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Unread 13 Nov 2006, 13:01   #351
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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Bollocks. The biggest problem with some of the multihunters is that they have absolutely no idea how the game works from the perspective of an active player (someone who has been t100 at least once). They might occasionally be incompetent, but it's hard to argue that they're biased.

Fine, lets say there was a multihunter which had been member of a certain alliance. At no point he forgets to mention that he still has friends in that alliance and you get that impression pretty fast when you read his statements on AD.
Although not playing activly anymore after joining the Multihunter-Team, said alliance of course grants his former member access to their Arbiter and - fair as they are - report any suspicious actions from hostile alliances such as farming, escorting, etc. to their former member which is now a multihunter.

Based on the facts and on the intel given in that Arbiter said Multihunter now closes planets for farming, getting farmed, etc.

How does that sound to you? biased or incompetent ?

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Unread 13 Nov 2006, 13:12   #352
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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Fine, lets say there was a multihunter which had been member of a certain alliance. At no point he forgets to mention that he still has friends in that alliance and you get that impression pretty fast when you read his statements on AD.
Although not playing activly anymore after joining the Multihunter-Team, said alliance of course grants his former member access to their Arbiter and - fair as they are - report any suspicious actions from hostile alliances such as farming, escorting, etc. to their former member which is now a multihunter.

Based on the facts and on the intel given in that Arbiter said Multihunter now closes planets for farming, getting farmed, etc.

How does that sound to you? biased or incompetent ?

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Unread 13 Nov 2006, 13:14   #353
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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To know that you should try it first. And the state "alliance XXX is easy to take down" sounds in fact funny if you keep in mind that noone was able to do it without allying half the universe :xmasgrin:
Can you imagine that the alliance so easy to take down also required two friends to take down an alliance ranked below then? I bet ND felt it real good back then. Pot calling kettle black, eh? (thank god I found the disable smileys button).

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Although not playing activly anymore after joining the Multihunter-Team, said alliance of course grants his former member access to their Arbiter and - fair as they are - report any suspicious actions from hostile alliances such as farming, escorting, etc. to their former member which is now a multihunter.
It's hard to explicitly forbid him from accessing the LCH arbiter, as the said person not only hosts it (I'm under the impression), but also has coded, designed, and developed it, and practically runs it.
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Unread 13 Nov 2006, 13:23   #355
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I got a good guess.

Ofc you do but i want him to say it so i can reply to it
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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Fine, lets say there was a multihunter which had been member of a certain alliance. At no point he forgets to mention that he still has friends in that alliance and you get that impression pretty fast when you read his statements on AD.
Although not playing activly anymore after joining the Multihunter-Team, said alliance of course grants his former member access to their Arbiter and - fair as they are - report any suspicious actions from hostile alliances such as farming, escorting, etc. to their former member which is now a multihunter.

Based on the facts and on the intel given in that Arbiter said Multihunter now closes planets for farming, getting farmed, etc.

How does that sound to you? biased or incompetent ?

it sounds retarded.
Why on earth would said multihunter need access to their arbiter - they have access to a far more accurate set of intelligence in the form of the multihunter tools. 100% accuracy, without the guesswork involved in alliance arbiters.
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Unread 13 Nov 2006, 15:25   #357
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

Stoom i was under the impression angels had started a full-scale war on exi. I'm not playing the round actively anymore so if I was wrong there i'm sorry and I'll take it back. I still don't see how allying you will make ND,Omen,Lch superior to angels, who at least targeted you a bit. Of course this all depends upon you winning the round. Otherwise again i gotta say good politics by nd, bad ones by angels.
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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Fine, lets say there was a multihunter which had been member of a certain alliance. At no point he forgets to mention that he still has friends in that alliance and you get that impression pretty fast when you read his statements on AD.
Although not playing activly anymore after joining the Multihunter-Team, said alliance of course grants his former member access to their Arbiter and - fair as they are - report any suspicious actions from hostile alliances such as farming, escorting, etc. to their former member which is now a multihunter.

