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Unread 24 Oct 2003, 16:40   #1
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FAnG behaviour

normally its not my thing to post such storys on ADs, but there is just a small story I want to tell you.
yesterday a top200 FAnG member had incs, heavy inc and one of our members defended him ingal, at least in this wave he was safe with the ingal defence. then when attack was eta1 we noticed our member in that gal got FAnG incs...
FAnG what did you try? counter your own defenders?? lol
(Hi LEFF )
anyway, I ordered my member to recall his ingal defence, we defended him and the FAnG member got owned.

Well done, congrats goes to FAnG HC.
happy flaming.
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LOL
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Oops, hehe long day at the uni

Now i've read it again: I've seen more cunning strategies this round
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Im still not quite sure what this has to do with Politics though.

Admittidly if what you say is true then it is a balls up for FAnG, but what exactly does this have to do with politics?
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Unread 25 Oct 2003, 01:14   #12
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Re: FAnG politics

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Im still not quite sure what this has to do with Politics though.

Admittidly if what you say is true then it is a balls up for FAnG, but what exactly does this have to do with politics?
you re right man, I renamed the thread.
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Unread 25 Oct 2003, 01:15   #13
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Re: FAnG politics

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Im still not quite sure what this has to do with Politics though.

Admittidly if what you say is true then it is a balls up for FAnG, but what exactly does this have to do with politics?
I think he was more referring about fangs policy of threating "neutral" or atleast "supportive" galm8s with a counter.
Infact someone defending his enemy vs friends and getting then incomings from friends of this enemy himself is quiet an amuseing thing to see.
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Unread 25 Oct 2003, 02:38   #14
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I think he was more referring about fangs policy of threating "neutral" or atleast "supportive" galm8s with a counter.
Infact someone defending his enemy vs friends and getting then incomings from friends of this enemy himself is quiet an amuseing thing to see.
kinda like what eclipse did to me during r9 when I was defending lockhead

though I must admit, I'm not too happy about this incident ... but like morden said, no big deal really.

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Unread 25 Oct 2003, 02:52   #15
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kinda like what eclipse did to me during r9 when I was defending lockhead

though I must admit, I'm not too happy about this incident ... but like morden said, no big deal really.

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Apart from the facts that you werent in his gal, that you werent "countered" in the same night and that your galaxy was hit because they were hostile in the first place and you were hit because you defended ingal vs us- you could compare it i guess. Like you could compare any attack launched on someone who has ever defended a personal friend in another alliance and has one day incomings from them with it

The only amuseing part was that fang didnt hit the galaxy but countered the single dude who was helping you with what intention or logic behind them seems abit unknown

nevertheless funny.
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Unread 25 Oct 2003, 04:04   #16
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Re: FAnG behaviour

now focht i find one thing funny sonnenbomber made one post, put one thing up which surely isnt a thing which fang is to be proud of if it is true (which i dont know), now what exactly is it you got to do with it?

Cos if i see correctly sonnenbomber hasnt posted again while youre going for his points violently and im not seing it somewhere in his post that only the tot galmate was attacked, but i guess you have special knowledge bout this incident which i dont have...
So go on and embarasse fang as much as possible as youre trying in every post you make.

But be honest with me do you keep track of every planet who defends a planet of eclipse? Do you even notice the coords? Maybe you do, but im pretty sure you wont note down their coords on an not to attack list...

If your dc do that youll be protected from such failures, but in the hurl of things i cant believe your dc are caring to note down coords of out of ally defenders. as not many eet have defended fang this round something like this would have been pretty useless. so if one single tot defender now got attacked and noticed exactly at eta 1 that attacker was fang its unlucky but not much more and nothing which couldnt happen to your alliance too...

just a peons view btw...
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chill dude
stuff happens.
it happens to all of us, and i haven't seen anyone flame fang for the incident.
it's sort of like when your friend falls off his bike. (not seriously hurt ofc) and you laugh at him. it's ok cause you know he'd laugh at you if you did the same thing
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I think he was more referring about fangs policy of threating "neutral" or atleast "supportive" galm8s with a counter.
Infact someone defending his enemy vs friends and getting then incomings from friends of this enemy himself is quiet an amuseing thing to see.
We only do that to people who were attacking us elsewhere.

And you of all people should know how much defence and attack calls get sent that it is next to impossible to keep everything lined up and neat.

