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Question [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

LEAGUE #12... posted earlier due to league #11's low turnout.

Start date is 30th November - the League Cup quarter-finals.

As agreed, Leagues #12 and #13 feature a number of Dutch matches (11 in total, before what I assume is their winter break).

You don't have to have played previous leagues to join in with this one. Just edit a fixture post to include your guesses (either "THE WHOLE THING" or just "PART 1" if you're pushed for time/easily bored)

I explained the scoring system the other day, link here

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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

LEAGUE #12 - PART 2
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10CH West Ham - Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace - Blackburn
11PR Everton - Liverpool
11PR Man City - Tottenham
11PR Newcastle - Portsmouth
11PR Norwich - Bolton
11PR Southampton - Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom - Charlton

11CH Derby - Nottm Forest
11CH QPR - Ipswich
11CH Cardiff - Sunderland
11CH Watford - Wolves
11CH Leicester - Reading
11ED AZ - FC Twente
11SP Rangers - Dundee

12ED Ajax - Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord - PSV
12PR Arsenal - Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa - Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline - Celtic
13PR Fulham - Man Utd
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

LEAGUE #12 - PART 1

30LC Fulham - Chelsea
30LC Watford - Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd - Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham - Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar - Rangers

03ED RKC - Ajax
04ED De Graafschap - PSV
04ED FC Twente - FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal - Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa - Liverpool
04PR Blackburn - Tottenham
04PR Chelsea - Newcastle
04PR Everton - Bolton
04PR Man Utd - Southampton
04PR Norwich - Fulham
04PR Portsmouth - West Brom

04CH Derby - Coventry
04CH Leeds - Leicester
04CH Millwall - Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland - West Ham
04CH Wolves - Reading
04SP Celtic - Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord - NEC
05PR Crystal Palace - Charlton
05SP Inverness CT - Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough - Man City [J]
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 1-2 Chelsea
30LC Watford 0-1 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 2-0 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 0-2 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 0-1 Rangers

03ED RKC 0-1 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0-2 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1-0 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 2-0 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 1-0 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 1-0 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 2-1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 2-0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 2-0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 0-2 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 1-1 West Brom

04CH Derby 2-0 Coventry
04CH Leeds 2-0 Leicester
04CH Millwall 1-2 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 2-1 West Ham
04CH Wolves 1-2 Reading
04SP Celtic 2-1 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 1-0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 0-1 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 2-2 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 1-0 Man City [J]

10CH West Ham 1-1 Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace 1-0 Blackburn
11PR Everton 1-2 Liverpool
11PR Man City 2-0 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 2-0 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 0-1 Bolton
11PR Southampton0 2- Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 1-1 Charlton

11CH Derby 2-2 Nottm Forest
11CH QPR 2-2 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 1-2 Sunderland
11CH Watford 1-2 Wolves
11CH Leicester 0-1 Reading
11ED AZ 0-1 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 0-0 Dundee

12ED Ajax 2-0 Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord 2-1 PSV
12PR Arsenal 1-2 Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa 2-0 Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline 0-2 Celtic
13PR Fulham 0-1 Man Utd
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

i have great faith in my predictions, even in those leagues for which i have never seen a league table, i mean christ, i only guess anyway heh
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

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Code:
		pld w	d  l   f   a  pts
PSV		13  11	2  0  33   5  35	
AZ		13  9	3  1  33  11  30	
Feyenoord	13  8	2  3  35  15  26	
Ajax		13  7	4  2  30  15  25	
Heerenveen	13  7	2  4  23  21  23	
FC Utrecht	13  6	3  4  20  17  21	
NAC		13  6	2  5  23  32  20	
Vitesse		13  6	2  5  21  18  20	
FC Groningen	13  5	4  4  22  21  19	
Willem II	13  5	2  6  19  22  17	
Roda JC		13  4	4  5  21  23  16	
FC Twente	13  4	2  7  15  18  14	
RKC		13  3	5  5  15  19  14	
NEC		13  3	4  6  13  16  13	
ADO Den Haag	13  3	2  8  18  24  11	
FC Den Bosch	13  2	3  8  10  33   9	
RBC		13  2	1  10 15  36   7	
De Graafschap	13  0	5  8  13  33   5
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I think i'll start supporting Roda JC instead .
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 0 - 2 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1 - 0 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 0 - 1 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 2 - 1 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 0 - 0 Rangers

