Round 11 so far...

[ComradeRob]

... is actually one of the most enjoyable rounds I've played.

Despite all the propaganda and general bad vibes on the forums, round 11 is actually shaping up to be one of the best rounds of PA. Combining aggressive ship stats with a fluid political situation, we now have a round in which it's possible that no alliance will dominate, and the battle for the #1 spot will go on until the end.

Politiically most alliances seem to be quite astute, nobody has made any seriously bad decisions yet, and even those alliances which did poorly in the first couple of weeks are making comebacks, aided by the ship stats which make attacking easy, and very profitable when doing so from a weaker position (due to xp scoring).

At the risk of jinxing the round, I'd say that this is probably the best round since p2p, with the only problem being the small universe. 30k planets with these kinds of stats and politics would be amazing.

We do now have a good open fight - nobody is able to run away with a victory, and nobody is knocked down so far that they can't get back up again and fight back. Every alliance has a chance to make a difference, even those not in the running for the #1 spot.

So, what's your opinion on the round so far?

p.s. please try to keep it objective and honest, I don't want to have to delete a bunch of flames

[Blacknova]

As the game itself goes, I agree. The stats do need slight refinement in places (Xan interestingly still have some significant advantages which are difficult to address easily, and one glaring weakness until tick 320 or so).

I would be keen to see more variance in the ship initiative, and some more ships per class, on the whole though I would definitely agree that alliance wise most have kept the playing field very level, and I hope that trend contintinues right the way throughout

Alliance discussions, well, it's the fix for insomnia I hope... if I can't fall asleep after constant exposure to here, then nothing will do it

Nova

[Treveler]

Personally I actually like bloks wars better. The main reason is that I need an obvious enemy to fight until we are dead or victorious. This "going at a random roidfat target" isnt as fun for me in the long run. Dont get me wrong I enjoy this round alot, but I also enjoyed the big blockwars. But my main point is that without a big bad enemy to kill, I find it harder to keep my motivation up.

[Jackal2112]

Whoever needs block wars to enjoy Planetarion should go play chess.

[Treveler]

I love ppl who flame others simply be course they have a different opinion.

And btw I play chess, just not atm.

[Colt]

That big bad enemy should be whoever is #1

[Colt]

sidenote: would be interesting if we had a few mini-wars, ie alliances decaring war on another alliance around the same size, like Mistu + ND for example, but i odubt that will happen

anyway, keep the good and enjoyable round going till the end, no lame blockS!!!!!!!!

[Slinky]

The really old days there were mini wars, galaxy wars, player wars, it wasn't just side a vs side b, there were loads of sides battling it out, true there was no such thing as intelligence in those days though so everyone just attacked everyone, but still, there were attempts

[The_Fish]

Originally Posted by Colt

sidenote: would be interesting if we had a few mini-wars, ie alliances decaring war on another alliance around the same size, like Mistu + ND for example, but i odubt that will happen

anyway, keep the good and enjoyable round going till the end, no lame blockS!!!!!!!!

to be honest, it would make no sense for us to go to war with MISTU, when LCH and 1up are so far superior to any other 2 alliances at the moment.

I am enjoying this round so far, but if 1up or LCH takes a big lead shortly, I dont think it would be the best round since p2p.

[Colt]

it was only an example

[Methedrine]

And 1Up/LCH have a big lead already.

[Nadar]

Originally Posted by Colt

sidenote: would be interesting if we had a few mini-wars

yeah.. where did all the "We declare war on <alliance>" threads go? I miss those days when alliances actually made it public on AD :\

[Little Timmy]

shame galaxy isnt big enough to have mini wars anymore.

But like Rob has said so far it has been an interesting round.....................

although it would be rather uncomfortable to find out that the admins might have had something to do with merging alliances...........please say it isnt true

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Methedrine

And 1Up/LCH have a big lead already.

Had

[Kjeldoran]

I've had better rounds, obviously ...

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by Psi_K

Had

You know, I wouldn't be proud of what Mistu has done right now.

[Forest]

Originally Posted by Nadar

yeah.. where did all the "We declare war on <alliance>" threads go? I miss those days when alliances actually made it public on AD :\

Sid wont let me declare war now :/

THough I must admit, the next person who launches a wave on the person with 110 roids in my galaxy, is gonna have a severely dead galaxy.

