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Unread 13 Dec 2005, 21:40   #1
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eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

As of today, Tides of Fire no longer will exist as an alliance.

The active and more experienced members of the alliance have decided to start over with our active member base and a new command structure. We will be known as eVolutioN.

Please join us in our new public channel #eVolutioN.

We hope to become a stronger alliance through these changes.

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Unread 13 Dec 2005, 21:43   #2
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

Could you please be more specific about the reasons ToF is disbanding?
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

Best of luck i spose. From what ive heard wasnt the prettiest ending to you guys, but well, good luck.
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not like angels^^
they didnt fk over their own hc
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

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The changes that we have made to the alliance are for a huge number of reasons, but basically it is all centered merely around a new command structure and many other reasons that i really CBA to go into!

if anyone has any more specific questions for us then pls ask in #eVolution or idd post here, and we will try to answer them.
I have no doubt that a lot of %@#$ will be thrown around about this in the next few days, but pls do me a favour and ask us
Uhm.. I have to say, avoiding to talk publicly about this only suggests that there was foul play involved..
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

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Uhm.. I have to say, avoiding to talk publicly about this only suggests that there was foul play involved..
So what? They don't need to publish whatever happened if they don't want to.
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

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So what? They don't need to publish whatever happened if they don't want to.
Thank you Nadar i think it is best for everyone involved if i dont, suffice to say tho, that the Hc's who are no longer in command are damn good ppl , and at one time were damn awesome leaders, who for one reason or another are now not capable of effectively running a top 10 ally. I still have the upmost respect for them tho.
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

**** u and **** ur new alliance, tof isnt dead yet
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As of today, a movement has started to reorganize and restructure ToF. One of these reasons is inactivity of a key HC that were suppose to be the HEAD HC and our loyal members have stepped forward and demanded that something had to be done. Many members have left the last two weeks and i must say that was alot of loyal and long term members of the alliance, ofc it was not only the members that was sick of the sittuasion we had in the ally so were some of the HC, BC and DC and the alliance needed some propper changes and i will explain the basic of those changes here. We now have new leadership. We are moving from a CEO based alliance to a Republic based alliance. We will have 5 HC's. They will be in charge of every aspect of the alliance. The rest is for the alliance only and you all should know that


Btw Kargool you should know a lil something about foul play don't you? Remember APA?

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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

is it not a bit late in the round for this?
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

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is it not a bit late in the round for this?
Yeah, a good backstabbing is the best way to start a round, not end it.
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Unread 13 Dec 2005, 22:23   #12
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

You guys like your name changes eh Valhalla?
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

This is almost as fun as watching an episode of 'Rome' Which i have avidly been doing...
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

Well GD luck and i hope for the best for all of u
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

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You guys like your name changes eh Valhalla?
LoL How could it of been a name change when Valhalla were still there teh next round
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

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LoL How could it of been a name change when Valhalla were still there teh next round
i have a feeling this will be what happens next round with ToF & eVolution.
I'll see then what my future brings
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Yeah, a good backstabbing is the best way to start a round, not end it.
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Inevitable as it was, this coup stinks and eVolutioN won't get an easy ride.
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Inevitable as it was, this coup stinks and eVolutioN won't get an easy ride.
No alliance gets a easy ride really, just means eVolutioN will learn quickly cause if not then we all know what will happen
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So what? They don't need to publish whatever happened if they don't want to.

Yes, this is the CIA, file is closed.
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

Why does this always happen to the alliances I'm in?

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good luck with the new start!

you can still reach the top 10^^
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

This drama is like Monarch of the Glenn to the high points of Exilition vs ND, which of course is Eastenders.
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

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The active and more experienced members of the alliance have decided to start over with our active member base and a new command structure. We will be known as eVolutioN.

67 active members and an average of 1,9mill? The activity!
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So this is a split from tof or is it a renaming/reorganization of tof? In other words, will tof be around next round?
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So this is a split from tof or is it a renaming/reorganization of tof? In other words, will tof be around next round?
Some people took over and renamed the alliance, the original tof have reformed and should be back in alliance list now I belive.
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

After this hostile takeover of ToF, being renamed and turned into some new alliance called Evolution, the vast majority of the active and original ToF core instantly left evolution, and showed great spirit and strength throught all the backstabbing.

