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Question [football] the big league rnd 5

It starts again on saturday and runs to the end of the season. Not everyone has claimed their place but we will have 20 confirmed players by saturday.

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I put the following letters by your results to indicate where I've awarded points...

G = 1 point = generally right : final score accurate as far as home/away

A = 2 points = almost right
  • correct home goals in a home win prediction
  • correct away goals in an away win prediction
  • any non-exact draw in a draw prediction
  • correct goal difference (has to be generally right too)
X = 3 points = exactly right... obviously the exact score

and 1 point each for
  • H = correct half-time
  • S = scorer
  • T = Time (+-4 minutes)
  • Y = Yellow card* (and R=Red card for 2 pts)
IMPORTANT - new option!

*You can either name first scorer + time as usual or you can name someone you think will be booked.
If that person gets a yellow card, you get 1 point. If he gets a red, you score 2.

I'll assume any name without a time next to it is intended as a booking prediction.

Livescore.com is the deciding info source for scorers, times, bookings, etc.

Anyone who misses a prediction gets a 0-3 defeat. If a non-predictor is your opponent, you get a win if you score any points, and a draw if you score 0.

One other change : in the last league, random wasn't truely random. I moved players around a lot to avoid them having the same team too often or playing the same opponent. It was a pain. This time it will be random regardless of repetition. (I'll use the random number generator at random.org)


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14 [Man City] MrL_JaKiri v isildurx    [Man Utd] 12:45
14 [Arsenal]         1-X v JBGood   [Middlesbro] 15:00
14 [Aston Villa]     pig v sniborp    [West Ham] 15:00
14 [Charlton]       SYMM v furball  [Birmingham] 15:00
14 [Fulham]         KoeN v Kurashima [Newcastle] 15:00
14 [Liverpool]     Phang v midge5    [Tottenham] 15:00
14 [Blackburn]        JC v LHC          [Bolton] 17:15
14 [Portsmouth]   lokken v Apothos     [Everton] 15:00
15 [Wigan]    Blastoderm v roadrunner[West Brom] 13:30
15 [Sunderland]    Reidy v Obliterate  [Chelsea] 16:00

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

i'll guest star if you so desire.

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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You also need to say what you think the half time score will be, home lead, away lead or draw.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

14 [Aston Villa] pig v sniborp [West Ham] 15:00
repka to be booked/sent off
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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*You can either name first scorer + time as usual or you can name someone you think will be booked.
If that person gets a yellow card, you get 1 point. If he gets a red, you score 2.
i doubt many people will ever predict the first scorer again then; it's far easier to predict someone to get booked. 2 points for a red card stimulates even more to predict this.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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i doubt many people will ever predict the first scorer again then; it's far easier to predict someone to get booked. 2 points for a red card stimulates even more to predict this.
well i was thinking about this only people that will really do well out of this is people predicting blackburn (robbie savage, dickov and bellamy) If I was going to do it for villa I would most likely say ridgewell he gives too many penalties away, baros diving and hendrie is a bit dirty (but he doesnt play much) when thinking about teams in general its difficult to think of yellow card prone players I guess I could look at stats or summet...essien for chelsea is another easy points.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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essien for chelsea is another easy points.
Essien has only got 4 yellow cards in the league this season.

As a comparison, C. Ronaldo has got 7, Sissoko has 7 and a red and Lee Bowyer has got 1 and a red, and 21 games of the season have gone.

The points aren't as free as they might appear.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

+-4 I think would be better than both a 10 minute range (too wide) and a 6 minute range (too narrow).
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

agreeing wth +4, although i know it'll cost me later on
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

±45 minutes, I think (alt 0177, by the way)
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

not if you said he scored at 45 mins
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not if you said he scored at 45 mins
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

Fulham 2 - 1 Newcastle
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

Yeah, playing. Thanks

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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Um, you're calling a draw at half-time but someone to score in the 23rd minute - and a clean sheet for Charlton makes that impossible. Oh, and no-one called 'John' plays for Charlton or Birmingham City
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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Um, you're calling a draw at half-time but someone to score in the 23rd minute - and a clean sheet for Charlton makes that impossible. Oh, and no-one called 'John' plays for Charlton or Birmingham City
good call with "John" but the other 'mistake' is allowed. We agreed long ago that predictions don't have to be physically possible.
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

