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Unread 31 Mar 2009, 11:17   #17
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Re: eXilition vs Ascendancy

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Originally Posted by Tietäjä View Post
Yeah. Hierarchical models as such for groups have of lately been rather unsuccessfull (if you'd read the bible that is known as the alliance rules of VGN and then follow up on the IRC drama on it you'd probably giggle too).
indeed, but then again all methods of controlling groups of people and running organisations ultimately comes down to the context of who is in that group etc....personality plays a huge part.

this bible of rules that allies like vgn/denial have/had may be complicated and get mocked by people who play in a different system (asc members generally) but ultimately in a lot of alliances rules ARE essential. an example of this from personal experience is audentes.

last round we had audentes members defending ingal against audentes attackers which created an internal shitstorm which ultimately was the first step of audentes failing horribly. BC's threatened to quit, an HC stepped down, at least 2 members who were defended against quit the ally that day, and over the next week or 2 many quit over the backlash (tobbe and posi - 2 of our main DC's as an example).

ascendancy will have policies in place also, but generally you see them as COMMON SENSE :P the handbook that asc members play by seems quite simple: dont be shit, dont crash, use common sense - this works due to the high quality of the memberbase, vast experience and leadership from these skilled and experienced players to the new blood. it also seems to me that the spirit of teamplay and general asc psyche spreads exceptionally well (though not perfectly)....people that are idiots and dont tick these boxes or have a poor attitude dont seem to last long

regarding the hierarchical structure and those who use it: how do you (and others) feel alliances like New Dawn, Conspiracy Theory and Omen would have performed this round without hierarchy and instead using a more open setup? personally i dont think this would have had a positive effect, at least not in omen. i think asc are certainly a special alliance in recent history however....not for how it is ran but the strength in morale, teamspirit and leadership it brings round after round

sorry for the essay again and semi-tangent from the original post. as everyone says its impossible to compare asc and exi due to the crossover in times etc: the only way we'll ever know is if kenny makes us a youtube video using a scientific simulation like this one

youtube.com/watch?v=o22mGCSfUQY

(spanish commentary optional)
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