03ED RKC 1 - 2 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0 - 0 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1 - 0 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 1 - 0 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 2 - 2 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 1 - 2 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 2 - 1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 1 - 1 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 2 - 0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1 - 0 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 1 - 0 West Brom

04CH Derby 1 - 2 Coventry
04CH Leeds 2 - 0 Leicester
04CH Millwall 1 - 0 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 1 - 1 West Ham
04CH Wolves 0 - 1 Reading
04SP Celtic 2 - 0 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 2 - 1 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 2 - 3 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2 - 2 Man City [J]

10CH West Ham 1 - 3 Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Blackburn
11PR Everton 0 - 1 Liverpool
11PR Man City 1 - 0 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 1 - 1 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 0 - 0 Bolton
11PR Southampton 1 - 2 Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 1 - 1 Charlton

11CH Derby 1 - 2 Nottm Forest
11CH QPR 1 - 1 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 2 - 1 Sunderland
11CH Watford 1 - 2 Wolves
11CH Leicester 1 - 0 Reading
11ED AZ 0 - 1 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 1 - 0 Dundee

12ED Ajax 2 - 0 Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord 1 - 1 PSV
12PR Arsenal 0 - 0 Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa 1 - 0 Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline 0 - 1 Celtic
13PR Fulham 1 - 0 Man Utd
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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 1 - 3 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1 - 2 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 2 - 0 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 1 - 1 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 1 - 1 Rangers

03ED RKC 1 - 3 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0 - 2 PSV
04ED FC Twente 3 - 1 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 3 - 0 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 1 - 3 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 0 - 2 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 2 - 1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 2 - 0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 3 - 0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 0 - 2 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 2 - 1 West Brom

04CH Derby 1 - 0 Coventry
04CH Leeds 2 - 1 Leicester
04CH Millwall 2 - 1 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 0 - 2 West Ham
04CH Wolves 2 - 0 Reading
04SP Celtic 3 - 1 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 3 - 0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 0 - 4Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Man City [J]

10CH West Ham 0 - 1 Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Blackburn
11PR Everton 2 - 2 Liverpool
11PR Man City 1 - 2 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 2 - 0 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 1 - 0 Bolton
11PR Southampton 0 - 2 Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 1 - 1 Charlton

11CH Derby 1 - 2 Nottm Forest
11CH QPR 2 - 1 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 2 - 0 Sunderland
11CH Watford 1 - 2 Wolves
11CH Leicester 2 - 0 Reading
11ED AZ 3 - 1 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 3 - 1 Dundee

12ED Ajax 2 - 1 Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord 2 - 1 PSV
12PR Arsenal 1 - 2 Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa 1 - 1 Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline 0 - 3 Celtic
13PR Fulham 1 - 3 Man Utd
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

Hmm, only entered one of these before - but i'm bored so might as well enter.
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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 0 - 3 Chelsea
30LC Watford 2 - 1 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 2 - 1 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 1 - 2 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 1 - 1 Rangers

03ED RKC 0 - 2 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0 - 4 PSV
04ED FC Twente 2 - 1 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 3 - 1 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 2 - 0 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 1 - 1 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 3 - 1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 1 - 0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 3 - 0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1 - 2 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 1 - 1 West Brom

04CH Derby 2 - 0 Coventry
04CH Leeds 1 - 1 Leicester
04CH Millwall 1 - 1 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 2 - 1 West Ham
04CH Wolves 1 - 1 Reading
04SP Celtic 2 - 0 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 3 - 0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 1 - 2 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 0 - 2 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Man City [J]

10CH West Ham 2 - 0 Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Blackburn
11PR Everton 1 - 0 Liverpool
11PR Man City 1 - 1 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 3 - 1 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 1 - 2 Bolton
11PR Southampton 0 - 2 Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 2 - 1 Charlton

11CH Derby 2 - 0 Nottm Forest ( it's that bad )
11CH QPR 1 - 1 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 1 - 2 Sunderland
11CH Watford 0 - 0 Wolves
11CH Leicester 0 - 0 Reading
11ED AZ 2 - 0 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 2 - 0 Dundee

12ED Ajax 2 - 1 Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord 1 - 1 PSV
12PR Arsenal 2 - 2 Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa 2 - 1 Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline 0 - 3 Celtic
13PR Fulham 1 - 3 Man Utd
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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 0-3 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1-1 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 2-1 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 1-2 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 1-1 Rangers

03ED RKC 1-3 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0-4 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1-1 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 2-1 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 1-1 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 1-0 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 3-1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 1-0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 3-0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1-0 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 2-0 West Brom

