD disgusted me.

you're mixing a few things up. First of all, do you actually know who Sick^Death is? Doubt it cause I never yelled at him and infact I was the HC that stood up for him every damn time when there was some sort of incident. If he reads this he'd call you a plain liar.

And, you 100% sure you state that I didn't refer you to leff for that list? I can post the log here and proof it's an utter lie.

About that meeting, I told you what times I could attend it, at some point I even asked if we could held it now, yet you said no. Fact that you made up your mind before about leaving, proves what a unloyal member you always were. You're like Glimmer, the one jumping to Virus r7 to protect his roids.
No infact, you're worse, he atleast had a motive, you just gave up during hard times. I only received 1-2 pm's of complaints from you, you've NEVER given the impression to work on things.
Did you forget that I protected Jezz after what he pulled with Lockhead and his galaxy, telling lock that the FAnG attack on him was FAKE so eclipse didn't need to defend? ANY normal alliance would have kicked such pple, I didn't (partly because Lockhead asked me not to).

Infact; the majority in FAnG is happy that you, sven and jezz left. I know that's probably hard to believe but it's the truth. Those still remaining are free to leave when they don't like it, I' m not forcing anyone to stay.

Fact is, you left before you gave us a chance to act, and for that you are the very reason why FAnG had some issues. If you could have acted like a NORMAL member and not giving up so soon, none of this would have happened.

One last thing, YOU started this shit on AD about us. YOU started insulting fang in #fang, YOU did that in other channels.
Realise this, you care more about leaving fang then we care that you left ...

rgds Kj

[The_Fish]

don't bring Glimmer into this

he rules

[[DDK]gm]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

you're mixing a few things up. First of all, do you actually know who Sick^Death is? Doubt it cause I never yelled at him and infact I was the HC that stood up for him every damn time when there was some sort of incident. If he reads this he'd call you a plain liar.

Where did I say you yelled at Sickdeath????

[Jezz84]

blah blah KJ u do talk some utter bollox
how the flying fck are we the unloyal ones?? weve been fang since it opened where as u jumped ship as soon as things got difficult u now come back and call us unloyal pfft
myself personally had about 20 complaints about sick^death yet nothing was done about it LB was the only one trying to keep us in fang while everyone else just carried on with the usual abuse
and tbh im bored of all this crap now yes we left yes we joined eclipse and yes the fang from past rounds is dead good luck and i hope u do manage to sort things out

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

Where did I say you yelled at Sickdeath????

untill KJ burst in and started slagging sickdeath to hell

there you go, rgds Kj

[Jezz84]

that was my final piece on teh whole situation im bored of disccussing wot ddk did or didnt do but i dont like being called disloyal but neway fck it lets get on with the JoV

[[DDK]gm]

I was about to rumad, but first I will point out I said "slagging sickdeath to hell" not "yelled at"

Good luck WA in sorting out fang, it has some great people in it and I just hope kj learns from this and starts to listen to the members, read things and reply without twisting everything out of context.

PA without politics would be soo nice :P

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Rumad

good man

KJ keep your mouth shut its over (please!)

Gm - stay away from this thread please

/me hugs his mates

Jezzeh pm on the boards

[Remy]

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Its FanG joo cluelss turd!!!!!!!!!

Lol, isnt it FAnG ?

im not even a member and i know that

[Scorpio]

for i'm a jolly good fellooooooooooooowwww
which nobody can deny

[Nadar]

I don't mind sending my ships as "escorts" as long as another member gains from it.. wouldn't do it for a top10 member tho as he can easily get them himself..

[Mikee]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

Bots? Where has anyone accused you of using bots? You're denying things we haven't even brought up. Little hasty there, aren't we?




There wasn't an escort where? You are speaking as if I am talking about a certain attack, in which you are hastily denying any escort. I'm speaking generally, as a tactic.




Being Attack and Defence officer of Eclipse, your main enemy, I think I do. If this is going to become a battle of "how much I know" vs "how much do you know", how are you handling our new HC, Lockhead? Oh.... wait. Heh.


