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Originally Posted by Paisley

Something I did say in a different thread... not all support planets are multis however all multis seems to be support planets.
Shame that the Multis are spoiling the game for the genuine players especially ones that dont even send or receive def outside of ally/gal. aka entirely innocent.

Which is precisely why nothing should be done.

As I said scanner dont hit the launch/recall buttons. The individual does.
Scanners only provide infomation and dont help/hinder the actual battle.
I do notice that there is a scan channel called #Scans however I dont seem to see a channel that offers out of def fleets.

I don't see how different levels of organisation change the nature of the activity, which is fundamentally support. If it is an iota of support, it's support.

As I pointed out in a earlier post a multi support planet will recall to prevent taking cap for the main planet. A genuine player will still want his/her cut of the roids... Thus a self serving motive.

There are legitimate players who want to be escort planets. In fact, this is how top planets win planetarion.

The only problem is that it is hard to determine if a support planet is genuine or a multi.

The cost of getting round this problem is far greater than the benefit it seeks to achieve.

Mz comment was an example of the mentioned apathy. You clearly said there Was no apathy... Any Questions?
I Hope Mz had retracted this realising the error of that comment.

He is simply referring to what should and shouldn't be permitted.

A couple of VNC support planets? I think you underestimate the scale of it.
You are ofc entitled to your opinion on political strategy.

Not really, no. LDK have lost so many rounds it can't have that much serious impact. Even at the peak of their cheating activity in the early rounds, LDK got beaten by quality outfits regardless. And that says a lot given they are a quality outfit themselves.

Personally I would prefer them to play intag and give it a good go.

I'm not opposed to upping or delimiting the tag limit.

Ofc Vsn dont have the calibre to be on a par with asc/app.
They did however played their parts on the App/Asc/P3ng/Vsn block. Much to their own costs. P3ng near enough buckled. Vsn didn't gain much from the war probily would have been better off staying out of it.
They sure didnt get an equal deal out of the block no arguments there.

I'm supposed to feel bad that two alliances got a bad deal in your opinion, what?

VNC is relatively undetectable to the MHs... it is hard to independently determine if this has been the case or not. But I am not going to throw wild accusations. Nor can be arsed to Infiltrate Asc (ironically by VNC) and do a Planetarion style panorama thread if there was.

We have always operated within the rules, and used Munin's SMS functionality. Most of our wins have been down to superior political and military strategy rather than being more active than everybody else. And we're certainly less active than Apprime who seem to have a deathwish regarding their own activity levels. If anything you are far better placed using text messages than VNC because of your improved communication. There is actually very little incentive to cheat.

Would be interesting to have a round where out of tag def was banned via hard coding as a cross comparison.I cant be arsed with that pandora's box. I just want my BS/CR fleets back free from defense from multing support / defense planets without consequence if the def fleet is on a 1 way trip or not. Faking non xan fi/co is somewhat difficult. Thus restricting my game more than the ability to send/receive out of tag defense from my point of view.

I find playing planetarion difficult (I am rubbish at getting high scoring planets as it goes) but I just get on with it.

VNC is a tool to get around getting caught Multing aka avoiding detection from the MHs.
Wether a Multis choice is to use proxis/exclusive PCs with Internet more than VNC is here nor there.

I know what VNC is/does. I know it's hard to detect. It's just not enough of a problem to warrant action.

Ship/salvage farming is more of a motive/means to cheat.... VNC/proxies are a tool of doing the job.

In fairness anyone with an understanding of game mechanics and planet behaviour can spot ship or salvage farming. Many slip through the net not because it's not detectable, but because the way this rule is applied gives the suspected cheater too much benefit of the doubt.

I did not say that your comments affect your ability to Mod ... what I did say that the PA community has a certain expectation(s) on how a Person holding a position of authority should conduct themselves. Heed or ignore this is ofc your choice.

He can say what he wants within the rules.