Though I will take the liberty of splashing any minor mistake which most alliances do on a daily basis for your enjoyment, afterall Ive seen things which the EET block have done that have made my belly ripple with laughter, so I think its time to start sharing that, fighting fire with fire seems to be the thing to do these days.
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Apart from the facts that you werent in his gal, that you werent "countered" in the same night and that your galaxy was hit because they were hostile in the first place and you were hit because you defended ingal vs us- you could compare it i guess. Like you could compare any attack launched on someone who has ever defended a personal friend in another alliance and has one day incomings from them with it

The only amuseing part was that fang didnt hit the galaxy but countered the single dude who was helping you with what intention or logic behind them seems abit unknown

nevertheless funny.

A whole 3 hostile planets in Kj's gal during r9 :s
Eclipse was the first to attack our galaxy, Kj immediately getting hit.
Ok, Kj had defended Lockhead 3 or 4 times, and then got attacked.


Still a weird thing what happened now though.
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Apart from the facts that you werent in his gal, that you werent "countered" in the same night and that your galaxy was hit because they were hostile in the first place and you were hit because you defended ingal vs us- you could compare it i guess. Like you could compare any attack launched on someone who has ever defended a personal friend in another alliance and has one day incomings from them with it

The only amuseing part was that fang didnt hit the galaxy but countered the single dude who was helping you with what intention or logic behind them seems abit unknown

nevertheless funny.
mmm, first of all, my galaxy was not hostile. 2nd of all, I think I defended more eclipse that round then any other non eclipse member. Ask QD and Lockhead and a few others howmuch I helped them when needed.
And my planet got wasted, as in more then 10 attack on me in 2 days.
But it's all past now, I just wanted to show you that such actions have been taken even by your own alliance.
Nonetheless it's a regretable action and shouldn't have happened but it's too late to whine about that so ...

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Im still not quite sure what this has to do with Politics though.

Admittidly if what you say is true then it is a balls up for FAnG, but what exactly does this have to do with politics?
EVERYTHING has to do with politics. All interactions between intelligent beings involve politics on some level. So, yeah, I suppose you are right, if it is interactions between intelligent beings, judging by the above, then Fang doesn't do politics.
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EVERYTHING has to do with politics. All interactions between intelligent beings involve politics on some level. So, yeah, I suppose you are right, if it is interactions between intelligent beings, judging by the above, then Fang doesn't do politics.
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Why did this turn into a serious thread?

It was a piece of comedy fs :P
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now focht i find one thing funny sonnenbomber made one post, put one thing up which surely isnt a thing which fang is to be proud of if it is true (which i dont know), now what exactly is it you got to do with it?

Cos if i see correctly sonnenbomber hasnt posted again while youre going for his points violently and im not seing it somewhere in his post that only the tot galmate was attacked, but i guess you have special knowledge bout this incident which i dont have...
So go on and embarasse fang as much as possible as youre trying in every post you make.

But be honest with me do you keep track of every planet who defends a planet of eclipse? Do you even notice the coords? Maybe you do, but im pretty sure you wont note down their coords on an not to attack list...

If your dc do that youll be protected from such failures, but in the hurl of things i cant believe your dc are caring to note down coords of out of ally defenders. as not many eet have defended fang this round something like this would have been pretty useless. so if one single tot defender now got attacked and noticed exactly at eta 1 that attacker was fang its unlucky but not much more and nothing which couldnt happen to your alliance too...

just a peons view btw...
i posted twice, once regarding the issue and once regarding a reply of KJ towards my original post to correct some wrong facts in his reply. And youre right our bc's note down hostile coords and infact due to the impossibility of defending friends outside the galaxy its unlikely that we would hit such a friend. About ingal friends i can only say we usually tend not to hit the same gals as the enemy at the same time especially not if scans show they are defending our member (in this case clearly the cause since fang only hitted this single planet)

P.S. apart from that this thread was under the impression of "comedy" and in regards to KJ, prolly he got simply attacked because he is KJ not like he is everyones favourite
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Thouché ...

I hate to admit it but that's probably a good explanation why I got hit back then. Though, you as eclipse exec, surely must admit (and I think you did back then when we still talked in pm etc) that such action wasn't really the best action to take towards a planet that helped eclipse alot (which eventually got me kicked from ely).

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Re: FAnG behaviour

Aryn is wrong.

Nobody should chill here.

The AD boards are rarely worth reading for actual Alliance-indepth conversation. Well, we have something "like" it here. More like than in a while.

