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Question [football] the big league 2005

the star trek titles just had to go...

anyway, league starts 01 Jan. I'll paste the scoring system in here when it's finalised.

All you need to know is that for your selected games, you should predict :

HALF TIME as either home/draw/away
FINAL SCORE
FIRST SCORER + TIME OF FIRST GOAL

There is no rigid format... just make sure it's understandable.

Everyone has two games to start, then there is a break till the 15th.

KO (ie the deadline for predicting) is 1500 unless stated otherwise
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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Sat 01 Jan

[Liverpool]  Inferno v 1-X        [Chelsea] 1245
[Fulham]        Koen v NonHuman  [C.Palace] 1400
[Aston Villa]  Phang v JC       [Blackburn]
[Bolton]       Peace v JonnyBGood     [WBA]
[Charlton]   Apothos v roadrunner [Arsenal]
[Man City]   Zharkov v Stew   [Southampton]
[Newcastle]Kurashima v SYMM    [Birmingham]
[Portsmouth]  lokken v LHC        [Norwich]
[Tottenham]   Blasto v MrL_JaKiri [Everton]
[Middlesbro]  midge5 v Belgy      [Man Utd] 1700

Mon 03 Jan

[Norwich]       SYMM v Inferno  [Liverpool] 1245
[Blackburn]       JC v Apothos   [Charlton]
[C.Palace]  NonHuman v 1-X    [Aston Villa]
[West Brom]    Phang v Kurashima[Newcastle] 2000  

Tue 04 Jan

[Arsenal] JonnyBGood v Zharkov   [Man City] 1945
[Birmingham]    Stew v Peace       [Bolton] 1945
[Chelsea] MrL_JaKiri v midge5  [Middlesbro] 1945
[Everton]      Belgy v Lokken  [Portsmouth] 2000
[Man Utd]        LHC v Blasto   [Tottenham] 2000

Wed 05 Jan

[Southampton]   rr_0 v Koen        [Fulham] 2000
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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Pompey 3 - 2 Norwich
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Liverpool v Chelsea
1-2
Robben 14
ht : chelsea

Palace v Villa
0-1
Angel 55
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

[Charlton] Apothos v roadrunner [Arsenal]

HT away
FT 0 - 2
henry 34

[Southampton] rr_0 v Koen [Fulham] 2000

HT draw
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

count me in, if any space if available. i hope i am more reliable this season.

ps: if man utd is left, i would like to choose them.

edit: ah well read the other thread. anyways, set me on substition status.
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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count me in, if any space if available. i hope i am more reliable this season.

ps: if man utd is left, i would like to choose them.

edit: ah well read the other thread. anyways, set me on substition status.
it should be possible to have two people predicting for the same team - it was working ok last time with Skiddy/Kura and Grimble/Rumad...

so pick any team other than ManU/Chelsea/Arsenal (how about random?) and I'll give you some fixtures to predict
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

[Tottenham] Blasto v MrL_JaKiri [Everton]

Away

FT: 1-1

Cahill, 40

[Chelsea] MrL_JaKiri v midge5 [Middlesbro] 1945

4-0

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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Bolton vs West Brom

2-0
1-0
Davies 38

Arsenal vs Man City

4-1
2-0
Henry 16
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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Sat 01 Jan
[Newcastle]Kurashima v SYMM [Birmingham]
 
HT : Away
FT : 1-2
Scorer : Savage (13) 
 
Mon 03 Jan
 
[West Brom] Phang v Kurashima[Newcastle] 2000 
 
HT : Away
FT : 0-3
Scorer : Bellamy (27)
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it should be possible to have two people predicting for the same team - it was working ok last time with Skiddy/Kura and Grimble/Rumad...

so pick any team other than ManU/Chelsea/Arsenal (how about random?) and I'll give you some fixtures to predict
aight. i'll give random a try.
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

[Tottenham] Blasto v MrL_JaKiri [Everton]

Home
1-0
Defoe, 49


[Man Utd] LHC v Blasto [Tottenham] 2000

Home
1-1
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

[Man City] Zharkov v Stew [Southampton]

Draw
1-0
Fowler 74



[Birmingham] Stew v Peace [Bolton] 1945
Home
3-0
Heskey 12
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Man City - Southampton
HT: Home
FT: 1-1
SWP, 25

Arsenal - Man City
HT: Home
FT: 3-1
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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aight. i'll give random a try.
have these two for starters...

