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Re: Congratulations Exilition

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Originally Posted by Marka
@qebab
Can't really be arsed to quote all that shit.
You say that, but it makes your post completely unreadable because people repeatedly have to go back and check what qebab said. It's not difficult, just put some effort in


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Originally Posted by Marka
First - your 2-point attack-or-not checklist lacks some points - again a reason why noone likes you.
Said checklist:

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1) Are we napped to them, or otherwise commited to not attacking them? Then don't.
2) Otherwise; attack to get roids, fleetcatch those of their planets that are really hostile; defend against their attacks on us.
How is this unreasonable?

1) eXilition are not attacking those they've said they won't. That seems reasonable to me.
2) eXilition are roiding other planets to get more roids for themselves. Again, reasonable.
3) Where planets are particularly hostile to eXilition, eXilition is taking action to stop them being as much of a problem in the future. This is done by fleetcatching. If you don't want to fall into this category, don't attack eXilition...
4) Defending against incomings - Marka, surely you're not complaining about this?


It strikes me that you're just bitter about eXilition being better than you. Deal with it.



Anyway, ploughing on...

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Originally Posted by Marka
Second - best wasn't my wording
This is what you said originally:

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Yes - you crush the rest of the universe - doesn't mean you're in the best ally. There are so many definitions of best or better said things you could be best in.
The most important one to everyone playing (as opposed to just the people in X alliance) is the alliance score rankings. eXilition are top of those by some margin. Why is it such a surprise to you that eXilition aren't doing things by halves - they never have in the past.

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Originally Posted by Marka
Third - yes - clearing top ranks by any means is a part of the reason you will never be considered best alliance - besides you ain't clearing them really.
The argument would be as followed - someone in a small ally worked really hard and active to achieve a top50 ranking - now eXi bashes him down for the sake of him being bashed down even if he never attacked eXi etc....
When an alliance that is aiming for #1 starts a round, it has a number of objectives. The primary objective is to win the round on the alliance score rankings. Furthermore, they might also have secondary objectives of 'most planets in the top 100' or 'top galaxy'. The former can be achieved by clearing the top 50/100 ranks.

How do you do this? By attacking non-eXilition non-allied top 50/100 planets through your alliance's attacking force. I'll be clear - there is nothing wrong with this whatsoever. Having a top 100 planet is like painting a giant bullseye on your back, it shouldn't be a surprise that people want to take a shot at you.

As for your example of someone in a small ally that's made it to the top 50, I find it extremely unlikely that they've got there without attacking eXilition along the way. If they're that scared of reprisals (or unable to accept that reprisals might happen in a war game) then they probably should apply to eXilition for a planet NAP, and see if they grant one. If not, then perhaps they should go looking for a better alliance....

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Originally Posted by Marka
Fourth - We have been attacked by as many eXi planets as our alliance has planets overall - your definition of targetting by roid-loss is pretty crude.
Crude but reasonable. eXilition's attack on Tides of Fire showed that they had the ability to take over 7500 roids off a 70 member alliance (210 potential defence fleets) in one night. This equated to -20% roid loss for ToF.

If eXilition attacked xVx in the same way, they would be attacking a 27 member alliance with 81 potential defence fleets. They could probably take 5000 roids off you without sweating, and maybe 10000 roids if they put some effort into it. That equates to -27% roid loss and -55% roid loss respectively.

Puts your -11% night to shame really, doesn't it?


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Originally Posted by Marka
Fifth - where exactly is the schoolyard bully analogy wrong.
- being in a position of superior strength to everyone else on the yard - Check
- considering everyone who is not part of your posse easy prey - Check
- stealing lunch money from others even if you don't need it - Check
- show everyone repeatedly who's king of the hill - Check
School isn't a war. Planetarion is.
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