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Originally Posted by Mighteh
well, then youre merely stating the fact that it does, rather then bringing up a point for conversation. Yes, ofcourse, most of our believes are affected by religion more then u can realize. Howeever, its not a bad thing really... U can say we were brainwashed, yet, most of things that religion says (while educating you on how to live your life) i actually agree with. Then again, were mostly refering to christian religion and neglecting others.
Principles of buddism and taoism and confusionism are quite likable and based on reason and logic (even if some admit some stuff that cant (and wount) be proovesn [coming back to entire "if there is a God" discussion]. The beautiful thing about those is that while upholding high moral values it does not persuade others into thinking and doing alike, not were they designed as a control tool (aside from confusianism).
If were gonna talk about the institution of Christian religion (both, Catholic and Orthodox churches) those were nothing but a mere powergroup. With powerhungry people trying to tell others how to live. There should have never been an institution of Faith. Coz, as vudu said <3, its all a personal choice.
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well the discussion would be to discuss those moral values, are they really good? or are we just brought up to see them as good?
like the example I made in the first post, sex before marriage.. or modernly translated into "casual sex is bad mkay?"
your point about other religions opens up a good discussion aswell, the fact that christianity is used to control people, and there's other religions out there that aren't.
the fact that it is, or isn't, a personal choice is to be discussed aswell (cfr. how much importance holds a personal choice when you've been "brainwashed")
so it's not at all a statement and indeed is more a discussion, imo