[Banned]

Originally Posted by Nadar

yeah.. where did all the "We declare war on <alliance>" threads go? I miss those days when alliances actually made it public on AD :\

If the Rainbow alliance were to declare war on anyone, we wouldn't actually go to AD with it. We'd instruct our BCs to pick targets where there were good opportunities for hitting our prefered targets along with other good targets.

One can ill afford being specifically targeted by another alliance now, so one has to be careful about what enemies know about what you're doing.

[Barrow|Pony]

Originally Posted by Colt

sidenote: would be interesting if we had a few mini-wars, ie alliances decaring war on another alliance around the same size, like Mistu + ND for example, but i odubt that will happen

anyway, keep the good and enjoyable round going till the end, no lame blockS!!!!!!!!

That wouldnt be interesting at all. While the two similar sized alliances pounded a way at each other, they would be violated from the rear by the top alliances looking for 'easy' roids.

[Forest]

Works for me, nothing like a little violation to get your roid count moving

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Zh|l

You know, I wouldn't be proud of what Mistu has done right now.

I wouldn't be proud of the huge PR 1up spread on AD the last couple of months, yet it happened anyway and you have contributed alot to it personally.

[Teh_Necro]

All i have to say about this round is this:

ADDICTED AGAIN FS

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

I wouldn't be proud of the huge PR 1up spread on AD the last couple of months, yet it happened anyway and you have contributed alot to it personally.

That's unfair to say, I haven't even posted that much recently.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Treveler

Personally I actually like bloks wars better.

Got to disagree with you mates, I personally don't think PA now has the memberbase size to have a decent block war, maybe a couple in ther past were a bitof fun, but now I don't think it is possible without ****ing the game up imo.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Zh|l

That's unfair to say, I haven't even posted that much recently.

mind the "last couple of months" ... You can't deny you've been one of the main 1up posters and have supported alot of rumours created by 1up officers and such ...

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

mind the "last couple of months" ... You can't deny you've been one of the main 1up posters and have supported alot of rumours created by 1up officers and such ...

Obviously I support my alliance.

And has been shown, it seems some were not 'rumour' after all.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Zh|l

Obviously I support my alliance.

And has been shown, it seems some were not 'rumour' after all.

so we did ally LCH (first rumour) or did we ally mistu (2nd rumour) or did I infact miss out on a rumour which you'll gladly fill me in about ... ?

whatever m8 ...

[Razorback]

Kj how is tp doing ?

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Zh|l

You know, I wouldn't be proud of what Mistu has done right now.

Nor would I be proud of the LCH/1up "co-operation" that was happening.
wait wait ... my bad ... 1up and LCH weren't specifically targeting FaNG and MISTU at the start of the round, that was just 'co-incidence'

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Psi_K

Nor would I be proud of the LCH/1up "co-operation" that was happening.
wait wait ... my bad ... 1up and LCH weren't specifically targeting FaNG and MISTU at the start of the round, that was just 'co-incidence'

No that wasnt coincidence. LCH declared war on you and you declared war on 1up after that. Noone to blame but yourself for going to war with more you can handle.

P.S. read Forks post if you have problems comprehending your alliance and Fang had a silent agreement to hit others/higher ranked alliances. Your own hc stated it there^^.

[jerome]

I've had fun all in all. Funny how, being in a wank gal, and be the only big planet attracts numerous waves a day on your gal. However, cross-deffing with a couple of randoms and a buddy has been especially fun for me heh. Nevertheless, i kinda like the political movements made this round, it's still wide open. Personal+Alliance rank wise, noone is guaranteed of anything so more fun to come :>

can't wait till school ends so i can put some effort in though ^^

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Razorback

No that wasnt coincidence. LCH declared war on you and you declared war on 1up after that. Noone to blame but yourself for going to war with more you can handle.

Yes, you are correct. However even if we didn't 'declare' war on 1up, we would have still be receiving the same ammount of co-operative incoming from both LCH and 1up. The war declairation was simply to point out the double alliance incoming.

P.S. read Forks post if you have problems comprehending your alliance and Fang had a silent agreement to hit others/higher ranked alliances. Your own hc stated it there^^.

