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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 17:58   #51
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I got logs and screenshots of that :P

Infact got a bunch more, altough deleted most of them as they were getting rather huge (log dir of 400 mb+ heh).
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 18:04   #52
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Based on the info Elysium HC had at that point of time, I think that 'mistake' would be done by any wise executive. Just the thought of allying with nos that didn't respect Elysium at all, made me chuckle (all offense). Personally I think the HCs did a perfect pick
Indeed... Xanadu said NoS/Cell had given us a nap.. But NoS still where attacking us. Cell held their agreement tho.. And I remember Koloth where asking us all in command about the ways to go... and logs with the heads of the 2 factions was presented in command boards. I loved Ely command back then. It was so pure.. it was 100% trusted. A community within Elysium.
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 18:57   #53
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Indeed... Xanadu said NoS/Cell had given us a nap.. But NoS still where attacking us. Cell held their agreement tho.. And I remember Koloth where asking us all in command about the ways to go... and logs with the heads of the 2 factions was presented in command boards. I loved Ely command back then. It was so pure.. it was 100% trusted. A community within Elysium.
plain wrong as ever my dear friend
we only said that NoS/CELL gave US a nap

but ur statement bout ely command is right, they were a bunch of dedicated ppl (unlike the other ally of Xan at that time *hint hint*)
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 20:26   #54
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after reading the log, I just got one question really..

who gave scorpio and atul command postions??????!?!?!
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 21:30   #55
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after reading the log, I just got one question really..

who gave scorpio and atul command postions??????!?!?!
after reading your posts, I just got one question really..

who gave birth to zhukov??????!?!?!
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 21:39   #56
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after reading your posts, I just got one question really..

who gave birth to zhukov??????!?!?!
my parents?
Didnt they teach you ANYTHING at school?
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 21:45   #57
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after reading the log, I just got one question really..

who gave scorpio and atul command postions??????!?!?!
my HC?
Didnt they teach you ANYTHING at Planetarion?
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Unread 3 Jan 2003, 23:00   #58
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plain wrong as ever my dear friend
we only said that NoS/CELL gave US a nap
Then why did Cell respect a non-existing nap? I think there were quite a few nos'ers who thought we had a nap too(?). Hopefully none of the responsible executives will ever apply for journalism

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but ur statement bout ely command is right, they were a bunch of dedicated ppl (unlike the other ally of Xan at that time *hint hint*)
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Unread 4 Jan 2003, 02:06   #59
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my HC?
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duh, I want specific names... you dont get ANYTHING do you

anyways, it was a retorical question..
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plain wrong as ever my dear friend
we only said that NoS/CELL gave US a nap

but ur statement bout ely command is right, they were a bunch of dedicated ppl (unlike the other ally of Xan at that time *hint hint*)
Seriously... Cell at that time put up an announcement where they stated NoS/Cell had given Elysium a nap.. I posted that one in a thread back then... Cell hc stoped posting on boards then. But I went talking to cell hc in pm then... think it was lockhead... maybe i find the old logs. And as I understod it Xanadu managed to have NoS/Cell give us a nap while we decided if we where to join Xanadu or Legion for round 5.

And there was an announcement from NoS about this once aswell... but that one disapeared before we got evidence of it... got the Cell one tho... It is very clear... "NoS and Cell are now napped with Elysium"

But ofcourse neither Xanadu or Cell wanted to back us up on boards..

Guess I never got used to the old faces leaving and the new ones arriving around round 6-7... So wasn't the same for me anymore =/
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Hmm if I can read this...

then maybe I should get out the CD where I burned down my mirc logs directory for r2-r5 and have hours of fun.
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Unread 4 Jan 2003, 08:14   #62
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I love old politics, and love the fact that everyone have hated NoS since round 4 politics. And i loved being in an alliance that was hated by everyone except WolfPack.
r4 was my first round so i was a n00b (hence not knowing about the r4 politics) and i've always hated NoS for some reason, don't know why tho.

^^ the feelings towards NoS of a person not even knowing much about them
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Be careful who your talking to Scorpio, Zhukov finished near the Top 200 planets in Round 3 !

That log makes quite interesting reading one of the few interestings reads on AD during the last 3 months. I think Legion came off better from that exchange, the Game bashing was also quite funny to read
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Dingo, tell me about the time you called lantador names and left him pissed
It is in the log leading up to and causing the split of NoS from the "Original" R4 Triad of Legion-Xanadu-NoS.

He behaved like an A***hole, but took offence at being called one. Simple as that.
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The only thing I found even remotely interesting (besides Petru's references to his Legion portal posts).

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Unread 5 Jan 2003, 13:02   #67
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Poor Hobbie was 'deeply' hurt by that.
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Unread 5 Jan 2003, 18:46   #68
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It is in the log leading up to and causing the split of NoS from the "Original" R4 Triad of Legion-Xanadu-NoS.

