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16 Jan 2008, 03:21
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I dunno...
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Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Go on, catalogue your fine and varied selection of classic works by Blyton, Rand, Pratchett et al.
My ragged collection is here. Can you recommend any books I ought to read? Otherwise feel free to suggest gaps in my knowledge and poke further holes in my self-esteem.
But seriously, I'm intruiged: which books do you lot bother buying?
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16 Jan 2008, 04:41
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Miles Teg
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
You just made me start building my own audiobook library
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16 Jan 2008, 13:18
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Is this literally your library or can you also include books you've taken out of the library?
If I'm going to partake in intellectual penis waving, I'd like some clarification please.
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16 Jan 2008, 15:25
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I dunno...
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
No, it's supposed to be a catalogue of the books you own. Obviously I've no idea whether people make it up, but I haven't.
It's more interesting than I let on, perhaps; there's a function called 'zeitgeist' which allows you to view top authors/books (and there are well over 22 million books on there), along with top rated books, most reviewed books etc, libraries with the most books (there are people with over 15,000). It also allows users to 'tag' (in exactly the same way many bloggers tag their posts) their books which ought to be enough to satisfy the most obsessive hoarder. It automatically compares your library with other users' and shows you which users you share the most books with, which is very interesting.
It took me ages to find the right front cover for all my books ( sad), but that's another interesting function. There's a forum that I've not explored, a reviewing function and book groups. It's also possible to put a librarything widget on your blog that shows a random selection of the books in your library. It's a good and even semi-useful way to waste time.
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16 Jan 2008, 15:33
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mz.
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Sounds a bit like the last.fm of books
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16 Jan 2008, 15:37
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I dunno...
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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Originally Posted by horn
my catalogue would be too small to justify a list but here are three books you should read:
-http://www.amazon.co.uk/No-Logo-Naomi-Klein/dp/0006530400/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200451280&sr=1-1
-http://www.amazon.co.uk/Descartes-Baby-Child-Development-Explains/dp/0099437945/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200451374&sr=1-1
-http://www.amazon.co.uk/God-Delusion-Richard-Dawkins/dp/055277331X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1200451420&sr=1-1
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Read the God Delusion. Thought it was a pile of shite.
The child psychology one does look very interesting, though - thanks.
If you're interested in child psychology, the development of literacy, memory - that kind of thing - try The Child that Books Built. It's not an academic treatise by any stretch of the imagination, but a really involved and insightful memoir.
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16 Jan 2008, 15:40
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I dunno...
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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Sounds a bit like the last.fm of books
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Yeah, it is. It's a shame you can't read the books uploaded but I suppose that would defeat its purpose.
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16 Jan 2008, 15:51
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mz.
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Just a matter of time.
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The outraged poets threw sticks and rocks over the side of the bridge. They were all missing Mary and he felt a contented smug feeling wash over him. He would have given them a coy little wave if the roof hadn't collapsed just then. Mary then found himself in the middle of an understandably shocked family's kitchen table. So he gave them the coy little wave and realized it probably would have been more effective if he hadn't been lying on their turkey.
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16 Jan 2008, 16:26
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
So you have to pay $10 to get to list the books you own?! BARGIN!
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16 Jan 2008, 17:35
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
You'd obviously fake the books you own
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16 Jan 2008, 17:50
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Gone
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
I'll do this tommorow.
As a basic overview, I'd say my book collection basically consists of ancient/social history, politics, some philosophy and a smattering of pornographic gay novels.
As I believe I've said before, I don't really 'do' fiction very much, and when I do, I'm usually holding the book upright with one hand in bed.
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16 Jan 2008, 17:52
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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Read the God Delusion. Thought it was a pile of shite.
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I'm almost ashamed to read that thing. The argument that religion does not involve blind faith because god exists so there is frankly embarassing, as is "On the horrors that science and technology have wreaked on humanity, he is predictably silent." The irony of criticising Dawkins for probably not having read works of christian philosophy whilst simultaneously presenting a blinkered at best interpretation of the scientific method should also not be lost.
