Thread: influence on religion (past and present) on today's non-religious society
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Unread 2 Feb 2007, 14:48   #42
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Re: influence on religion (past and present) on today's non-religious society
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Originally Posted by Boogster
Rubbish. The idea that empiricism is a desirable thing is one of the great prevailing human constructs of our time, much as is the idea that beauty should have no point.
I don't think you understand. Empircism involves actually "exploring" the world. Concepts of say, beauty or morality, involve an introspective self-referential approach and as such don't provide propositions which are refutable. They can have mutually exclusive propositions (due to the requirements of logic) but they can't actually describe the human mind in any meaningful sense other than the broadest "a person can have idea x". Empirically the statement is much more "something in the world is x". These are obvious differences between potentiality and reality.


After all if beauty had a point it wouldn't be beauty, it'd merely be an element of rationality because it would be a good idea to hold to its ideals for reasons outside of itself. If you wish to call beauty this you're certainly free to, but then we're talking about different things.
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