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Unread 24 May 2008, 11:54   #1
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Defrag

A lot of people say the disk defragmenter that comes with Windows (any version) is shit.

Why is it shit?

What would be a good alternative for

a) Windows XP

and

b) Windows Vista.

???

Edit: Is this any good?
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Unread 24 May 2008, 12:24   #2
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Re: Defrag

Windows D.F. is kinda slow and lacks polish graphically. Also, if your file fragmentation rate is very high and you have little free space you may have to run it twice.

I still use it though. I doubt I'll ever care enough about defragmenting to change.
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Re: Defrag

The only real objection I have against Windows Defrag is the fact that you need 15% free disk space in order to be able to run it. In the past I've been forced to burn a bunch of DVDs to free the space required.

That said, I use it as well, simply because I'm too lazy to find a better one.
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Re: Defrag

It's shocking windows still uses a filesystem that needs to be defragmented.
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Unread 24 May 2008, 16:11   #5
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Re: Defrag

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It's shocking windows still uses a filesystem that needs to be defragmented.
Is this the part where you tell up that your're secretly a Mac user and burst into tears before you spend six weeks in rehab getting off the shininess of Apple?
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Unread 24 May 2008, 16:40   #6
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Re: Defrag

Okay, here's how you read this post:

Pick up a pen. Move your swivel chair back two arms-length away from your monitor. Outstretch an arm and place the pen in that hand. Turn counter-clockwise twice. Now attempt to flick the pen at your monitor. If the pen hits

This side

then the answer is yes. If it hits
This side
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Re: Defrag

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It's shocking windows still uses a filesystem that needs to be defragmented.
That part is debatable. As drives have become bigger & technology & file management changed there are many in the IT world that believe disk defragmenting is no longer relevant.
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Re: Defrag

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Windows D.F. is kinda slow and lacks polish graphically. Also, if your file fragmentation rate is very high and you have little free space you may have to run it twice.

I still use it though. I doubt I'll ever care enough about defragmenting to change.

Same, since when it does need doing i just set it to go and go to bed, so i dont have to see the thing doing it.

But for style points, the xp one gets the thumbs down wholeheartedly, 98 was much more fun to watch.
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Re: Defrag

Definite agree there.
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Re: Defrag

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It's shocking windows still uses a filesystem
It's shocking that your windows has a filesystem instead of keys/key cards.
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That part is debatable. As drives have become bigger & technology & file management changed there are many in the IT world that believe disk defragmenting is no longer relevant.
I always thought that unix-based filesystems mitigated or abated filesystem fragmentation. I had thought this because of my experience with unix filesystems, around 15 years. After you said that I checked a little bit, and I found out that those filesystems in fact do have defragmentation tools (I assumed they didn't need them...). Anyway, here's an explanation why FAT32 is pretty awful when it comes to fragmentation.
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Re: Defrag

No one uses FAT32 anymore, do they?
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Re: Defrag

I'm not going to research into NTFS, so let's just assume it's as bad.
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