04CH Derby 2-1 Coventry
04CH Leeds 2-1 Leicester
04CH Millwall 1-1 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 1-0 West Ham
04CH Wolves 0-1 Reading
04SP Celtic 3-1 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 2- 0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 1-2 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 0-2 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2-0 Man City [J]

10CH West Ham 1-0 Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace 1-1 Blackburn
11PR Everton 0-1 Liverpool
11PR Man City 1-0 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 2-0 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 1-2 Bolton
11PR Southampton 1-2 Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 0-0 Charlton

11CH Derby 3-1 Nottm Forest *crosses fingers*
11CH QPR 1-1 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 0-1 Sunderland
11CH Watford 2-0 Wolves
11CH Leicester 1-1 Reading
11ED AZ 2-0 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 2-0 Dundee

12ED Ajax 1-0 Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord 1-2 PSV
12PR Arsenal - Chelsea [J] <---can someone remind me to do this nearer the time please?
12PR Aston Villa 2-0 Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline 0-2 Celtic
13PR Fulham 1-3 Man Utd
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Is that good or bad?
quite good... it's too small a sample to definitively say you're a great predictor
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LEAGUE #12 - PART 1

30LC Fulham 0-3 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1-0 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 2-1 Arsenal [J] (can we put bets on # of cards? )
01LC Tottenham 1-0 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 0-2 Rangers

03ED RKC 0-2 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 1-1 PSV
04ED FC Twente 0-2 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 3-0 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 1-0 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 2-2 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 1-0 Newcastle
04PR Everton 0-1 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 4-0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1-1 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 0-2 West Brom

04CH Derby 0-1 Coventry
04CH Leeds 1-1 Leicester
04CH Millwall 1-0 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 2-0 West Ham
04CH Wolves 1-0 Reading
04SP Celtic 3-1 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 0-0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 0-2 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 0-2 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 1-3 Man City [J]
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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 0 - 3 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1 - 2 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 1- 2 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 0 - 2 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 0 - 4 Rangers

03ED RKC 1 - 3 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 1 - 2 PSV
04ED FC Twente 2 - 0 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 4 - 0 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 0 - 1 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 1 - 0 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 2 - 0 Newcastle
04PR Everton 2 - 1 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 1 - 0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 0 - 1 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 2 - 0 West Brom

04CH Derby 2 - 0 Coventry
04CH Leeds 3 - 0 Leicester
04CH Millwall 1 - 1 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 2 - 0 West Ham
04CH Wolves 0 - 0 Reading
04SP Celtic 2 - 0 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 1 - 0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 0 - 2 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 1 - 3 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2 - 0 Man City [J]

10CH West Ham 0 - 2 Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace 1 - 3 Blackburn
11PR Everton 1 - 0 Liverpool
11PR Man City 1 - 0 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 3 - 2 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 1 - 2 Bolton
11PR Southampton 1 - 0 Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 0 - 2 Charlton

11CH Derby 0 - 1 Nottm Forest
11CH QPR 2 - 1 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 0 - 2 Sunderland
11CH Watford 1 - 1 Wolves
11CH Leicester 2 - 0 Reading
11ED AZ 0 - 2 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 2 - 0 Dundee

12ED Ajax 1 - 0 Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord 2 - 1 PSV
12PR Arsenal 1 - 0 Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa 1 - 0 Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline 0 - 3 Celtic
13PR Fulham 0 - 3 Man Utd
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LEAGUE #12 - PART 1

30LC Fulham 1-2 Chelsea
30LC Watford 2-1 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 3-1 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 1-2 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 1-2 Rangers

03ED RKC 0-2 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 1-3 PSV
04ED FC Twente 2-1 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 2-0 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 1-1 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 1-2 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 2-0 Newcastle
04PR Everton 1-0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 2-0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1-1 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 1-2 West Brom

04CH Derby 2-1 Coventry
04CH Leeds 2-0 Leicester
04CH Millwall 1-1 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 2-1 West Ham
04CH Wolves 1-2 Reading
04SP Celtic 3-1 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 2-0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 2-1 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 0-3 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2-1 Man City [J]
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LEAGUE #12 - PART 1

30LC Fulham 0-3 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1-1 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 1-0 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 2-1 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 0-2 Rangers

03ED RKC 0-2 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0-4 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1-0 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 3-1 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 1-1 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 2-1 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 3-1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 2-0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 3-1 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1-0 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 2-0 West Brom