Based on the facts and on the intel given in that Arbiter said Multihunter now closes planets for farming, getting farmed, etc.

How does that sound to you? biased or incompetent ?

Section, the wing of RB closed and deleted for cheating in R3, did so after private details of arbitors etc caught them.

Section should 100% of been closed.

Does this mean that because it was reported and the hunter given access to arbies, that the hunter was biased or incompetent?

If you are caught cheating, then you are caught cheating, and hunters SHOULD use any and all legal means to do so.
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Unread 13 Nov 2006, 17:03   #359
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

However if you are friends with a multihunter or / and if that multihunter is biased like the multihunters posting in this thread obviously are, they lack an objective basis to base their decisions on.

I hope I dont have to explain to you why this is bad.
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Unread 13 Nov 2006, 17:19   #360
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

Can we please cut the crap about the MH's
Some of you clearly have no idea what your talking about

If you arn't cheating you shouldn't be worried about them in the first place
Some alliances actually don't tolerate cheaters
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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Stoom i was under the impression angels had started a full-scale war on exi. I'm not playing the round actively anymore so if I was wrong there i'm sorry and I'll take it back. I still don't see how allying you will make ND,Omen,Lch superior to angels, who at least targeted you a bit. Of course this all depends upon you winning the round. Otherwise again i gotta say good politics by nd, bad ones by angels.
I find this Topic quite amusing...

Every action ask for a reaction..if Angels block, we block and viceversa etc bla bla..no need for long discussions and bs stories.

We have like 3 full weeks till the fat lady sings..3 full weeks!! Everything can happen in those 3 weeks. I remember a round not so long ago, we had an advantage of ca.20-15 million lead...it took only a week to rape us and left us with only a cookie, but it was our own fault and we learnend from it.

If you did a bad political job this round so far thats scheisse for you..get over it and fight back or learn from it...but c'mon bitching on AD might be a good therapical thing, but its not helping you at the moment...
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Unread 13 Nov 2006, 20:14   #362
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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Can we please cut the crap about the MH's
Some of you clearly have no idea what your talking about

If you arn't cheating you shouldn't be worried about them in the first place
Some alliances actually don't tolerate cheaters

I think once you got closed for something you never did you will think different

But like I said I actually didnt want to get into detail here, just take the piss ^^
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However if you are friends with a multihunter or / and if that multihunter is biased like the multihunters posting in this thread obviously are, they lack an objective basis to base their decisions on.

I hope I dont have to explain to you why this is bad.
There is no such thing as an objective person. Whether they post on the forums or not, every single multihunter must have opinions, every single multihunter sees things from thier perspective which is influenced by who they know, what theyve done etc. This would be the case no matter who the multihunters were and there is nothing bad about it as long as the multihunters follow procedures and only close planets where there is evidence of cheating.
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

holy shit... logic...on AD :/
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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There is no such thing as an objective person. Whether they post on the forums or not, every single multihunter must have opinions, every single multihunter sees things from thier perspective which is influenced by who they know, what theyve done etc. This would be the case no matter who the multihunters were and there is nothing bad about it as long as the multihunters follow procedures and only close planets where there is evidence of cheating.
The point is that multihunters, moderators whatever, if they are good at their job have a sense of duty and responsibility to their position.

They therefore know that they shouldn't be swayed by their opinions and if they feel they are, they should know that it's better they should pass on the situation to someone else.

Now even though it irritates me, I expect criticism and accusations of bias. It was my choice to join an alliance and so it's my lookout. I'm happy to justify my decisions to anyone, but as long as JBG is happy, I know i've made the best decision.
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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Don't you have planets to close or something?
Thats sounds like a 'ffs he is right, i dont know what to answer, so ill just flame him some'

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There are at least 2 lines where he mocks angels.
That few, bah i should have made a better post

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mmmmmh, now I know what this thread lacked: biased multihunters! Phil and Remy, dont you love em ?
How exactly does my reaction make me biased? Explain where exactly pls (after reading this post fully of course)

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Personally I've nothing against admins posting on AD. I only find it tad funny for them not even trying to bother hiding their biased nature.
All Planetarion representatives are biased in the way that they probably all like their old or most enjoyed alliance to win. They all probably want their friends to end in the top 10. Denying that is an outright lie.

