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Sirad · 3 Apr 2003, 18:29

in light of there Top galaxy containing Hc/officers of said alliance, dose this mean they support cheating for there members also?. and if not what actions do they take when they find members in there alliance cheating.

Axis_WLF · 3 Apr 2003, 18:31

Will WP kick the members of their alliance whom cheat? That is my only question to them and I hope WP reply to this.

Petru · 3 Apr 2003, 18:42

Their own HC (hi Rabba) is under continuing investigation for farming andn ship farming.

Doesn't this answer the question?

TrinTara · 3 Apr 2003, 18:46

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
Will WP kick the members of their alliance whom cheat? That is my only question to them and I hope WP reply to this.

Will WP's allies continue to deal with them if they don't?

Trin

Agamemnon · 3 Apr 2003, 18:47

Well come on...
They take in defectors and ppl in Killmarks galaxy at that, their HC farm and they blatantly mass recruit.

Simply trying to live up to the name they don't by any means deserve, and that through any means neccessary.

Pathetic

MadeMan · 3 Apr 2003, 19:08

well i would love to see some wp hc answers on this one.

Le Mauvais Moine · 3 Apr 2003, 19:09

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Originally posted by Agamemnon

Pathetic

Agreed

cypher · 3 Apr 2003, 19:12

if rabba has any honour he would resign himself like some other hc's have done in the past...

even tho i expect nothing more then the fang method here...

'being closed but not being guilty and staying as member/hc/etc'

xtothez · 3 Apr 2003, 19:16

Rabba has already quit as HC.

This was seriously low. Do you really have nothing better to do?

Cochese · 3 Apr 2003, 19:21

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Originally posted by xtothez
Rabba has already quit as HC.

This was seriously low. Do you really have nothing better to do?

It's not as if I'm out looking for cheaters around every corner and under every rock. We happened to be hitting his galaxy, and of course scanned them, which turned up these results.

Pure conicidence I guess.

As for low, you're really not in a position to call us "low" when your own HC was the one breaking rules.

General1 · 3 Apr 2003, 19:22

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Originally posted by MadeMan
well i would love to see some wp hc answers on this one.

U tell us u where PACK this rd

mjrTorspo · 3 Apr 2003, 19:23

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Originally posted by Cochese
As for low, you're really not in a position to call us "low" when your own HC was the one breaking rules.

afaik Rabba has never been HC to our sexeh X->Z

Stress · 3 Apr 2003, 19:23

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Originally posted by Cochese
It's not as if I'm out looking for cheaters around every corner and under every rock. We happened to be hitting his galaxy, and of course scanned them, which turned up these results.

Pure conicidence I guess.

As for low, you're really not in a position to call us "low" when your own HC was the one breaking rules.

Xto is pack ?

Paine · 3 Apr 2003, 19:24

I think its pretty pathetic to blame an entire alliance for the actions of one individual. If that were the case, then VVOMM (excluding Vision) would have been kicked from the game a long time ago.

Paine

Axis_WLF · 3 Apr 2003, 19:24

VtS in the past have openly booted members whom were caught doing NO NO's. I expect WP to extend the same to the PA community to save whats left of their alliances integrity. They can either do this or go down in flames with the cheaters.

Paine · 3 Apr 2003, 19:24

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Originally posted by Stress
Xto is pack ?

XtoZ is Ely....

Paine

Toop · 3 Apr 2003, 19:25

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Originally posted by xtothez

This was seriously low. Do you really have nothing better to do?

It was to be expected

xtothez · 3 Apr 2003, 19:26

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Originally posted by Cochese
It's not as if I'm out looking for cheaters around every corner and under every rock. We happened to be hitting his galaxy, and of course scanned them, which turned up these results.

Pure conicidence I guess.

As for low, you're really not in a position to call us "low" when your own HC was the one breaking rules.

I dont disagree with scanning and finding him, well done for the thorough investigation and handling it in the correct manner. I'm saying its low to start generalising a whole alliance for the actions of one person, who has already quit.

And as I'm Elysium, Rabba has never been my HC.

Stress · 3 Apr 2003, 19:27

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
VtS in the past have openly booted members whom were caught doing NO NO's. I expect WP to extend the same to the PA community to save whats left of their alliances integrity. They can either do this or go down in flames with the cheaters.

ehhr, i clearly rmember a case where the player was not dragd threw mud on anny forum tho, but given the chanse to respond and resign before everyone jumped on the bandwagon

Paine · 3 Apr 2003, 19:28

Norseman has made a fairly good point, which I would like to build on with a question.

Is this situation going to be treated any differently to any other cheating situation (by alliance and creators in question)?

If not, then I see no real need for the hastle and fussle happening on this thread (and others).

Paine

Cochese · 3 Apr 2003, 19:29

Stand corrected then.

*edit* And yes, this thread is a bit pointless imho */edit*

Axis_WLF · 3 Apr 2003, 19:29

TheUNknown excellant guy but did a no no, He and VtS HC responded on AD forums about his case.