04CH Derby 2-0 Coventry
04CH Leeds 2-1 Leicester
04CH Millwall 2-1 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 2-0 West Ham
04CH Wolves 3-2 Reading
04SP Celtic 3-1 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 2-0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 1-1 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 1-3 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2-1 Man City [J]
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Only 9 ppl so far, including Ste, why are numbers dwindling?
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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 2-4 Chelsea
30LC Watford 2-1 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 1-0 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 1-2 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 0-1 Rangers

03ED RKC 0-3 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 1-2 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1-1 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 3-0 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 2-0 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 1-1 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 3-2 Newcastle
04PR Everton 2 -2 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 3 -0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1-1 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 0 -1 West Brom

04CH Derby 2-1 Coventry
04CH Leeds 1-0 Leicester
04CH Millwall 0 -0 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 3-3 West Ham
04CH Wolves 3-2 Reading
04SP Celtic 3 -1 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 1-0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 1 -1 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 0-2 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2-1 Man City [J]

10CH West Ham 2 -0 Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace 1 -1 Blackburn
11PR Everton 1-1 Liverpool
11PR Man City 0-0 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 3-0 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 1-2 Bolton
11PR Southampton 0-2 Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 0 -0 Charlton

11CH Derby 2-2 Nottm Forest
11CH QPR 2-0 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 0 -1 Sunderland
11CH Watford 0-1 Wolves
11CH Leicester 2-1 Reading
11ED AZ 1 -1 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 2-1 Dundee

12ED Ajax 3-1 Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord2 -2 PSV
12PR Arsenal 2-3 Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa 3-0 Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline 1-3 Celtic
13PR Fulham 1 -4 Man Utd
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Only 9 ppl so far, including Ste, why are numbers dwindling?


I thought the low number in league #11 was down to posting the list late, but it seems people leave it till the last minute, and then don't bother if they miss the start.

For some it's probably become "samey", or they''ve done badly before and that puts them off, or they hate certain leagues. I'll continue to run it for those that want to play, but obviously it will end someday.
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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 0 - 2 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1 - 2 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 1 - 2 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 1 - 3 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 0 - 2 Rangers

03ED RKC 0 - 2 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0 - 1 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1 - 1 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 2 - 1 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 1 - 1 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 2 - 1 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 3 - 1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 2 - 0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 3 - 0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1 - 1 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 2 - 0 West Brom

04CH Derby 2 - 1 Coventry
04CH Leeds 1 - 0 Leicester
04CH Millwall 0 - 1 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 2 - 1 West Ham
04CH Wolves 1 - 0 Reading
04SP Celtic 3 - 0 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 2 - 0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 1 - 1 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 1 - 3 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2 - 1 Man City [J]

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11PR Crystal Palace 1 - 0 Blackburn
11PR Everton 1 - 1 Liverpool
11PR Man City 2 - 0 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 2 - 0 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 1 - 0 Bolton
11PR Southampton 1 - 1 Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 0 - 1 Charlton

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11CH QPR 1 - 1 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 1 - 2 Sunderland
11CH Watford 1 - 1 Wolves
11CH Leicester 2 - 1 Reading
11ED AZ 1 - 1 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 3 - 1 Dundee

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12PR Arsenal 1 - 1 Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa 2 - 1 Birmingham
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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

30LC Fulham 0 - 2 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1 - 3 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 2 - 1 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 2 - 1 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 1 - 1 Rangers

03ED RKC 1 - 2 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 1 - 3 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1 - 0 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 2 - 0 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 2 - 1 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 1 - 1 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 3 - 1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 1 - 0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 4 - 0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1 - 1 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 2 - 1 West Brom

04CH Derby 2 - 0 Coventry
04CH Leeds 2 - 1 Leicester
04CH Millwall 2 - 0 Sheffield Utd (At LEAST 2 red cards)
04CH Sunderland 1 - 0 West Ham
04CH Wolves 1 - 3 Reading
04SP Celtic 3 - 2 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 3 - 0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 2 - 1 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 1 - 4 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2 - 1 Man City [J]

10CH West Ham 3 - 0 Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace 2 - 0 Blackburn
11PR Everton 1 - 1 Liverpool
11PR Man City 2 - 1 Tottenham
11PR Newcastle 2 - 1 Portsmouth
11PR Norwich 1 - 2 Bolton
11PR Southampton 0 - 2 Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom 2 - 2 Charlton

