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Re: Lights Observations

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Originally Posted by DunkelGraf View Post
Why is everybody stating that certain features are not good for NEW PLAYERS?
Is it really that complicated?
Light got some valid points but i think having different races is fun to have.
Certain features arnt good for new players and one new feature doesnt usually make things that complicated.. Its what happends afew rounds after that feature is implemented, when the PA Team think of a new addition to that feature making the formula more complicated.. Then afew rounds after that, another addition to it which makes it even more complicated. Until you're left with good features but with the way they've been added its created a huge mess.

The example i used was the formula for working out your Research (or construction points per tick).
Each race has a different base research points? thats fine.
Each goverment has different research bonuses? thats fine.
Population settings affects the research points? thats fine.
You can build research facilitys to gain a research bonus? thats fine.
They are all fine features when you talk about them by themselves but when you add all that together, you end up with a stupidly complicated formula (which btw, is not even in the manual and to work it out you need to visit 3 pages picking out the information from the wall of texts).

100+((100/100)*50)+((100/100)*20)-((100/100)*10)
^^ Is the formula for Research Points Per Tick for a Terran Planet with 50% population in research, 20% of constructions in Research Facilitys and Dictatorship goverment.

or if you want a universal formula its this monstrosity:
X+((X/100)*Y)+((X/100)*Z)+((X/100)*A)
X = Base Research points
Y = Population bonus
Z = Research Facility bonus
A = Goverment Bonus
No wonder the formula isnt in the manual
*Edit* Actually, that formula's wrong as its presuming every Goverment bonus is a positive bonus.
*Edit* No wait, It'd work out the same anyway, as you're multiplying by the minus number, making it subtract anyway when you come to add in that minus number. Too tired

Each round admins make new additions which sound fine but when looking at the bigger picture they end up making things more complicated. Admins very rarely (if ever) try to simplify what they've added.

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A statement of the creators of how they want to have pa developed within the next rounds would be nice.
Its not really a case of what they aim to develop within the next 1-3 rounds, PA needs to have a vision of what it wants to be with every feature thats in the game backing up that vision. It also needs to find a way to simplify its formulas back to a manageable state.

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(50+5*min(security_guards/(total_asteroids+1),10))*(1+(%security_centres*2 + %government alert bonus + %population security workers)/100)
lol GReaper, i never realised the formula for Cov-ops was that complicated... I'm not even going to bother trying to dissect that.
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Last edited by Light; 25 Mar 2009 at 03:06.
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