There are several tacks you can take to criticise The God Delusion, it's probably too much to hope for to have people use the intellectual honest ones.
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16 Jan 2008, 17:56
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I dunno...
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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Originally Posted by You Are Gay
So you have to pay $10 to get to list the books you own?! BARGIN!
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No?
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16 Jan 2008, 18:09
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Gone
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Wait a minute, you have to pay for this thing?
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16 Jan 2008, 18:18
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
It's free to list up to 200 books, if you want to list more either start a new account, or it is $10 for a years membership or $25 for a lifetime membership, then you can list as many as you want.
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16 Jan 2008, 18:37
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I dunno...
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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I'm almost ashamed to read that thing. The argument that religion does not involve blind faith because god exists so there is frankly embarassing, as is "On the horrors that science and technology have wreaked on humanity, he is predictably silent." The irony of criticising Dawkins for probably not having read works of christian philosophy whilst simultaneously presenting a blinkered at best interpretation of the scientific method should also not be lost.
There are several tacks you can take to criticise The God Delusion, it's probably too much to hope for to have people use the intellectual honest ones.
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What? well I was ashamed to read TGD so there
I don't care whether you're ashamed, mildy disgusted, or merely peeved; the fact that you feel the need to inform me of your distaste for an argument that wasn't even presented in the first place is frankly baffling.
I don't think Eagleton is religious, and his argument that theology belongs in a similarly sophisticated realm to philosophy holds water. The fact that as a subject it is based upon posited fact does not automatically relegate it to the level of imbecility or intellectual chicanery.
Eagleton is right to decry the poverty of scrutiny and empathy in TGD, particularly with regard to the limited assiduity which Dawkins applies to his observations of the religious:
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Now it may well be that all this is no more plausible than the tooth fairy. Most reasoning people these days will see excellent grounds to reject it. But critics of the richest, most enduring form of popular culture in human history have a moral obligation to confront that case at its most persuasive, rather than grabbing themselves a victory on the cheap by savaging it as so much garbage and gobbledygook. The mainstream theology I have just outlined may well not be true; but anyone who holds it is in my view to be respected, whereas Dawkins considers that no religious belief, anytime or anywhere, is worthy of any respect whatsoever.
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It's absurd to write a book masquerading as a critique of a belief, or systems of belief, if you do not feel able to empathise with or understand the believers themselves. TGD is quite simply not the exposition of self-evident, scientific or empirical truths - it is an examination of a culturally ingrained psychology that deserves fuller examination than Dawkins is prepared to give.
I respect Dawkins for his determination and tenacity, for his dedication to the 'truth', and for being thick-skinned, willing to put his neck on the line. I loathe Eagleton, usually; TGD is just very limited.
Nevertheless, and on-topic, yours would be one of the libraries I'd be most curious to see.
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16 Jan 2008, 20:19
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I am.
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
a) I have more than 200 books and i'm not paying for your vanity
b) I accept your irrational belief. However do not start up a pointless argument whereby you try to pretend that your irrational belief is rational. It isn't. The fact that your belief is irrational is not a criticism, it is not something to take personally - if you do you will look like a nutter
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16 Jan 2008, 22:01
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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I don't care whether you're ashamed, mildy disgusted, or merely peeved; the fact that you feel the need to inform me of your distaste for an argument that wasn't even presented in the first place is frankly baffling.
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"Dawkins considers that all faith is blind faith, and that Christian and Muslim children are brought up to believe unquestioningly. Not even the dim-witted clerics who knocked me about at grammar school thought that. For mainstream Christianity, reason, argument and honest doubt have always played an integral role in belief. (Where, given that he invites us at one point to question everything, is Dawkins’s own critique of science, objectivity, liberalism, atheism and the like?)"