11CH Derby 3 - 0 Nottm Forest
11CH QPR 1 - 2 Ipswich
11CH Cardiff 2 - 1 Sunderland
11CH Watford 2 - 0 Wolves
11CH Leicester 1 - 2 Reading
11ED AZ 2 - 1 FC Twente
11SP Rangers 3 - 1 Dundee

12ED Ajax 4 - 0 Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord 1 - 3 PSV
12PR Arsenal 1 - 2 Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa 2 - 0 Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline 1 - 3 Celtic
13PR Fulham 2 - 1 Man Utd
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Hes got more to fear from Koen than he has to fear from me, especially now Dutchie football is here!

Managed a draw at the weekend without predicting. Amazing stuff. And ill prolly miss next weeks as well since im away Christmas Shopping.
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Only 9 ppl so far, including Ste, why are numbers dwindling?

I would put it down to too many games. In all of last season we only had 583 games, so far this season we have already had 536 with over 100 already had this month. We have gone from 20-25 games a week/fortnight to nearly 50. On top of this we have the DS9 league and the extra Champions League which last year were included in the main league of just 583 games.There are also now more less well known teams which is probably off putting for people as they don't like just guessing.
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I was lured here by the promise of "hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action".

There was a singular failure to deliver on this promise. In fact, I would go so far as to say that there was some element of fraud and gangsterism at work.


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PL#05 P50 X10 G19 49 Pts (1st) PPG 0.98

a contender for PPG #1
hehe ye I was surprised when I won that one was gonna do #11 but saw that I had missed it, well hoepfully I will do well in this one.

I love this though gets me thinking about the matches in the days to come and what bets to make at the bookies.
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I would put it down to too many games. In all of last season we only had 583 games, so far this season we have already had 536 with over 100 already had this month. We have gone from 20-25 games a week/fortnight to nearly 50. On top of this we have the DS9 league and the extra Champions League which last year were included in the main league of just 583 games.There are also now more less well known teams which is probably off putting for people as they don't like just guessing.
I started this season with 3 leagues x 50+ games each per month which seemed excessive.
That's now down to 2 x 50 max. Predicting in parts means players can choose to predict approx. 25 per week (which only takes 2 minutes unless you're a freak )
Remember too that this season has been running for 4 months now, and last season was only 5 (we didn't start till December, and then only with 10 matches per league) so the numbers aren't so different.

Champions League is just about done for now - after the final 16 first round games, it disappears till late Feb I think (but an FA Cup competition probably starts in Jan!)

As for less well known teams, (apart from the experimental Eredivisie games), I think almost every match now is worthy of inclusion. (ok I use a few dodgy championship games to get the numbers up, but iirc the result of the vote on what should be included asked for all championship games!).

Why do less people enter? A while ago I did actually PM all those who stopped playing...

1. they're too busy / restricted 'net access
2. they leave it too late / forget
3. they're bored of this format
4. they're doing badly recently
5. season tables may seem to have replaced the individual ones as "what matters most".
6. potential new players think they have to have played previous leagues to join in.
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There was a singular failure to deliver on this promise. In fact, I would go so far as to say that there was some element of fraud and gangsterism at work.


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LEAGUE #12 - PART 1

30LC Fulham 1-3 Chelsea
30LC Watford 0-1 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 0-1 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 0-2 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 0-2 Rangers

03ED RKC 0-2 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0-2 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1-1 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 2-1 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 1-2 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 2-0 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 3-1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 0-1 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 4-0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 1-1 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 1-1 West Brom

04CH Derby 1-0 Coventry
04CH Leeds 0-1 Leicester
04CH Millwall 1-1 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 2-2 West Ham
04CH Wolves 2-1 Reading
04SP Celtic 1-0 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 2-0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 1-0 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 0-2 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 2-0 Man City [J]
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LEAGUE #12 - PART 1

30LC Fulham 1-3 Chelsea
30LC Watford 1-2 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 0-1 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 2-3 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 1-2 Rangers

03ED RKC 1-3 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap 0-3 PSV
04ED FC Twente 1-0 FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal 2-1 Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa 0-2 Liverpool
04PR Blackburn 2-2 Tottenham
04PR Chelsea 1-1 Newcastle
04PR Everton 2-0 Bolton
04PR Man Utd 1-0 Southampton
04PR Norwich 2-1 Fulham
04PR Portsmouth 1-1 West Brom