ToF is back, and is not going away, no foul play or hostile takeovers will get rid of us. This evolution alliance, is run by n00bs who didn't have the guts to see it through with ToF, and have now realised that they don't have the support or intelligence to make evolution the success they'd hoped for either.

Good ridance to Evolution I say, let the Tides of FIre rise from the ashes once more. So in response to the very first post in this thread.

quit your bs, and start telling the truth, act like the men you believe you are. You staged a hostile takeover, and lied to the members of ToF, in an attempt to convice them you were in the right. But as always the truth comes out.
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man...i come accross way angrier in that post than i intended! hehe, still
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

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Btw Kargool you should know a lil something about foul play don't you? Remember APA?
Yes, I remember everything about what happend to APA and I remember me being very open about everything that happend then. But I see that the people in ToF didnt like the changes and recreated ToF, wich, the ex APA members could have done when APA was renamed..
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Best drama in a long time
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

Couldn't agree more with Kargool. Right now we have eVolutioN with 2 mil average score and 42 members and we have ToF with 18 members and 2 mil average score aswell. 60 members with 2 mil score doesn't sound exactly but almost like ToF from yesterday. So what's the point of this? Trying to set up a new alliance with the active core? Yeah right.
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Maybe someone have a big ego and want to show it?
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

Well, since the evolution crew automatically took over all members, and everybody who is now in the ToF tag has reapplied, it's not a big shock that they got more members. We'l see what happens tomorrow when people return or get told the whole story. And the people who will stay in the evo tag are ToF probably better off without anyways

It was a takeover that few wanted, afaik. I was shocked, to be honest. And more so when I found out they had been lying.

Oh well, ToF is still ToF, eVolution is just a bunch of backstabbing, lying pricks.
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

Why doesn't it surprise me that it was Bode that started this thread. Saw the thread title, saw the poster, had this really strange feeling I already knew what the thread would be about, and lo, I was right.
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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

Bode u are an ass for pulling this show a second time.

<3 ToF, i know u won't give up and i wish you good luck for the upcoming rounds. maybe it was even good for u, u lost some illoyal members and know who u really can count on.
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As has been said ToF has been restarted after the takeover. Very few members of ToF knew that it was going to take place and, to my knowlegde, only the new HC's and Officers of eVolution knew that the takeover was going to happen. I for one had no idea about it and i consider myself to be one of the most active members (though not a great deal over the late few weeks, damn rl) as well has being one of the biggest who thought things were needing changed.

There were things in ToF that needed sorted and dealt with but not like this and most certainly not in the manner it was carried out in. A large number of the active members have left eVolution, most are rejoining ToF but some people are heading else were for which i dont really blame them considering all the crap thats happened over the last 12 hours. I for one am back in ToF, has been my home for 3 rounds and i wont abandon it after all this.

The one good thing out of all this is that the reformed ToF alliance doesnt have any of the inactives that were hanging around before and, for a great part of them, we have members who are willing to work keep ToF alive as it is. The Round isnt over yet and neither is ToF by a long shot.
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lol Avalen I knew about it, and I have not even been around this round.
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Yeah heard that a few outside ToF new about it but it would appear very few inside ToF had any idea about what was about to kick off.
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Couldn't agree more with Kargool. Right now we have eVolutioN with 2 mil average score and 42 members and we have ToF with 18 members and 2 mil average score aswell. 60 members with 2 mil score doesn't sound exactly but almost like ToF from yesterday. So what's the point of this? Trying to set up a new alliance with the active core? Yeah right.
Score doesnt mean activity. Its easy to land a couple of attacks over the space of the whole round and gain a fair bit of score. Without ever realyl ebing active and particapating in an alliance. Sending defence ect....

I have a question though. Just out of intrest how many people were kicked out of ToF when it got renamed to evolution and how many just left???

Also how many of the HC team decided on the way forward that their alliance should take. From what i can tell its all the HCs except one who decided this(i am seriously lacking in hard facts im just going on hearsy at present please correct me if im wrong with this)

If this is the case(im not saying it is) Then its not so much a hostile takeover as a democratic decision on the way forward an alliance should take. If these people were untrustworthy then why were they ever made HCs?

I would love a little more information on whats been happening so i can make up my mind wether this was a fair decision or not. From what i have heard the HC team removed one of their own for inactivity and progressed forward with a new dynamic way their alliance should be run taking out the people who didnt contrabute to the alliance as a whole.
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If this is the case(im not saying it is) Then its not so much a hostile takeover as a democratic decision on the way forward an alliance should take. If these people were untrustworthy then why were they ever made HCs?

