Commando Ships - Landing Crafts - Anti Co-Op

[Greendog]

My suggestion is for an extra ship type, namely a Landing Craft. This ship would have a relatively high Init since its purpose is to kill agents and security guards.

The idea for this ship is to counter co-op players who themselves are immune to covert operations. It will also give a co-opper a chance to attack an immune player.

It is fairly easy now to make a planet immune to co-ops and once it is immune, that rules out a part of the game that can be played against them. Since security guards have a value attached to them, surely there should be away of attacking that value (Poisoning wont work on immune targets).

To fit this ship in, I would suggest one final tier of research and the ship class would be from the smallest pod that a race can have. These ships would sacrifice themselves on a successful landing.

[Veedeejem!]

Originally Posted by Greendog

The idea for this ship is to counter co-op players who themselves are immune to covert operations. It will also give a co-opper a chance to attack an immune player.

Cov oppers have a too low value to be attacked, making this ship useless to normal players.
Cov oppers themself don't need a ship to improve their cov opping.

Originally Posted by Greendog

It is fairly easy now to make a planet immune to co-ops and once it is immune, that rules out a part of the game that can be played against them. Since security guards have a value attached to them, surely there should be away of attacking that value (Poisoning wont work on immune targets).

There is nothing wrong with being immune to the most irritating part of the game.

[Monroe]

I personally think it is an interesting suggestion and should be fleshed out some.

How many guards/agents would each ship kill? I would think there should be a cap on the number of agents/guards that can be killed each tick, say 10% like structure killers?

I disagree that all covert oppers are tiny, some are decent sized, plus this would also allow people who are "immune" to be knocked down, I don't see that as bad. Perhaps rather then building a new ship, maybe structure killers could also kill agents/guards.

[HellKicker]

This idea is original and interesting, i think developers should put some thought into this. Good suggestion!

[Mzyxptlk]

When you lose roids, you can get revenge, but you cannot become immune.
When you get cov opped, you (generally) can't take revenge, but you can become immune.

I like this system and see no reason to change it.

[Makhil]

I favor the addition of a landing ship but not to counter cov ops, rather to take control of buildings or kill the population (reducing the bonus they allow)

[hairypalms]

http://pirate.planetarion.com/showth...ght=slave+ship

prehaps make security guards part of a planets population, a formula for the growth of population can easily be made and i agree becoming immune is too easy and effectively has the potential to remove part of the game (thank god for noobs) :P

good post greendog

[Veedeejem!]

Covert ops make baby jesus cry!

[Mzyxptlk]

I agree that becoming immune is a little bit too easy, but I'd rather see Agents/Guards removed (sorry Appoco!) than this ship added.

[hairypalms]

actually yeh im with Mz on this id rather see agents and security guards removed

[Zeyi]

Originally Posted by hairypalms

actually yeh im with Mz on this id rather see agents and security guards removed

Thats fine if you're one of the few players who actually enjoys covert operations, however the other 1000 or so who despise it might want to stay immune?

We cannot retaliate against you, it's easy for a cov opper to consistently hit someone without getting hit back. So it should be easy to become immune to such things.

It annoys me enough that I have to pay 10k res every tick to employ security guards, plus the initial cost. Without them we'd be reliant on security centres, and most of us actually playing the game properly would rather have other buildings.

Sorry for the rant, but I think that was quite an absurd suggestion in favour only of yourself and this covop ally you're putting together.

[Mzyxptlk]

It was easy before guards showed up.

Get SCs. Use population. If everyone has to, no one loses out. I don't see the problem.

I would like to add that I've not played a cov op planet in over a year, nor intend to do so any time soon, just in case you're going to question my motivation instead of (crazy idea!) my arguments.

[MrLobster]

You dont need to remove anything, just give the agents/guards a stacking penalty, so you can never reach 100%.