What has this to do with my thread Mikee?
1. I am loyal to the last ship to my alliance. I would gladly lose my entire fleet if I thought it would benefit Eclipse.
2. Me being no.1? This will have been when I sent my fleets out to suicide on someone, then went into vacation mode for the next 5 days while I was away? Yep, thought so.
3. Why am I officer in Eclipse? Well I guess you had better ask the:
a. Fang/Dragons members I have organised teamups on and destroyed.
b. Eclipse members I have sorted defence for.
c. Eclipse members (95% of them) I have sorted attacks for.

Aren't you the guy who got banned from #fang because noone liked you, and left Eclipse because of arrogance, then got decimated by them?
******** isn't Planetarion.
PS: How's the planet.

my planets pretty good now that you mention it lets see how long and how well yours holds out

[Waku]

we are better off without those DDK suckers leaving FAnG and joining Eclipse I hope they burn in hell

[Jezz84]

waku shut the **** up

[ComradeRob]

That would be good advice for pretty much everyone posting on this thread.

[Jezz84]

i thought so

[OlaTa]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

and the Fang/Dragons officers simply telling people where, and how much to click, to get themselves more roids.

We are ... hum, why is my roidhistory a stright line then ?

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by OlaTa

We are ... hum, why is my roidhistory a stright line then ?

Um, that's not exactly something to be that proud of in this game, unless you're some form of scan-planet.

[OlaTa]

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood

Um, that's not exactly something to be that proud of in this game, unless you're some form of scan-planet.

yeah scan planet with 20 amps ... i only scan for my self, and if someone asks.
My reason is, that i attack like moust of Šragons alone at 1 target (or team up ... depends what size target is) and have to recall due defence :/

[Jackal2112]

Originally Posted by Tomkat

I'd like to hear some Fang member's retorts. Are you really this mindless?

What kind of drugs are you taking Tomtwat?

I have been FAnG member for about a month now and I have not seen any of these escort strategies being used, nor members being forced to launch on targets assigned to them by BC's. I think you are really grasping at straws here and will make up any stupid made up excuse to try and flame your opponents. Grow up.

[Foxman]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

Fang dont orginise raids, the battlegroups do, and sometimes if they are lucky they get a target from fang, all they have/had to work with is 2 month old intel sheets that are tbh worthless.

PS. I do have the slightest knowledge about FAnG attacks. :P

loyality is so overrated...

[Scorpio]

Originally Posted by Remy

Lol, isnt it FAnG ?

im not even a member and i know that

try to make use of the pre-made quote functions, instead of making one up yourself.

[xtothez]

Originally Posted by Jackal2112

What kind of drugs are you taking Tomtwat?

I have been FAnG member for about a month now and I have not seen ... members being forced to launch on targets assigned to them by BC's.

* [BC]Kaifux changes topic to 'Tommorow - FLEETS GROUNDED!!! - NO ATTACKING WITHOUT ORDERS, ELSE YOU'LL BE KICKED/ROIDED/BASHED

[SystemShock]

Originally Posted by Jackal2112

What kind of drugs are you taking Tomtwat?

I have been FAnG member for about a month now and I have not seen any of these escort strategies being used, nor members being forced to launch on targets assigned to them by BC's. I think you are really grasping at straws here and will make up any stupid made up excuse to try and flame your opponents. Grow up.

Which BG are you in? (I'm assuming not the LDK BG.)

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by xtothez

* [BC]Kaifux changes topic to 'Tommorow - FLEETS GROUNDED!!! - NO ATTACKING WITHOUT ORDERS, ELSE YOU'LL BE KICKED/ROIDED/BASHED

lol, I know, it might sound shocking to you Xto, worlds most famous and most expirienced MO, but sometimes, HC's or MO's decide to ground fleet because they have prepared a major attack.

Reread it 3 times so you can actually understand and remember it, now let's move on to a more advanced stage ...