Stress · 3 Apr 2003, 19:32

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
TheUNknown excellant guy but did a no no, He and VtS HC responded on AD forums about his case.

I recall him resigning, and other leaving it at that tho.

Sirad · 3 Apr 2003, 20:03

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Originally posted by Paine
Norseman has made a fairly good point, which I would like to build on with a question.

Is this situation going to be treated any differently to any other cheating situation (by alliance and creators in question)?

If not, then I see no real need for the hastle and fussle happening on this thread (and others).

Paine

anyone who is suspected of cheating in the alliance i reside in is reported equally as fast as anyone suspected of cheating outside of it, thanks.
As this was a case of there (now former) HC doing it and officers in the galaxy who most likely knew about it, the question still stands.

mens · 3 Apr 2003, 20:04

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Originally posted by Cochese
We happened to be hitting his galaxy, and of course scanned them

We didn't loose any roids.
yes wp suck, n00bs, etc.etc.

Le Mauvais Moine · 3 Apr 2003, 20:05

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Originally posted by Axis_WLF
TheUNknown excellant guy but did a no no, He and VtS HC responded on AD forums about his case.

It a bit of a different thing to take over an account at the beginning of a round than to obviously ship farm. Both is against the rules, but there's a difference between betraying somebody and parking your car on the wrong side of the road.

My point is, for TU it's been considerably easier to make a stance.

cypher · 3 Apr 2003, 20:06

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Originally posted by Stress
I recall him resigning, and other leaving it at that tho.

he made a statement on forums

ow and btw stress
nice job

think you know what i mean

this in NO way meant it had anything to do with this thread hehe

just something completely else sorry:P

Storebo · 3 Apr 2003, 20:12

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Originally posted by cyphie
he made a statement on forums

ow and btw stress
nice job think you know what i mean

his breast implants?
yes they look nice don't they?

Stress · 3 Apr 2003, 20:15

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Originally posted by cyphie
he made a statement on forums

ow and btw stress
nice job think you know what i mean

allthoug i apprishiate that u noticed

this is not the place to mention it

as it has nothing to do with this case, and some might think it has :/

Cicada · 3 Apr 2003, 20:36

different circumstances though..

tu was found to be cheating, resigned and was deleted

rabba was found to be cheating, was wrist slapped and was deleted after an uproar...

the original point of the forum posts has nothing to do with Rabba or his position as WP HC, but to do with the fact that he was caught cheating, but was allowed to get away with it...

Stress · 3 Apr 2003, 20:41

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Originally posted by Cicada
different circumstances though..

tu was found to be cheating, resigned and was deleted

rabba was found to be cheating, was wrist slapped and was deleted after an uproar...

the original point of the forum posts has nothing to do with Rabba or his position as WP HC, but to do with the fact that he was caught cheating, but was allowed to get away with it...

From some yes, others did not show that curtisy tho.

mens · 3 Apr 2003, 20:43

I LOVE YOU RABBA.

WHICH GAME ARE WE GONNA PLAY NOW?

Let's play Yatzy.

HOPupNdown · 3 Apr 2003, 20:53

not much of a surprise really ...

a HC being closed for cheating is really amusing tho

Cochese · 3 Apr 2003, 21:00

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Originally posted by mens
We didn't loose any roids.
yes wp suck, n00bs, etc.etc.

The attack may not have "worked" at all, but your galaxy still lost
2400+ roids with Rabba's closure. Much more than we would/could have stolen.

I've never called WP n00bs either, and in our defense, it was a lackluster effort to say the least.

Axis_WLF · 3 Apr 2003, 21:12

yes the point I was trying to make was he was caught cheating and removed from the alliance no matter what form of cheating it is it serves as no justifacation to remain in command or in the alliance.

MadeMan · 3 Apr 2003, 21:30

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Originally posted by General1
U tell us u where PACK this rd

Well when i saw what mistake i had done with joinign them i left, And l8r i have seen theyre unorganising hurt two galm8s.

Whis · 3 Apr 2003, 21:33

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Originally posted by xtothez
Rabba has already quit as HC.

This was seriously low. Do you really have nothing better to do?

N0VA · 3 Apr 2003, 21:59

I am not here to say that people should turn a blind eye on cheating, but I will say that I am nauseated by the hypocrisy this thread is filled with. I know a good deal of names in this thread that have either worked with cheaters, benefitted from cheaters, or have cheated themselves.

When the creators make their final decision with regards to Rabbagast, no matter what it is, it will not change my opinion of him. He is an extraordinary commander and player as well. He has brought a lot to the game, and a lot of people owe their successes in it to him.

The two rounds that I was in his galaxy, he attacked every night, was online when his fleets went out and also right before landing. Multiple times in those rounds, he would oversleep and lose large portions of his fleet. But he would always rebuild and keep putting out his fleet every night. He did really well and earned every point. Never once did he ask me to log in for him, nor did he ever tell me his login info.

