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Unread 2 Jan 2006, 16:50   #26
Dante Hicks
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Re: Alcohol culture...

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Originally Posted by Charjerk
How can an individual. thorugh alcohol or drugs, put himself in an illusionary situation, complete the task and be happy with the consequences.
You are misusing the term "illusion". If you drank 8 cups of coffee in a night to stay awake (in order to write your great manuscript or an essay or whatever) then it is not "an illusion" that you are awake longer. Psychoactives of various descriptions (as horn goes onto mention) can be used in all manner of contexts in a helpful manner.

The rest of your post reads like some pseudo-evangelical Christian tale of salvation. You are saying it is always better to be "sober" (i.e. presumably never taking any psychoactive substance including cigarettes, coffee, etc) than non-sober. But why? You can say this is somehow self-evident, but it isn't to everyone.

You mention challenging things, and I agree. And one of the particularly mindless conventions we should struggle against is the notion we are somehow perfect and that we could not benefit (in certain scenarios or situations) from external help. This will range from drinking an energy drink before having a run to perhaps self-medicating with valium to get through a stressful experience (e.g. flying). There are always dangers, but that is life and we should be courageous enough to confront them in co-operation with like minded members of our community.
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