Nobody is forced to attack here, to the eye of spies it obvious looks like they are, but it's a simple way of saying that the attacks on that night will be priority, which means the BG's don't do attacks cause we set up a special raid. Again, not a SINGLE member gets forced to launch his fleets or to escort or any of the lame accusations Tomkat made up.

btw funny, eclipse screws up on AD, ely jumps to help em out. Nice one Xto

and before you wanna post an stupid reply/quote, again I must mention that nobody is FORCED to LAUNCH, as that's what you quoted from Jackal, which now proves how stupid that reply of you was in the first place.

off to bed now, rgds Kj

[xtothez]

Originally Posted by xtothez

* [BC]Kaifux changes topic to 'Tommorow - FLEETS GROUNDED!!! - NO ATTACKING WITHOUT ORDERS, ELSE YOU'LL BE KICKED/ROIDED/BASHED

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by xtothez

...

what, are you really blind? NOT ATTACKING (which means you cannot be forced to attack) MEANS NO ATTACKING. IF you don't attack, you won't get kicked or anything. The point here is, FAnG does NOT force it's members to attack or to escort. That was the point of this thread, that's what I'm answering.

Btw, are you and ely really such noobs, that you've NEVER grounded fleets and ordered your members to launch on a special raid?

off for real now, rgds Kj

[G.K Zhukov]

sorry XotheZ, but your "intel" doesnt really prove anything specific.

[xtothez]

I'll be damned if I post a longwinded, serious reply in a thread like this. One line is all you get, mates.

[JonnyBGood]

Originally Posted by xtothez

* [BC]Kaifux changes topic to 'Tommorow - FLEETS GROUNDED!!! - NO ATTACKING WITHOUT ORDERS, ELSE YOU'LL BE KICKED/ROIDED/BASHED

There's no "you must launch when you're ordered" statement there dude. Of course it's possible to infer that people will be forced to launch but there's no direct implication inherent. Being kicked/roided/bashed for launching without orders!=being kicked/roided/bashed for not launching. Of course I severely hope FAnG do follow the strategy you inferred as PAX needs a higher ratio of decisive battles to affect the the current war. (Damn I was too late with the serious reply )

[Scorpio]

Originally Posted by xtothez

* [BC]Kaifux changes topic to 'Tommorow - FLEETS GROUNDED!!! - NO ATTACKING WITHOUT ORDERS, ELSE YOU'LL BE KICKED/ROIDED/BASHED

nice, really nice.
what's your point?
it doesnt say anything about forced targets etc

[Scorpio]

Originally Posted by SystemShock

Which BG are you in? (I'm assuming not the LDK BG.)

I am. No forced target-picking there. No forced escorts or whatsoever. All voluntarily.

nqp

[Purm]

Originally Posted by [DDK]gm

Attacks are not the reason we left so pls stop spreading lies.

People left because they couldn't work some other people and left alot of their friends in Fang, u shouldn't have left gm! And specially not for eclipse.
Bah, you dissapointed me by doing that . Same goes for the others :/.
Anyways, I'm still there fighting for my friends, the people who fought for me too this round....What ever happens in FAnG or I'll stick to the people there. Although I don't like some things that are done offcourse, but we are making a change atm .
No you all stop bitching and get a life .

[Guran]

Kjeldoran: you talk too much..

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by xtothez

I'll be damned if I post a longwinded, serious reply in a thread like this. One line is all you get, mates.

ofc, since you already realized that quote of a channel topic was close to being rediculous ...

rgds Kj

[xtothez]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

ofc, since you already realized that quote of a channel topic was close to being rediculous ...

rgds Kj

No, I realised replying with more than a line to an AD post is ridiculous.

[Mikee]

Originally Posted by SystemShock

Care to make another official statement about how DaKing instructed Dragons members not to report incs at Eclipse planets?

care to make a statment about how an Eclipse HC lied and tricked his members into believing their FAnG gal m8 had them set up with incs, then watched as they "backstabbed" a certain member of their gal ? watch out gm and Jezz u could be next...............

altho not a very surprising situation since Eclipse are known as backstabbers hey maybe you should change ur alliance name to [BackStabbers]

[ComradeRob]

Originally Posted by Mikee

altho not a very surprising situation since Eclipse are known as backstabbers hey maybe you should change ur alliance name to [BackStabbers]

Oh, the wit!