I hope that WP does not ask Rabbagast to step down over this incident - he was there when they needed him, so they should be there for him as well. I can say with conviction that WP would have remained in shambles throughout R6 were it not for Rabbagast at the helm.

Rabba will always have the utmost respect from me as both a player and a friend.

hAl · 3 Apr 2003, 22:03

Mayby the remaining HC can remove 48:4 from their midst as well. Cleansing out the WP ranks from all their dubieus players would seem like the correct idea atm !!!

hAl

Hicks · 3 Apr 2003, 22:42

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Originally posted by N0VA
I am not here to say that people should turn a blind eye on cheating, but I will say that I am nauseated by the hypocrisy this thread is filled with. I know a good deal of names in this thread that have either worked with cheaters, benefitted from cheaters, or have cheated themselves.

So very true. The outcry when someone get's caught is always amusing though.

Valle the rocker · 3 Apr 2003, 23:02

cheating rules :|

3 Apr 2003, 23:31

Rabba is an honest guy, he was good in the beta and good this round, why people do this i dont know. What makes it worse they probably newsies him using Scan planets, which makes me sick tbh.

/me opens the Open Rabba Campaign

p.s. making ship farming illegal is just one more step towards communism.

DIE PRINCE

lokken · 3 Apr 2003, 23:55

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Originally posted by Dreadnought!

p.s. making ship farming illegal is just one more step towards communism.

DIE PRINCE

[25-Feb] [23:49:48] <@CH> 5) Dreadnought (present) asked: Is Ship farming Illegal in r9?
[25-Feb] [23:50:30] <@Spinner> Yes, ship farming is illegal

RAR!

And wishing death on a creator, though tempting at times, is a tadge excessive.

4 Apr 2003, 00:00

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Originally posted by lokken
[25-Feb] [23:49:48] <@CH> 5) Dreadnought (present) asked: Is Ship farming Illegal in r9?
[25-Feb] [23:50:30] <@Spinner> Yes, ship farming is illegal

RAR!

And wishing death on a creator, though tempting at times, is a tadge excessive.

When u said u owned me i thought u were serious :/

Cochese · 4 Apr 2003, 00:03

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Originally posted by Dreadnought!
Rabba is an honest guy, he was good in the beta and good this round, why people do this i dont know. What makes it worse they probably newsies him using Scan planets, which makes me sick tbh.

/me opens the Open Rabba Campaign

Yes, like most alliances, MadCows have a few members who, because they can't be super-active, are scanners. They are real people, not bots, and their accounts are paid for.

You know what happens when you assume things Dread.

K-W · 4 Apr 2003, 00:08

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Originally posted by Cochese
Yes, like most alliances, MadCows have a few members who, because they can't be super-active, are scanners. They are real people, not bots, and their accounts are paid for.

You know what happens when you assume things Dread.

You live happily ever after?

Hicks · 4 Apr 2003, 00:09

So none of Madcows have ever cheated ? No Madcows members own multi scan bases ? Get down off the soap box

Cheating is crap but I doubt any of the alliances today have the balls to do anything about it which would warrent all the high and mighty attitudes in this thread.

lokken · 4 Apr 2003, 00:09

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Originally posted by Dreadnought!
When u said u owned me i thought u were serious :/

It's just fking stupid when you go wishing death on people on forums.

Cochese · 4 Apr 2003, 00:28

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Originally posted by Hicks
So none of Madcows have ever cheated ? No Madcows members own multi scan bases ? Get down off the soap box

Dread was hinting that illegal scan planets were used, when in fact they were not. Don't stray from the issue in an attempt to troll, it's very unbecoming of someone I expect a more structured argument from.

I'm not on a soapbox, and if you would drop the veil of ignorance shrouding your judgment for just a moment, you'd see that.

Then again, I have never in my 2 years with Cows every stated we were a super-clean, goodie-two shoes alliance with no cheating at all.

If I had, then you're comments would be justified. As it stands now, you're just firing blindly, and have shot yourself in the process.

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Cheating is crap but I doubt any of the alliances today have the balls to do anything about it which would warrent all the high and mighty attitudes in this thread.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: any cheaters I've found in my alliance (mostly login sharing thus far) have been reported as fast as I can either PM Prince, or compose an email and send it. Subsequently, they were dismissed.

Balls? No, seems like common sense to me.

High and mighty? No, just replying honestly to people posting a lot of garbage.

Razorback · 4 Apr 2003, 01:14

I agree with cochese, every alliance has the responsibility to report and punish their cheaters. Might not always be a pleasure but if u close your eyes youll soon be in a bot army

Eclipse has reported and booted all members we found guilty on cheating this round, and where we had enough evidence, if evidence misses, members get a warning and on further incidents they can be sure their membership is removed without questioning again. 2 times in doubt is unrealistic.