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Originally Posted by Nodrog
This doesnt really get us anywhere because the whole argument is over what constitutes consent. The false consciousness induced by patriarchal society makes it impossible for any womyn to rationally consent to sex hence all intercourse is rape, and so on.
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I understand what you are getting at, but it's not all that patriarchal of a society anymore (although it is far from equal). If the woman says 'no' or is not concious or in a state in which she is inable to give consent, then it is rape.