What's wrong with that agreement ?
Sid proposed it ...

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Razorback

Kj how is tp doing ?

rather good, unlike most, he didn't run off when things got bad.

[Kjeldoran]

Originally Posted by Razorback

No that wasnt coincidence. LCH declared war on you and you declared war on 1up after that. Noone to blame but yourself for going to war with more you can handle.

P.S. read Forks post if you have problems comprehending your alliance and Fang had a silent agreement to hit others/higher ranked alliances. Your own hc stated it there^^.

I was on vacation then, I'm back now and I'm HC again now ...

[Colt]

Originally Posted by Razorback

P.S. read Forks post if you have problems comprehending your alliance and Fang had a silent agreement to hit others/higher ranked alliances. Your own hc stated it there^^.

id like to know which post by Fork you read as that certainly wasn't what he said in his opening thread...

Originally Posted by Fork

4. We have been attacking 1up as other alliances will also have (suppose it was easier to try to tie us with Fang as we were allied at the end of last round, so easier to try to make it stick.) [n.b. read points 1 and 2 again] MISTU have spoken with HC of other alliances and it seems they were also gunning for the top alliance as were we. We havent coordinated attacks with other alliances . (As previously stated in point 3 we do our own thing).

you mean that bit? Cos i dont see where he confirms MISTU had a silent agreement with FAnG there...

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Psi_K

Yes, you are correct. However even if we didn't 'declare' war on 1up, we would have still be receiving the same ammount of co-operative incoming from both LCH and 1up. The war declairation was simply to point out the double alliance incoming.

Thats bollox. 1up for one targetted only galaxyraids and did random picking, aka the fattest targets first. Your declaration of war came while you had lch on your butts already and the statistics for mistu clearly show when 1up and lch both targetted you more then before. The time you went down badly to spell it out. So how can they be cooperating before and after you force yourself onto a new enemy you start to lose ? That claim doesnt make sense on the background of the statistics....

What's wrong with that agreement ?
Sid proposed it ...

Nothing wrong with an agreement, its just funny how loud you whine that you get more incomings after declaring war on the rest of the top of the universe...
Omg lch and 1up dare to fire back after we are at war with them, joke ?

[Colt]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

rather good, unlike most, he didn't run off when things got bad.

not all those that left, left for the safety of their planets you know...

[Zh|l]

Originally Posted by Psi_K

Nor would I be proud of the LCH/1up "co-operation" that was happening.
wait wait ... my bad ... 1up and LCH weren't specifically targeting FaNG and MISTU at the start of the round, that was just 'co-incidence'

How I laugh. Mistu targetted 1up, and the 'first night' you got pwned was when LCH targetted you. I thought Mistu may have switched priorities after that, but still you relentlessly targetted 1up.

What were we supposed to do? Ignore you because you already had LCH incoming?

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Razorback

Thats bollox. 1up for one targetted only galaxyraids and did random picking, aka the fattest targets first. Your declaration of war came while you had lch on your butts already and the statistics for mistu clearly show when 1up and lch both targetted you more then before. The time you went down badly to spell it out. So how can they be cooperating before and after you force yourself onto a new enemy you start to lose ? That claim doesnt make sense on the background of the statistics....

Obviously you targeted random gals at the start of the round as co-ords gathering and scanning information wasn't avaliable.
The war declaration was announced once information starting showing up about possible threatening targets.
As 1up/LCH gained more MISTU targets, most incoming starting showing up from both alliances (PRE-WAR declaration (I wonder if he'll read that)).

Nothing wrong with an agreement, its just funny how loud you whine that you get more incomings after declaring war on the rest of the top of the universe...
Omg lch and 1up dare to fire back after we are at war with them, joke ?

loud I whine?
Personally I don't see any of my posts as "whining".
I couldn't care less if the top two alliances allied to take out one of their major threats, that's just good tactics IMO. BUT when the round is supposed to be a non-allied round, and so much co-operation exsists, it's just foolish.
The agreement that was proposed was to take down the number ONE alliance if they gained too much of a lead, NOT to take down any alliances that could challenge the number one spot. Don't know if people understood that, as that's exactly what they seemed to do.