He behaved like an A***hole, but took offence at being called one. Simple as that.
I have that log, you sent it to me and BD right after it happened heh
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I have that log, you sent it to me and BD right after it happened heh
post it then...
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I can remember a time when irc logs were prohibited on this board, as most people agreed they are crap.

Shame the AD rules were removed haphazardly by our forum administrator.
oh shut it u moaning twat.

It was a very interesting read, shame we don't see more of it.

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Am I the only one who found that log completely and utterly ****? Having two twats like Petru and Scorpio bitch over who is the most inept is hardly comedy gold now is it lads?
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hmmm... we see one log from one day and people think they can assess a situation during an entire round.

/me looks for Atul as posting things like that is really a no no

But since it's been posted, let's get clear since I was there in that channel day in and day out....

Legion command was very absentee in the beginning of that round and not listening or dealing with issues. Legion fixed that later in the round but several issues caused bad blood between nos and Legion. Xanadu was stuck in the middle. Xanadu had never had bad relations with nos, are we supposed to create bad realations because they can't get on with each other? Remember we had shared galaxies.

When you start a round with certain allies and create galaxies based around those alliances then you should make a better effort to keep peace for the round.

I fault Legion for not listening and not trying to make things work with nos and I fault nos for walking off mid round without at least talking to Xanadu first. And as I see.. many fault Xanadu for not attacking Nos after they left or keeping VeX in R5.

The majority of HC, if not all, of both Legion and Xanadu ended the round on good terms. It was the BC who experienced issues and both sides were very vocal about them, as I'm sure you can see from that log. There are many more logs like that one... hehe.

The Xanadu decsion for allies for R5 was made by a member vote. A method we never used again

I hope this sheds some light on PA history...
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Reading that again makes me laugh so much.

On reflection, looking back with a tempered mind I would have preferred if NoS hadn't been around at all (which fkwit in Legion HC decided to let them be so high and mighty instead of a different third party I'd love to know), had they not interfered Legion could have maintained a decent relationship with Xanadu.

That in itself would have changed the entire future of PA from then on, since it was VeX falling apart over NoS that forced us to start working with Fury again, and thus the old "furgion" return.

Oh well

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it happens to be on my old computer along with my round1-4(end)| logs, I'll wip them out some day I imagine.
You are such a liar Torz, the only thing youll be wipping out is your maggot todger to knock one of over your old computer that was full of hard core gay clown pr0n.

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Re: Lords of the rounds: The Two Towers" (The story of Xanadu and Legion in the 4th era)

Actually the only winner to come out of this was NoS since if Xanadu wouldn't stick to the them they would prolly have died in r5 or lived on r5 independantly (lol) and die r6.
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Actually the only winner to come out of this was NoS since if Xanadu wouldn't stick to the them they would prolly have died in r5 or lived on r5 independantly (lol) and die r6.
NoS was independent for most of r5, because they died

/me still remembers Grim's "goodbye NoS"-thread on Xanadu webby, hehe
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It was interesting to read and look...we got an honourable mention.
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Re: Lords of the rounds: The Two Towers" (The story of Xanadu and Legion in the 4th era)

That was some awesome bit of bumping....
I read that thinking; 'hmmm, I'm sure I've read this before...'

A 9 month bump ffs?!
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That was some awesome bit of bumping....
I read that thinking; 'hmmm, I'm sure I've read this before...'

A 9 month bump ffs?!

At the bottom of the page, every thread has a list with 'similar threads'. For some reason this thread ended up as being 'similar' with some crap thread on GD
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This thread owned untill Cochese screwed it up...
I love old politics, and love the fact that everyone have hated NoS since round 4 politics. And i loved being in an alliance that was hated by everyone except WolfPack.

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I'd thoroughly say that Legion were the 'winners' from that log. I'm actually quite glad they decided to attack NoS, as they clearly didn't like them, and decided to do something about them. It also meant that me along with the rest of WTF could take our anger out on NoS and CELL for a bit.

And anyway. NoCeX got absolutely bottled in round 5. I'd say justice was more or less done.
As you always said - you thought Fury ended r4 in the best position.

Anyway, if it wasnt for Legion, then Xanadu probably would never have become the superpower it did become.
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As you always said - you thought Fury ended r4 in the best position.

Anyway, if it wasnt for Legion, then Xanadu probably would never have become the superpower it did become.

oh why? actually I believe during r4 Legion was the weakest part in VeX. I think we would have done it with any other decent alliance on Xan and Ely's side.
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I'm actually wondering if Fury and WP also had such fights in their command channels
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I'm actually wondering if Fury and WP also had such fights in their command channels
As far as I know - no.

This is mainly because Fury didn't actually have much of a presence without Sid

Ghengis/Cayl were the big-workers and afaik they got on okay with the remnants of WP.

In answer to SilverSmoke:

My reasoning and logic are all quite simple. Xanadu was successful from that round due to contributing to winning the war vs Fury. If it wasnt for Legion, then it would never have got the public attention and would not have been behind the Legion "name". I'm not saying Legion was equal to Xanadu militarily - we know that is not true, but Legion had the most sway politically and in name.