If you all meant THIS with the term 'biased', then you are right. But i think (my opinion) that some of the reactions here mean something else then biased: trying to advantage or disadvantage certain alliances/battle groups/persons/planets using the power they are granted.

This form of being biased, which might be better called: power abuse, is a bad thing. It's a nono. Period.

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I was pointed towards this thread. I had already forgotten again that i posted here.

The accusations of being biased and stuff by Rain and LEFF are downright humouristic, but enough other people have already stated the obvious: im entitled to my own opinion, and it is NOTHING more then that, my own opinion. I did not express myself as MH or as PA support team member.

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if this had been an Exi statement, or an xVx statement, or a <insert alliance name here> statement, id have reacted the same. I find threads about alliances whining about other alliances blocking useless, stupid, senseless, usally full of lies and half truths, etc.

The only positive about these kind of threads, is that the alliance posting them usually makes itself look stupid and that the replies are often humourous to read. Its a good read
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i think angels would really really struggle to make themselves look *more* stupid, but its an outcome i wouldnt discount their hc on trying to achieve.
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If I were you I'd stop posting really. NAPing eXi was really your best move this round...FOR THEM!!! You just gave away r19 ally rank1 to them. And I really believed Omen can make it this round. Whos gonna beat eXi now? Angels? Good luck hoping they'll keep on fighting your war. I wonder what Omen members think about this smart action of yours. But they're probably to noobs to realise whats happening, to scared to say anything or brainwashed already. Not even close the member quality omen had few rounds ago. Oh well, good luck fighting for whats left of this round. (Note to eXi HC: don't forget to thank omen in your ceremony speech)
To all those pro Exi posters: Stop bullshitting ppl with lines like "eXi is to far away, out of top5, cant catch up, not playing ftw" etc, this ain't kindergarden's forums, you know. You're only 20 mill score to #1 and getting closer. You just need 20-30 planets to join your tag to win the round. If you're smart you'll only do it in the last week ofc. In fact, removing scanners and cov opers from ecuation, your average score is way over those other alliances in game. You won't even need to add top planets to tag, decent ones will do. Ppl are good at math around here, you'll figure it out sooner or later. You really think for a second that anyone healthy minded still thinks that you won't go for the win. That when round ends you'll still have 40-45 members in tag only?
Tip on how to beat eXi: They must be hit from begining of the round till end. Keep presure on them from the start. That's how they beat 1up every round. Oh wait, 2/3 of round passed and no one really seemed to be able to even slow them down. They at the same score difference to #1 spot as they were 2 weeks ago. They did catch up in roids though and their average score looks better than ever. Well done so far, eXi boys.
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

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i think angels would really really struggle to make themselves look *more* stupid, but its an outcome i wouldnt discount their hc on trying to achieve.
My point exactly ^^

So lets see. So fat in this thread we have saw Angels members claim they are the only ones with balls becuase there hitting exi. And as i stated ealier in this thread, shame they didnt have the balls when they were hitting omen/ND individualy with there 4 alliance block on 1. (yeh big balls Angels) So, as i said they forced ND and Omen to find each other. Then when they retalled togther, Angels cry and moan. Its Pathetic. You made this war, live with it.

Now we have them moaning about the MH's/admins are against them. For god sake guys just shut up? Your making yourselves look so much like a group of old women sitting around a table with tea complaining about the world 'in my day youngens showed respect.. although i suppose i did hit them with my stick first'

In conclusion: You ****ed up your pollitics. You used a 4 alliance block to try and take down omen and ND individually. It failed due to the fact them allieing togther is stronger then your 4 alliance block. So get over it. And as far as this biased view on MH's go... again. Get a clue please.
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

eXi in top 5 - Lets see how many they recruit the next week.