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01 Jan - Liverpool v Chelsea

04 Jan - Man Utd v Tottenham
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Bolton v WBA
HT: home
FT: 3 - 0
Davies 7

Birmingham v Bolton
HT: draw
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Liverpool - Chelsea
HT: Draw
FT: 0 - 0

ps: if i add first scorer here, my chances of winning are rising?

Manchester - Tottenham

HT: Home
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ps: if i add first scorer here, my chances of winning are rising?
naming scorer and time on 0-0 gives you another chance of getting points if the draw is wrong, but you get less points if it is 0-0 than you would if you hadn't named one.

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Re: [football] the big league 2005

edit: i'm illiterate.

Villa - Rovers
home
2-1
Angel 13

WBA - Newcastle
draw
1-3
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Bizarre, I predicted here last night


[Portsmouth] lokken v LHC [Norwich]
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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[Middlesbro]  midge5 v Belgy      [Man Utd] 1700
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Jimmy Floyd 34
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Fulham v C Palace
FT: 2-0
HT: Home
Malbranque 11

C Palace v Villa
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Villa v Rovers
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HT: 0-0
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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[Fulham]        Koen v NonHuman  [C.Palace] 1400

Wed 05 Jan

[Southampton]   rr_0 v Koen        [Fulham] 2000
[Fulham] Koen v NonHuman [C.Palace]

HT: home
FT: 3 - 0
1st scorer: Collins John, 18


[Southampton] rr_0 v Koen [Fulham]

HT: away
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[Charlton] Apothos v roadrunner [Arsenal]
FT: 0 - 2
HT: Away
Sorcerer: Henry, 40.

[Blackburn] JC v Apothos [Charlton]
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HT: Draw
Sorcerer: Johansson, 46.
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

day 1 - match 1 and Inferno didn't predict

only other non-predictor is midge5 who has till 1700
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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2 - 0
Cahill 50
ht: draw
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I think that's fair.

Everton will be due a win, and midweek away in Liverpool sounds shite.
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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[Liverpool]    Lupin v 1-X        [Chelsea] 
D 0-0		   D 0-1	      A 1-2 
-		  Cole 81	  Robben 14
H					  A
             Lupin 0 - 2 1-X

[Fulham]        Koen v NonHuman  [C.Palace] 
H 3-0		   H 3-1 	      H 2-0
CJ 18		  Cole 4      Malbranque 11
HA					 HA
              Koen 3 - 3 NonHuman

[Aston Villa]  Phang v JC       [Blackburn]
H 2-1		   D 1-0	      D 0-1
Angel 13	Solano 89	    Reid 66
A				          H
             Phang 2 - 1 JC

[Bolton]       Peace v JonnyBGood     [WBA]
H 3-0		   A 1-1	      H 2-0
Davies 7	  Gera 14	  Davies 38

             Peace 0 - 0 JonnyBGood

[Charlton]   Apothos v roadrunner [Arsenal]
A 0-2		   D 1-3 	      A 0-2
Henry 40	 Ljungberg 35	   Henry 34
A					 AT
           Apothos 2 - 3 roadrunner

[Man City]   Zharkov v Stew   [Southampton]
H 1-1		   H 2-1	      D 1-0
SWP 25		 Bosvelt 20	  Fowler 74
H					  A
           Zharkov 1 - 2 Stew 

[Newcastle]Kurashima v SYMM    [Birmingham]
A 1-2		   H 2-1 	      H 2-0
Savage 13	 Amoebi 6	 Bellamy 23
					 HA
         Kurashima 0 - 3 SYMM

[Portsmouth]  lokken v LHC        [Norwich]
H 3-2		   A 1-1	      H 2-1
Yakubu 12	 Francis 9	 Lua Lua 34
T					 
            Lokken 1 - 0 LHC

[Tottenham]   Blasto v MrL_JaKiri [Everton]
H 1-0		   H 5-2	      A 1-1
Defoe 49	 Marney 19	  Cahill 40
HG
        Blastoderm 2 - 0 MrL_JaKiri

[Middlesbro]  Lawro v Belgy       [Man Utd] 
1-2		  A 0-2		      H 1-3
-		Fletcher 9	     JFH 34
A					  A
            Lawro 2 - 2 Belgy
midge5 and Inferno did not predict
They get automatic 1-0 defeats.