I do believe that if Xanadu had not sided with Legion and rallied around one VeX banner then WTF would have trumped over Legion and then Xan/Ely. (Remember, it was Elysium that ****ed up all the stuff with Tuba.)
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My reasoning and logic are all quite simple. Xanadu was successful from that round due to contributing to winning the war vs Fury. If it wasnt for Legion, then it would never have got the public attention and would not have been behind the Legion "name". I'm not saying Legion was equal to Xanadu militarily - we know that is not true, but Legion had the most sway politically and in name.

I do believe that if Xanadu had not sided with Legion and rallied around one VeX banner then WTF would have trumped over Legion and then Xan/Ely. (Remember, it was Elysium that ****ed up all the stuff with Tuba.)
Well, Xanadu actually had a few backup alliances in round 4. We read the Legion command board as well at the end of r3, and saw the ideas of using us and then dumping us. So in case Legion decided to break with us, we wouldnt have been alone

Still funny that WP didnt think we were good enough :eek:
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If it was so weak why did it end teh round so strongly.

The morale was strong at the end, I enjoyed round four, nice people and good camaradary (sp?).

Legion for me wasn't as weak as everyone perceived. I know I was on more than most because i was made redundant for a time during that round
I seem to remember Legion mounting an attack on Ado which got successfully defended against by MI. Or perhaps that was more representative of the skill of the BC there, I dont know, what do you think rumad, were you crap back then as well?
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Re: Lords of the rounds: The Two Towers" (The story of Xanadu and Legion in the 4th era)

Interesting to see what was going on behind the scenes. I was in the Ell/Dirtball galaxy that was mentioned in the logs, but blissfully unaware of the politics.

Funnily enough the tiny (3ppl dropping to 2) Yi-He-Quan portion of the galaxy ended up with 2 minister jobs by the end of the round, many of the 'big name' people got bored and gave up roiding.

Mind you, if I'd accepted the offers to join Legion or Xanadu at the end of the round I guess my career in PA would have been very different?
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I seem to remember Legion mounting an attack on Ado which got successfully defended against by MI. Or perhaps that was more representative of the skill of the BC there, I dont know, what do you think rumad, were you crap back then as well?
I remember a few times that MI took more target galaxies than Legion.
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I remember a few times that MI took more target galaxies than Legion.
Well to be entirely fair, MI never took more than 2-3 smallish galaxies, due to being composed of mainly n00bs (that btw grew up to have quite a 'tude (people like Diabz). Never booked a lot of success on them either, but we occupied fleets so I suppose we helped with the war effort. Also I believe Legion had a habit of not booking all of their targets and doing some misc. attacks.

MI wasn't all that great, but was the best in its class by far back then
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the ado attack was a deflection. If I rememebr rightly he was in fruchts gal who was teh actual target :-)
Who are you trying to kid? The entire galaxy was a target, not just frucht. 1 million ships is NOT a diversionary attack for legion in that day and age, Ado and Frucht were not of the same alliance, Ado disliked frucht and was good friends with crusher and was going to be in a legion HC galaxy the next round. More to that MI was napped to xanadu and helping out with attacks. That target was wrong in just about every way imaginable, but you managed to not get decent intel on your target and then screw the actual attack up as well.

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More to that MI was napped to xanadu and helping out with attacks.
Hmm, NAP is a big word, as MI wasn't in our arbiter .
We did have an agreement to attack together though. But that agreement also went up for Legion.
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Hmm, NAP is a big word, as MI wasn't in our arbiter .
We did have an agreement to attack together though. But that agreement also went up for Legion.
It was a NAP, if a xanadu planet attacked an MI planet it got ordered to pull, Xanadu in general didn't attack MI (to my surprise) and the odd planet that did actually complied to the pulling order. It's this that actually made me want to join Xanadu in Round 5, had it not been for my galaxy I'd have been in there
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If you use :-) enough it makes it seem like you are happy and don't really care right?

I'm sure it makes you feel better to think all of this, and ofcourse frucht was the main target.
In the end its down to the good old 'what I say' and 'what you say'. I say it was a serious attack, you simply covered the galaxy and put extra fleet on frucht, that doesn't mean it's a diversionary attack, it was meant to hit and get roids. I've seen legion attack the #1 gal at the end of the round with about the same amount of ships they put on ado per planet, as a meant attack. So I find it interesting that you would use 1 million diversionary ships earlier in the round on a mediocre sized planet in a top 50 gal, whereas you would seriously attack with that same amount later in the round in the top 1 galaxy. But hey, whatever makes you happy.
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It was a NAP, if a xanadu planet attacked an MI planet it got ordered to pull, Xanadu in general didn't attack MI (to my surprise) and the odd planet that did actually complied to the pulling order. It's this that actually made me want to join Xanadu in Round 5, had it not been for my galaxy I'd have been in there
ah true, you're right.
I remember some MI people complaining about Randal and his galaxy hitting them
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