'Hedging your bets'
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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good call with "John" but the other 'mistake' is allowed. We agreed long ago that predictions don't have to be physically possible.
I don't mind that, just wanted to draw attention to it in case it's a mistake as well.
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I don't mind that, just wanted to draw attention to it in case it's a mistake as well.
I'm glad I got the chance to mention that little known rule as many might not be aware of it.

btw as he is your opponent, the smart thing to do would be to keep quiet and let him continue with a reduced chance of scoring points
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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btw as he is your opponent, the smart thing to do would be to keep quiet and let him continue with a reduced chance of scoring points
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

14 [Man City] MrL_JaKiri v isildurx [Man Utd] 12:45

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A

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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[Man City] MrL_JaKiri v isildurx    [Man Utd]
a 1-2		   h 3-1		a 1-3
rooney 40	sinclair 32	   barton [c]

         MrL_JaKiri 0 - 0 isildurx
Code:
[Arsenal]         1-X v JBGood   [Middlesbro]
h 2-0		   h 7-0		h 4-1
henry 24	  henry 20	     henry 19
HGST					 HGST
                1-X 4 - 4 JonnyBGood
Code:
[Aston Villa]     pig v sniborp    [West Ham]
h 2-0		   h 1-2		d 1-0		
baros 27	hendrie 27	    repka [c]
HT
                pig 2 - 0 sniborp
Code:
[Charlton]       SYMM v furball  [Birmingham]
d 2-0		   h 2-0		h 2-0
john 23		 hughes 29	      bent 20
X					   HX
               SYMM 3 - 4 furball

(eJohn's unused guest prediction scored 1)
Code:
[Fulham]         KoeN v Kurashima [Newcastle]
a 1-2		   d 1-0		h 2-1
malbranque [c]	malbranque 75		cj 32
					    A
               KoeN 0 - 2 Kurashima
Code:
[Liverpool]     Phang v midge5    [Tottenham]
d 2-1		   d 1-0		h 2-1
gerrard 20	 kewell 59          crouch 27
HA					    A
              Phang 3 - 2 midge5
Code:
[Blackburn]        JC v LHC          [Bolton]
h 2-0		   d 0-0 		d 2-1
neill [c]	     -,-	  pederson 10
                 JC 0 - 1 LHC

8 players booked in this match, but not yours!
Code:
[Portsmouth]   lokken v Apothos     [Everton]
d 1-0		   a 0-1		a 0-1
o'neil 54	  osman 31	   beattie 22
				           HX
             lokken 0 - 4 Apothos
Code:
		P W D L  F  A Pts
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Apothos         1 1 0 0  4  0  3
furball         1 1 0 0  4  3  3
Phang		1 1 0 0  3  2  3
---------------------------------
pig		1 1 0 0  2  0  3
Kurashima       1 1 0 0  2  0  3
LHC             1 1 0 0  1  0  3
1-X		1 0 1 0  4  4  1
JonnyBGood	1 0 1 0  4  4  1
MrL_JaKiri	1 0 1 0  0  0  1
isildurx	1 0 1 0  0  0  1
Blastoderm      0 0 0 0  0  0  0
roadrunner      0 0 0 0  0  0  0
Reidy           0 0 0 0  0  0  0
Obliterate      0 0 0 0  0  0  0
SYMM            1 0 0 1  3  4  0
midge5          1 0 0 1  2  3  0 
JC              1 0 0 1  0  1  0
---------------------------------
sniborp         1 0 0 1  0  2  0
KoeN		1 0 0 1  0  2  0
lokken          1 0 0 1  0  4  0
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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btw, if you'd all like to see T increased from +-3 to +-5 for first goal time, now's the time to say so
Did this happen
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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Did this happen
Nope, it's +-4 now.

Last edited by 1-X : 12 Jan 2006 at 22:06. Reason: note I've decided to increase score time to 4 minutes
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

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Did this happen
not quite, a couple of people suggested 4 minutes which seemed like a better idea so I edited the opening post

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As you can see I did so a couple of days before the match and yes, you would have won under the old rule.

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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

the comedy of being mid table without having played cheers me immensely
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

Done in the ass by life again
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

better than being done in the ass by a big black man though
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Re: [football] the big league rnd 5

I hear they're replacing the death penalty with that in California.
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