Code:
    	     P W D L F A Pts
SYMM         1 1 0 0 3 0  3
roadrunner   1 1 0 0 3 2  3
Blastoderm   1 1 0 0 2 0  3
Stew         1 1 0 0 2 1  3
Phang        1 1 0 0 2 1  3
1-X          1 1 0 0 2 1  3
Lokken       1 1 0 0 1 0  3
Koen         1 0 1 0 3 3  1
NonHuman     1 0 1 0 3 3  1
Belgy        1 0 1 0 2 2  1
Peace        1 0 1 0 0 0  1
JonnyBGood   1 0 1 0 0 0  1
Apothos      1 0 0 1 2 3  0
JC           1 0 0 1 1 2  0
Lupin        1 0 0 1 1 2  0
Zharkov      1 0 0 1 1 2  0
LHC          1 0 0 1 0 1  0
midge5       1 0 0 1 0 1  0
Inferno      1 0 0 1 0 1  0
MrL_JaKiri   1 0 0 1 0 2  0
Kurashima    1 0 0 1 0 3  0

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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Start as we mean to go on, eh?
(And the title of the thread, while being good and startrekless is just too short...it was always easy to find due to it's length- any way to stick a few words on the end? )
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

I don't understand:
a) Why I don't get any points for being 3 minutes within the time of the first goal, considering I predicted 9, and Francis scored on 12.
b) why i'm 'completely wrong' and the opposition isn't when we both predicted marginal home wins and away goals.
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I don't understand:
a) Why I don't get any points for being 3 minutes within the time of the first goal, considering I predicted 9, and Francis scored on 12.
b) why i'm 'completely wrong' and the opposition isn't when we both predicted marginal home wins and away goals.
a) you're right, you should have won.... I'll edit it

b) if you hadn't got the time right, LHC would have won because, in an attempt to have less 0-0 draws, I would have given him a point for having the away goals right)

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Re: [football] the big league 2005

cheque's in the post
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Yeah, a repost of the scoring system would come in handy. I'm confused.
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

SCORING

I put a little letter just above the result that shows what you got right.... (though H for halftime and A for 'almost right' clash with the H for home and A for away by the scores so they could change)

G = 1 point = generally right... final score accurate as far as home/draw/away
X = 3 points = exactly right... obviously the exact score
A = 2 points = almost right... now this is a messy one

it's awarded for either
correct home goals in a home win prediction
correct away goals in an away win prediction
any non-exact draw
correct goal difference

add to that H for correct half-time, S for scorer, T for time (+-3 minutes) and that's basically it.

The "completely wrong bonus" : only in matches where both players have equal points and neither got points for the final score, 1 point will be awarded for having a partially correct score.

There may or may not be a further bonus for getting both scorer+time or maybe exact time. I've put the decision off till it happens.

Bear in mind that unlike the other leagues, I check this one "in my head" and do make mistakes (especially when I've just changed the rules) so it's wise to check your own and shout at me if you think I've got something wrong
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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      correct home goals in a home win prediction
 A =               
      correct away goals in an away win prediction
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There may or may not be a further bonus for getting both scorer+time or maybe exact time.
no bonus points.

edit: if you actually want an opinion
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Please don't recheck games that I've won in future.
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

[Norwich] SYMM v Inferno [Liverpool]

as Inferno hasn't predicted (again) and Lawrenson doesn't seem to have predicted today's results, SYMM will be judged against the backup Football Focus prediction of Norwich 1 - 3 Liverpool.

EDIT which I just noticed is exactly the same as SYMM's prediction, so as the FF one doesn't have a HT it means an easy win for SYMM. In future I think we should have a half-time prediction for the stand-in based on the final score.
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

I didn't get the HT correct though did I?
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

dunno, haven't checked yet - I was just assuming you had . Basically all I was getting at was that predicting against just a final score may be too easy... then again it's not your fault your opponent didn't show

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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Er, im back now. What have i missed? And whats the next games?
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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Er, im back now. What have i missed? And whats the next games?
you missed your first two games , next ones aren't posted yet as they're not played until the 15th
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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[Norwich]       SYMM v F-Focus  [Liverpool] 
a 1-3		   d 1-2		1-3
gerrard 17       Garcia 58
G					  G
              SYMM 1 - 1 Football Focus