Let's all just chill and not flame each other about alliances?
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Unread 25 Oct 2003, 16:36   #29
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Re: FAnG behaviour

But the flaming is the only thing that makes these boards worth reading The rampant stupidity is far more valuable for its comedy than the so called 'chilled' 'discussions' which lack any relation to actual fact, and mostly consist of Mr. Newb telling us about the grand exploits of his 6 person alliance that successfully retaled a person who hasnt played in three weeks.

I for one, wholeheartedly support flaming.

Bring it, you dirty smelly Fangs, etc!

Feel meh Fury you cheeky #@$%s!!

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Bad practice to attack those who help you - although not necessary. After all, we don't force them to help us.

I do believe Fury tried to not attack planets which were 'friendly' in an unofficial light, but could not guarantee safety since such "friendlies" are not in arbiters.

I know I dealt with a few cases of "can you get member x to recall from planet r:t:z because r:t:z is my friend." and they ended up as a no depending on some factors. Executive never promised anything to those "friends".

Example:

I once had one of my friends attacked by Fury whilst I was an Executive. I contacted the Fury member responsible and asked for him to recall. (I did not order him to recall.) The Fury member recalled out of goodwill.

I have no idea why I wrote all of this. I must be bored.
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[quote=Sonnenbomber]*some ToT attempt to put eyes away from ToT's pretty sucky round*[quote]

Now, such things happen, but yet you cannot kill my planet? hrhr ... 27 ToT waves within 72 hours, and all I lost was 400 roids which I gained back in the next 72 ticks ... pld ToT. Even with your shitload of acc sharing you cannot own on attacks
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[quote=Heartless][quote=Sonnenbomber]*some ToT attempt to put eyes away from ToT's pretty sucky round*
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Now, such things happen, but yet you cannot kill my planet? hrhr ... 27 ToT waves within 72 hours, and all I lost was 400 roids which I gained back in the next 72 ticks ... pld ToT. Even with your shitload of acc sharing you cannot own on attacks
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Always thought I was a spy?
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Now, such things happen, but yet you cannot kill my planet? hrhr ... 27 ToT waves within 72 hours, and all I lost was 400 roids which I gained back in the next 72 ticks ... pld ToT. Even with your shitload of acc sharing you cannot own on attacks

27 waves in 72h ???

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normally its not my thing to post such storys on ADs << didnt you post the attempted roiding of sliekas on here, when you got owned?
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FAng SuXoRs so hard!!! You guys stink. I attacked HC myself and he got no defense.... HAHAHAHA


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normally its not my thing to post such storys on ADs, but there is just a small story I want to tell you.
yesterday a top200 FAnG member had incs, heavy inc and one of our members defended him ingal, at least in this wave he was safe with the ingal defence. then when attack was eta1 we noticed our member in that gal got FAnG incs...
FAnG what did you try? counter your own defenders?? lol
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anyway, I ordered my member to recall his ingal defence, we defended him and the FAnG member got owned.

Well done, congrats goes to FAnG HC.
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indeed, we all know that if you take roids from the HC of a alliance u clearly have beaten the alliance and pwn etc
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If you have any clue to the rich history of PA, you wouldn't be so sarcastic.
point is, what alliance can claim to have all his HC's protected and not even roided once. I mean an HC is just another member, ofc it's a moral boost if you could kill an HC but those boosts won't make you win a round. You get alot more pleasure in killing a top planet instead of an HC.

This thread is just hilarious, every alliance does a ****-up now and then, but not every HC runs to AD to scream about it. Infact I think they have a harder time living with it then we have

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being able to attack a hc just means you have finally figured out the simple mathematical skills required to beat everyone.

its not a victory though.

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its not a victory though.

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point is, what alliance can claim to have all his HC's protected and not even roided once. I mean an HC is just another member, ofc it's a moral boost if you could kill an HC but those boosts won't make you win a round. You get alot more pleasure in killing a top planet instead of an HC.

This thread is just hilarious, every alliance does a ****-up now and then, but not every HC runs to AD to scream about it. Infact I think they have a harder time living with it then we have

nice to hear from you again though, zhil

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There were exceptions to this. That line of thinking only really applies in the later rounds when HCs were not necessarily the big planets.

Killing one planet never wins a war, whether it is a top planet, a HC or just a normal member. My comment was only to bring into debate the fact that HC killing was something more important in earlier rounds.
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My comment was only to bring into debate the fact that HC killing was something more important in earlier rounds.
I agree to that point. My remark was mainly meant at 2 things, which was a: why this thread got made, kinda rediculous and b: dunno who anymore being proud cause he roided an HC, which these days you need to be a complete retard if couldn't.
In this round everyone can be roided period, just depends howlong and hard you try.

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