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12 Aug 2012, 05:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4
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Upgraded or not
I'd love to see the in-game Alliance Member page with the addition of "Upgraded Y/N" so alliance HCs can see who hasn't upgraded yet and get their members up and running faster. By making it "U" on top along with the usual score, size, contrib score, etc and have Y or N down the column it will make life a little easier at the start of the rounds.
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12 Aug 2012, 06:10
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 957
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Re: Upgraded or not
You can already see this, denoted by (F) or (P), (free or paid, respectively) - though you can't sort (it wouldn't be too useful, imo)
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Originally Posted by Alliance Member Page
Codename Race Coords Score Con Score Value Size Status Last Active
1 Patrikc (P) Zik 2:8:4 204,920 204,920 204,920 0 High Commander Sun, 12 Aug 05:09:52
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12 Aug 2012, 11:19
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ToF
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: England
Posts: 607
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Re: Upgraded or not
nice one taraka :P
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13 Aug 2012, 00:57
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 707
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Re: Upgraded or not
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Originally Posted by Patrikc
You can already see this, denoted by (F) or (P), (free or paid, respectively) - though you can't sort (it wouldn't be too useful, imo)
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Could be he meant see who has used their upgrade, and who hasn't.
Atleast thats the understanding i've got out of it. And that would be useful.
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13 Aug 2012, 10:22
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Ark-miner wannabe
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,005
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Re: Upgraded or not
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Originally Posted by TheoDD
Could be he meant see who has used their upgrade, and who hasn't.
Atleast thats the understanding i've got out of it. And that would be useful.
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Why on earth would that be useful?
Does anybody upgrade pre tick 5-600 anyway?
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13 Aug 2012, 11:11
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The Video Guy
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,279
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Re: Upgraded or not
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Originally Posted by dabult
Does anybody upgrade pre tick 5-600 anyway?
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Omg you're such a pro!!!!
Yes, oftentimes the upgrade bonus is used as part of an early-round build. People rushing for CR/BS, for instance, might use it early on. There are many perfectly valid strategies that require the use of an UG bonus early on.
Also, when leading an alliance, knowing how many people haven't used their upgrade bonus can be an indicator as to how many people are still sitting on a potential value/score boost. This would give you a better idea of where your alliance stood relative to actual rankings.
If you're going to try and sound superior, at least have the substance to back it up eh?
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13 Aug 2012, 13:16
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mz.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,587
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Re: Upgraded or not
I read it as a genuine question.
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13 Aug 2012, 13:40
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The Video Guy
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,279
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Re: Upgraded or not
I didn't.
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13 Aug 2012, 14:35
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ToF
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: England
Posts: 607
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Re: Upgraded or not
people, also, sometimes use upgrade bonus early on to cover some incoming or because they landed unexpectedly well and want to mine those roids.
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13 Aug 2012, 16:16
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Ark-miner wannabe
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,005
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Re: Upgraded or not
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Originally Posted by t3k
I didn't.
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You read it wrong, it was a genuine question, thanks for answering anyway.
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13 Aug 2012, 16:17
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Ex-Head Multihunter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: At home
Posts: 900
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Re: Upgraded or not
I don't have the calculations anymore, but me and someone else from CT once spent hours calculating what would be the best tick to use the upgrade bonus. We quickly decided that strategy is by far the most important reason to use your bonus.
Using it to maximize the payout instead of maximizing your strategy (although you could see payout as a strategy :P) is much less important.
We also came to the conclusion that if you leave out all strategies and such, then spending your bonus late (i classify late roughly as tick 500+) is not worth it. I would have to recalculate everything to find a good tick estimate.
If people are interested, I might find the time somewhere to redo it all. The bottom line was that spending your bonus on core extraction research (in case of choosing research) earlier insetad of later was more advantageous as the amount of resources you gained extra was bigger then the growth of your bonus. There was some break-even point.
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13 Aug 2012, 18:02
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Old Skool
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Re: Upgraded or not
tbh that is all relative to chosen Gorv, race and pop assignment. I could bring up 3 different scenarios where the output of saving/spending your bonus would end up way different.
79% bonus on income does a lot
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16 Aug 2012, 01:38
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The Video Guy
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,279
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Re: Upgraded or not
It doesn't take all that long for the roid bonus to offer more than taking the resources. The trouble is that the resources offer guaranteed value, whereas the roids potentially just make you a better target.
Killeah is right though. Once you take mining bonuses into consideration then the roids do become potentially more lucrative than the guarantee of the resources even earlier.
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26 Sep 2012, 18:56
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PA Team
Join Date: Oct 2003
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Re: Upgraded or not
Was there any conclusion to this thread that I missed?
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