But ok - they got a little strained last night maybe they need some more fleet :P
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eXi in top 5 - Lets see how many they recruit the next week.

But ok - they got a little strained last night maybe they need some more fleet :P
Hmmm, did we?
What I'm wondering about is how Omen will react the coming days on some of their highprofile players leaving.
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omen is not all about keizari. omen will go on without him.
theres other ppl commited to the 'cause' besides him.
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omen is not all about keizari. omen will go on without him.
theres other ppl commited to the 'cause' besides him.
someone care to fill us all in on whats going on? :O
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wow what a read

sounds abit like eXi have been poaching omen members
but then i'm often wrong about such things
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sounds abit like eXi have been poaching omen members
but then i'm often wrong about such things
As far as I know, only one member of Omen so far this round left Omen with the reason given to join eXilition. This person would be Mighteh. So, you're either wrong or exaggerating.
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wow what a read

sounds abit like eXi have been poaching omen members
but then i'm often wrong about such things
First off, hello.

The departure of Keizari will no doubt bring some uncertainty, but not inside Omen - I sense it's the alliances outside Omen that will look at it with interest.
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First off, hello.

The departure of Keizari will no doubt bring some uncertainty, but not inside Omen - I sense it's the alliances outside Omen that will look at it with interest.
heh lo mate

heh so i was right in a way (just 1 member not more)
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What's the 'cause' of you being in vacationmode voodoo?

Mighteh left Omen for eXi? Where's he at now then?
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Heh, what are you doing in vacationmode voodoo?
Maybe IsildurX, Leff, and Titos managed to cut him with a good ould coupon deal on some nice trip to Turkieeyyyyeee or something. I think they were there a while ago.
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What's the 'cause' of you being in vacationmode voodoo?

Mighteh left Omen for eXi? Where's he at now then?

in transition ofc... and cartman is busy or somesuch...

Always <3 Omens tho... :`(
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Always <3 Omens tho... :`(
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Re: Official Angels Announcment

and i resent being called "high-profilee" member...

Ima newb, tbfh.

And there is still plenty of fire left to be shared by Omen, dont second guess that. The people who are still left fighting can put alot of hurt on any one galaxy. Eventho loss of Keizari will bring alot of change into Omen's structure, its not as devastating of a loss to the alliance as it might seem. As i said prior, Omen still has strong devoted core (so far i think i am the only element of the core who actually left) who can handle very hard situations, as prooven many many many times. Those people have NO PROBLEM taking on 3 separate alliances, and as history shows, come out on top.

Keiza. U'll be missed by many. <3
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These upcoming nights gone be a sight for sore eyes……many fleets will fly and another alliance chapter will be written in R19 history books.


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pa is boring nowadays so aparently we need oddball treads like this
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pa is boring nowadays so aparently we need oddball treads like this


Then you should get more into the loop because this round is VERY funny..indeed!

1. Lots of bad politics
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And I could go on and on……


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just like any other round tho... whats new ?
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These upcoming nights gone be a sight for sore eyes……many fleets will fly and another alliance chapter will be written in R19 history books.


Bring it!
So, what you are saying is that someone will attack someone in an attempt to gain roids?

Wow.

Thats new.
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So, what you are saying is that someone will attack someone in an attempt to gain roids?

Wow.

Thats new.

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Parracida Round 9.5 for a start but he was still playing when he was a multihunter.

But im sure that wasnt what rain was talking about



Anyway maybe when w'ere all retired and sitting round box watching antiques roadshow alone, drinking straight up whisky from a cup, shivering cos we cant afford our winter heating, we will all look back on this thread and laugh and think-

god did i really waste all that time playing online games that caused us to argue incessantly with strangers on an 8 page thread at 3am?
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