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Originally Posted by Tiamat101
Kai Check at my stats. My Biggest Goal From these stats was to Avoid a ship that T1's its own class. As when that happens they tend to be suicide or Chicken Def. Also I have NO same init fire, its intended to be that way.
As for Tending people toward Fr/De by no means is that the case. Fi/co In mass numbers will still beat Fr/de due to Emp and Lolwaves. Also Cr/Bs will still be VERY strong vs Fr/de PLanets because they have no Init Adv over cr/bs. Also Given that Both Cr and Bs has good Emp ships, i would hope that people would see that Cr/bs is playable especially Vs Fr/De.
Now to Address this Issue Kaiba Fr/De planets are naturally unhittable. Just Look at 6:3 this round. They have So much De ingal that they can cover almost every inc with De. Here are some bcalcs to prove my point.
http://beta.planetarion.com/bcalc.pl?id=qxxa8udg4zj2uql
This Decently Value'd Terran Planet, It takes 3 Fi/co Fleets to even consider Causing a Dent to him. The Reason for the smaller value'd Fi/co fleets and the higher % of anti fi/co are to similate Real planets, you Will RARELY find fi/co planets build equal or majority anti fr/de. You see the "Flacking" power of the De. All he would need is either some more Pegs/Vsh or even just some more De Flack to allow his own Pegs to fire. |
Jesus i thought i had just finished this debate with Isul...
Firstly as i said im not a statmaker i just added in some random extra ships so everyone had 10 ships - allowing the second etd fi/co ship - making etd fi/co possible...
Secondly and to finish the debate... i dont think after Isul and I had exchanged posts that we said that ingal fr/de wasnt strong - infact we both agreed that forted fr/de gals are massively strong - BUT - fr/de is for the 'more active/dedicated alliance player' - im just using a random example here so no flaming Misty please but HR would struggle to run a fr/de alliance - even if they forted - they dont have enough super dedicated players/dc's to pl def and completely cover up ingal for any attacks.
FR/DE is better used for top 5 alliances and active BG alliances such as ToF or DLR - that leaves half the playerbase unable to use fr/de well and therefore have a bad round.
You say how the stats arent psuhed towards fr/de but i would counter that the first thing you spot when looking at them is that there is 4 races with 3 fr or de ships (of all the same class) - that will make less wise players think de/fr is the way to go - the same players who are most likely in alliances that will struggle using fr/de.
Maybe you could change a couple of the classes of ship to stop this being an obvious reaction to the shipstats - give the races 2 de and 1 fr ship or vice versa just so that fact isnt so glaringly obvious when you load the page - i also think this might be because you have reduced the amount of ships each race has...