[Blackburn]       JC v Apothos   [Charlton]
h 2-0		   h 1-0	      d 1-2
todd 15		emerton 41     johansson 46
HG
                JC 2 - 0 Apothos

[C.Palace]  NonHuman v 1-X    [Aston Villa]
d 0-1		   h 2-0	      d 0-1
angel 70 	johnson 33	   angel 55

          NonHuman 0 - 0 1-X

[West Brom]    Phang v Kurashima[Newcastle]
d 1-3		   d 0-0	      a 0-3
earnshaw 11			 bellamy 27
H
             Phang 1 - 0 Kurashima
Code:
             P W D L F A Pts
Phang        2 2 0 0 3 1  6
SYMM         2 1 1 0 4 1  4
1-X          2 1 1 0 2 1  4
roadrunner   1 1 0 0 3 2  3
JC           2 1 0 1 3 2  3
Blastoderm   1 1 0 0 2 0  3
Stew         1 1 0 0 2 1  3
Lokken       1 1 0 0 1 0  3
NonHuman     2 0 2 0 3 3  2
Koen         1 0 1 0 3 3  1
Belgy        1 0 1 0 2 2  1
Peace        1 0 1 0 0 0  1
JonnyBGood   1 0 1 0 0 0  1
Apothos      2 0 0 2 2 5  0
Lupin        1 0 0 1 1 2  0
Zharkov      1 0 0 1 1 2  0
LHC          1 0 0 1 0 1  0
midge5       1 0 0 1 0 1  0
MrL_JaKiri   1 0 0 1 0 2  0
Inferno      2 0 0 2 0 2  0
Kurashima    2 0 0 2 0 4  0
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

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you missed your first two games , next ones aren't posted yet as they're not played until the 15th
Yeah that happens a lot nowadays.

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Re: [football] the big league 2005

[Chelsea] MrL_JaKiri v midge5 [Middlesbro] 1945
HT 1-0
FT 3-0
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Re: [football] the big league 2005

Code:
[Arsenal] JonnyBGood v Zharkov   [Man City] 
h 4-1		  a 1-1		      h 3-1
henry 16	  swp 34	   pires 24
					  H
        JonnyBGood 0 - 1 Zharkov

[Birmingham]    Stew v Peace       [Bolton] 
h 3-0		  a 1-2		      d 1-2
heskey 12	diouf 17	  okocha 48
					  X
              Stew 0 - 3 Peace

[Chelsea] MrL_JaKiri v midge5  [Middlesbro] 
h 4-0		  h 2-0		      h 3-0
robben 30	drogba 15	  robben 22
HG					 HG
               MrL 2 - 2 midge5

[Everton]      Belgy v Lokken  [Portsmouth] 
d 2-0		  d 2-1		      h 1-1
cahill 50	stubbs 29	  cahill 22
HA
              Belgy 3 - 0 lokken

[Man Utd]        LHC v Blasto   [Tottenham] 
h 2-0		  d 0-0		      h 1-1
giggs 14	     -		 scholes 26
					  A
               LHC 0 - 2 Blastoderm

[Man Utd]      Lupin v Blasto   [Tottenham] 
h 3-1		  d 0-0		      h 1-1
RvN 24	     	     -		 scholes 26
					  A
             Lupin 0 - 2 Blastoderm
Code:
             P W D L F A Pts
Blastoderm   2 2 0 0 4 0  6
Phang        2 2 0 0 3 1  6
Belgy        2 1 1 0 5 2  4
----------------------------
SYMM         2 1 1 0 4 1  4
Peace        2 1 1 0 3 0  4
1-X          2 1 1 0 2 1  4
roadrunner   1 1 0 0 3 2  3
JC           2 1 0 1 3 2  3
Stew         2 1 0 1 2 4  3
Zharkov      2 1 0 1 2 2  3
Lokken       2 1 0 1 1 3  3
NonHuman     2 0 2 0 3 3  2
Koen         1 0 1 0 3 3  1
midge5       2 0 1 1 2 3  1
MrL_JaKiri   2 0 1 1 2 4  1
JonnyBGood   2 0 1 1 0 1  1
Apothos      2 0 0 2 2 5  0
Lupin        2 0 0 2 1 4  0
----------------------------
Inferno      2 0 0 2 0 2  0
LHC          2 0 0 2 0 3  0
Kurashima    2 0 0 2 0 4  0
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