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It's absurd to write a book masquerading as a critique of a belief, or systems of belief, if you do not feel able to empathise with or understand the believers themselves.
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No, it isn't. In the end, things always come down to the "Even if god exists, why is your religion right and all the other ones wrong?" thing, even if it is a little trite. How much do you know about the gods of some obscure amazonian tribe? What's wrong with the norse gods? Just because something is popular doesn't mean it necessarily deserves more.
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Nevertheless, and on-topic, yours would be one of the libraries I'd be most curious to see.
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Working on it, it will take some time.
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16 Jan 2008, 22:06
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
No way I'm typing like 100 books into some web page but heres a blurry photograph of my bookshelf!
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2700/booksup4.jpg
(the books underneath it are from the library, mainly maths/time-series stuff)
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16 Jan 2008, 23:35
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/jakiri
http://www.librarything.com/catalog/jakiritwo
260 so far, I'm off to bed. Expect jakiris three and four to make an appearance at some point.
Things are being added in no particular order (generally by authors which pop into my head) so the individual lists will be dominated by prolific chaps.
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17 Jan 2008, 00:00
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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Can you recommend any books I ought to read?
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"Flashman" by George MacDonald Frazier for sheer entertainment.
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17 Jan 2008, 00:04
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Nodrog's method is far easier, especially as most of my books are in a suitcase ready for transportation at the moment. Library thing is great though; although it's a pity you can't seem to add reviews or create an RSS feed with the books a group of people have recently read*. Mind you, I'm not sure if I can be bothered to do it, especially as Jakiri's book penis will be gargantuan in comparison and I'll probably desperately search for the books I've read but given to oxfam, books I partly read but gave back to the library, etc to stretch it out as far as possible.
Boogster, once people start making theirs can you edit them into post #1 please.
* do it.......!
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17 Jan 2008, 03:09
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I dunno...
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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Good stuff! Now you've got to tag them. God, I wish I'd taken to buying books earlier/had more money.
Come on Heb, make one! Don't worry, I'm sure your book-penis is substantial enough.
And you, Nodrog. You know all that far-out philosophising shizzle might just trump Jakiri's SF...
I'm so tempted to add all my children's books (go go gadget Jacques) and all my dad's books that I've nicked but foolishly returned over the years. So far I've resisted, but if Jakiri's gets too much bigger I'll have to resort to some low down skullduggery to save face.
**I've edited the title post.**
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17 Jan 2008, 10:48
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The Twilight of the Gods
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Tagging is for gays (because I've got hundreds more books that I haven't put in yet)
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17 Jan 2008, 11:38
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Mine would be rather uninteresting filled with technical & reference manuals.
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17 Jan 2008, 11:40
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mmm.. pills
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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On the plus side it looks like you've got plenty of toilet paper in reserve.
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17 Jan 2008, 13:12
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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dominated by prolific chaps.
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That's my phrase of the month.
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17 Jan 2008, 13:29
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
itt we discover that nod doesn't know how to use a bookshelf properly.
I'll photo mine when i remember
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17 Jan 2008, 15:40
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
I'm still working on mine. I'm up to 34 and now I'm stuck. (I'm not at home at the moment, so I can't check on what I've got or anything.)
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17 Jan 2008, 19:29
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
Okay I'll do it before Sunday (the day) at least. Oh and Djbass: I'm going to include computing books. I'm a little upset I can't include all the essay and journal articles I've read on the web though; with those I'd be able to at least attach some laser turrets to my book penis.
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17 Jan 2008, 21:47
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
I'm here but that's just my fantasy fiction (my other books of note are probably enough to round it off at 200 - I have an embarassingly small amount of books outside that genre)
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18 Jan 2008, 10:26
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Re: Bookish? Inquisitive? Snobbish?
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If you're interested in child psychology, the development of literacy, memory - that kind of thing - try The Child that Books Built. It's not an academic treatise by any stretch of the imagination, but a really involved and insightful memoir.
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