04CH Derby 1-2 Coventry
04CH Leeds 1-0 Leicester
04CH Millwall 2-0 Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland 1-3 West Ham
04CH Wolves 1-1 Reading
04SP Celtic 2-0 Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord 2-0 NEC
05PR Crystal Palace 1-3 Charlton
05SP Inverness CT 1-2 Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough 1-2 Man City [J]
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30LC Fulham 1 - 1 Chelsea
30LC Watford 2 - 1 Portsmouth
01LC Man Utd 1 - 1 Arsenal [J]
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LEAGUE #12 - "THE WHOLE THING"

01LC Man Utd 2-0 Arsenal [J]
01LC Tottenham 1-2 Liverpool
02UE AZ Alkmaar 1-1 Rangers

03ED RKC 1-3 Ajax
04ED De Graafschap - PSV
04ED FC Twente - FC Den Bosch
04PR Arsenal - Birmingham
04PR Aston Villa - Liverpool
04PR Blackburn - Tottenham
04PR Chelsea - Newcastle
04PR Everton - Bolton
04PR Man Utd - Southampton
04PR Norwich - Fulham
04PR Portsmouth - West Brom

04CH Derby - Coventry
04CH Leeds - Leicester
04CH Millwall - Sheffield Utd
04CH Sunderland - West Ham
04CH Wolves - Reading
04SP Celtic - Hibernian

05ED Feyenoord - NEC
05PR Crystal Palace - Charlton
05SP Inverness CT - Rangers
06PR Middlesbrough - Man City [J]

10CH West Ham - Leeds
11PR Crystal Palace - Blackburn
11PR Everton - Liverpool
11PR Man City - Tottenham
11PR Newcastle - Portsmouth
11PR Norwich - Bolton
11PR Southampton - Middlesbrough
11PR West Brom - Charlton

11CH Derby - Nottm Forest
11CH QPR - Ipswich
11CH Cardiff - Sunderland
11CH Watford - Wolves
11CH Leicester - Reading
11ED AZ - FC Twente
11SP Rangers - Dundee

12ED Ajax - Vitesse
12ED Feyenoord - PSV
12PR Arsenal - Chelsea [J]
12PR Aston Villa - Birmingham
12SP Dunfermline - Celtic
13PR Fulham - Man Utd
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waiting for the games to end...

Non.Human was on for a big lead till Lampard scored in the 88th and cost him 4 points... (exact + longshot)

If it stays at 1-2, midge5 and roadrunner get exact instead.
6 people predicted Watford to beat Pompey so no longshots there.
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

Fulham 1 - 2 Chelsea
Watford 3 - 0 Portsmouth

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roadrunner	1	0	3
Blastoderm	0	2	2
Ste		0	2	2
SYMM		0	2	2
pig		0	2	2
Koen		0	1	1
Stew		0	1	1
Apothos		0	1	1
1-X		0	1	1
Zharkov		0	1	1
Kurashima	0	1	1
JC		0	1	1
Inferno		0	1	1
Non.Human	0	1	1
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

I always disliked Frank Lampard, and he's not exactly improving my opinion of him. I went from top to joint second bottom because of that!
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

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I always disliked Frank Lampard, and he's not exactly improving my opinion of him. I went from top to joint second bottom because of that!
I had the league table ready to post... you were on 5, a few were on 1, most had 0.
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

Man U 1 - 0 Arsenal
Tottenham 1 - 1 Liverpool (AET)


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Koen		1	4	7
1-X		2	1	7
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roadrunner	1	2	5
Ste		0	4	4
SYMM		0	4	4
Stew		0	3	3
Kurashima	0	3	3
Blastoderm	0	2	2
JonnyBGood -2	0	2	2
Apothos		0	1	1
Zharkov		0	1	1
JC		0	1	1
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

How can Koen have 1X and 4G, given there has only been 4 matches?
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

he got a longshot bonus (+1G) for being the only person to put Tottenham-Liverpool draw.

6 of my 7 points come from [J] Man U 1-0 Arsenal (just me and Pig were exact)
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Oh, my bad - i never realised you actually marked those down on the table, just thought you added the points. :)
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Re: [football] PL#12 - now featuring hot Dutch outdoor 22-man action!

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he got a longshot bonus (+1G) for being the only person to put Tottenham-Liverpool draw.

6 of my 7 points come from [J] Man U 1-0 Arsenal (just me and Pig were exact)
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