I would love a little more information on whats been happening so i can make up my mind wether this was a fair decision or not. From what i have heard the HC team removed one of their own for inactivity and progressed forward with a new dynamic way their alliance should be run taking out the people who didnt contrabute to the alliance as a whole.

If they wanted to be democratic about it, They would have still been ToF. They could have dropped all the inactive players in-game, shuffled HC around and carried about their business.

Seems like eVolutioN is just a few pissed off people that started a new alliance and tried to dupe as many members from ToF into leaving in hopes that if enough left, ToF would just roll-over and die. Sounds about right to me/

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Re: eVolutioN of Tides of Fire

From what I got told a currant HC promoted Bode to HC ingame, and the between them they demoted all other HC and made a post that the inactives were being kicked.

The HC who promoted Bode could have been the currant techie, cisco
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I supported the idea behind eVolution, but the way they've handled this is just vry vry low imo.
As a result i've quit eVolution caus i don't want to have part in any of it.
I thought yesterday we were supposed to explain our plans to fellah & talk things over.
Not kick fellah & take things over!!!

looks like some monkey's got powerhungry & basicly ****ed ToF.
Atleast ToF is being restarted by people like Fellah, Oly, Bloke, Knight,...
I WUB THEM ALL (yes even fellah ) & would never go to another ally without those people i've been friends with for 5 rounds now

ps: soz vasq & twilight for calling u monkeys, u know i wub joe guys too, but u took a great idea & turned it into shit with this hostile take-over.
Hope you enjoy eVolution even if it's not the way that it was planned or supposed to happen in any decent way.

ps2: Bode **** off, it was a good & nice plan to reform ToF till you came along & turned shit bad with this coup. TY for ****ing things up worse then i could have ever imagined.

You say you want it to be more democratic, how can not talking things over with the former hc be more democratic?
F UCK this SHIT!
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wtf ? :/

Neat ToF disbanding ? NOW THAT SUX i always respected ToF and thumbs up for their achievements.

good luck to whereever you guys go and good luck with your new alliance but maybe you could have waited until round is end.

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wtf ? :/

Neat ToF disbanding ? NOW THAT SUX i always respected ToF and thumbs up for their achievements.

good luck to whereever you guys go and good luck with your new alliance but maybe you could have waited until round is end.

and never listen to kargool, he is an attentionwh0re.
ToF is not disbanding, eVo just tried to take over (and failed big time imo) ToF is allready being reformed
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From what I got told a currant HC promoted Bode to HC ingame, and the between them they demoted all other HC and made a post that the inactives were being kicked.

The HC who promoted Bode could have been the currant techie, cisco
If that is the case then it is indeed a very low and underhanded thing to do.
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If that is the case then it is indeed a very low and underhanded thing to do.
read this one as well, has a bit more info but generally follows same line as me


but yes very underhand and shit thing to do

Good luck to ToF in rebuilding and hope you can get through this, at least this helped weed out the unwanted members

will bw interesting to see if enough loyal ToF members will leave evolution and rejoin ToF so toF end higher then evolution
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Just a note to clarify what has happened.

I am a founder member of ToF and was given no idea of what was going to happen. I arrived online to find my Alliance had been mugged.

There are ways of doing these things but I am afraid to say this was not carried out in an appropriate manner.

Sorry guys but you just don't do that to people.


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and never listen to kargool, he is an attentionwh0re.
Im most impressed by your judgement of me. If I had an award I could give you, I would have. Sadly, i only got this hand of wet sand. But here you go.
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with the support of most members and officers, we are reforming ToF. we'll be fully back for next round, its a shame it happened, i lost a lot of faith in ppl i respected and liked but thats passed us now !! i'd like to tank some ppl for really being here and supporting us in this hard. a formal ToF announcement will be made later today !!

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with the support of most members and officers, we are reforming ToF. we'll be fully back for next round, its a shame it happened, i lost a lot of faith in ppl i respected and liked but thats passed us now !! i'd like to tank some ppl for really being here and supporting us in this hard. a formal ToF announcement will be made later today !!

kind regards ToF hc
yay fellah, even when you send your minions to rape my planet i still hope you will do it
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