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Zh|l

How I laugh. Mistu targetted 1up, and the 'first night' you got pwned was when LCH targetted you. I thought Mistu may have switched priorities after that, but still you relentlessly targetted 1up.

What were we supposed to do? Ignore you because you already had LCH incoming?

I believe 20-30% of the incoming was from 1up during the night we got "pwned".
"What were you supposed to do?" nothing, just continue on as you were doing. Seemed to work.

[Razorback]

You fail to see that LCH declared war on Mistu previous to any attacks 1up made on Mistu. Mistu declared war on 1up and 1up answered accordingly.

Why would 1up go with random targetting if someone declares war on them and if they have already strong incomings from various ppl, alone for beeing #1 ?
"Teaching a lesson" "giving them what they ask for" would only be 2 possible answers i could think 1up command came up with before launching for 1 night on mistu. The purpose ? Hitting an enemy who declared loudly he would show you.
Compare it to boxing, as a hvy weight you dont let a lightweight challenging you beat you up for 10 rounds while organising your lunch. You will punch him hard eventually knock him out and go to the next fight.

[Nitros]

Originally Posted by Razorback

You fail to see that LCH declared war on Mistu previous to any attacks 1up made on Mistu.

you fail to understand that AD made up crap about LCH owning/attacking MISTU etc, we never stated we are in war with anyone, AD did.

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Razorback

You fail to see that LCH declared war on Mistu previous to any attacks 1up made on Mistu. Mistu declared war on 1up and 1up answered accordingly.

It has nothing to do with failing to see it, it's that I don't believe what you're trying to make people believe.

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Psi_K

I believe 20-30% of the incoming was from 1up during the night we got "pwned".
"What were you supposed to do?" nothing, just continue on as you were doing. Seemed to work.

only 20-30% ? seems you werent exclusively tgted by one or 2 alliances, unless all other 70-80% were done by LCH.

Assuming you have maybe 50 planets under attack per night (every 2nd member) this would mean roughly 15-20 gal attacks on galaxys you have members in. 20-30% means roughly 3-4 galaxys with mistu in it were hit by 1up that doesnt seem to be a very coordinated efford to hit you. Especially since atleast 20-30 non mistu galm8s have been hit aswell. with only 10 other bigger alliances i think you will find mathematically quiet a few which had 20% of their incomings that night by 1up.

[Psi_K]

Originally Posted by Razorback

only 20-30% ? seems you werent exclusively tgted by one or 2 alliances, unless all other 70-80% were done by LCH.

Assuming you have maybe 50 planets under attack per night (every 2nd member) this would mean roughly 15-20 gal attacks on galaxys you have members in. 20-30% means roughly 3-4 galaxys with mistu in it were hit by 1up that doesnt seem to be a very coordinated efford to hit you. Especially since atleast 20-30 non mistu galm8s have been hit aswell. with only 10 other bigger alliances i think you will find mathematically quiet a few which had 20% of their incomings that night by 1up.

You switched from planets to galaxies in a heartbeat, making most of what you were trying to prove useless.

[Razorback]

Originally Posted by Psi_K

You switched from planets to galaxies in a heartbeat, making most of what you were trying to prove useless.

Not really considering 1up only does galaxy attacks.

[Shev]

Originally Posted by Kjeldoran

rather good, unlike most, he didn't run off when things got bad.

The "running off when things got bad" involved the fact that he was part of your alliance in a few cases heh. And in other cases was due to attack strategy.

[Forest]

He couldnt run off, no-one esle is stupid enough to take him.

[Forest]

BTW back on the original topic, maybe the round is abouts to get even better.

I cant see such alliances such as NewDawn and Vision taking the Mistu merger lying down, and if they decide to twat Mistu, maybe u will see some proper wars amongst the top 2 alliances, instead of constant one way incoming from certain parties

[Shev]

Originally Posted by Forest

BTW back on the original topic, maybe the round is abouts to get even better.

I cant see such alliances such as NewDawn and Vision taking the Mistu merger lying down, and if they decide to twat Mistu, maybe u will see some proper wars amongst the top 2 alliances, instead of constant one way incoming from certain parties

Actually, might be a nice way to spice up this round into more than a 'take down the #1' round.