Havoc is serious ?
 

Rumours just reached me, that a member of one of the "premier" alliances in Planetarion just got kicked from his alliance, because he had some "fun" and attacked a fellow member of the alliance.

I would like to know, if all alliances are imposing strict rules during Havoc, or if we could actually be allowed to have fun during this time of idleness/inactivity and boredom ?

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i actually left NoS in game so members could attack me :)

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Normally ToT had the tradition to attack Marduk full force during havoc. so in saying this you know the answer from us.

Havoc should be fun.

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nice post in context yet again

even a fool know that in order to attack an in game allie you must first remove yourself from that alliance

so dont paste my log out of context to stif trouble u n00b

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there arent any strict rules desse

i.e the eclipse official line is (or rather has always been)

pre arranged havock attacks = oki

but in any case to attack allies you have to remove yourself from that alliance in game anyway

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LO Desse :) like meh little fleet :D

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does this mean you are actively saying that members who remove and attack members will no longer be in he ally though?

seems a bit extreme saying its havoc :/

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always did in every other round when we werent bound by in game shite :P

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Was a nice battle. :up:

Happy new year, mate. :)

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sounds a bit silly to me - we always allowed members even in legion to attack eac other- thats the beauty of havoc you can settle grudges and have a bit of fun before round stats.

You ever thought of taking stress management classes or anger control classes?

I think it wuld help you a lot ;)

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erm ?

why would i want to manage an elysium HC ?

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that was a really BAD Joke :/

Happy new year though

going to get drunk now ;)

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however just like in every other round the idea of havoc is to be able to attack anyone you like, enemies, or people you just wanna have some fun with.. imo doesn't really matter who you attack in havoc, just *this* round you have to remove yourself from the ingame alliance to be able to, which is stupid ofcourse! this whole situation just *again* proves that people take this game waaaay too serious. end of transmission.

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Hr has allways said everyone is fair game in Havoc (within alliance) Allies.. well as long as they havent been so bad during the round, ask first..

Obviously this round you cant attack a member unless you have actively quit the alliance in-game..

Its havoc fer *ecks sake its supposed to be fun, so go guys and gorls go.. attack those HC :-)

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FEEL THE FURY

Only other alliance to have as anal retentive policies.

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kilroy wasnt removed from the alliance and therefore is all moot to discuss (apart from ingame alliance since he did that himself to do b) )
a) he has still irc and forum access and is at this moment idling even in our channels
b) he left ingame alliance to attack arfa in the first place (you cant launch in ally)



happy new year

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I dumped my resources to the fund for a galmate, then i left my allie so i could cov-op my members :naughty:



Who the fk cares...and a happy new years fs :)

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lol

having read the full thread it appears there some tomfoolery afoot so lets give a timeline

1) at about 6:00 am in channels i told ppl i was taking baby into hospital (everyone knows shes a tad ill)
2) at about 6:30 am kilroy attacked (kilroy removed himself from in game alliance to do this) he was accompanied by 2 gal mates and 2 of zmeus multi accounts that survived (it was the big oneof zmeus in that gal got closed btw)
3) at aroud 8:30 an ex gal mate of mine tells me by sms that hes been told to co op my salvage and that i wouldnt be playing as i was unable to log in :P

simple fact is all my fleet was in base slot (hardly in battle mode) and i didnt actually see a battle just the 3 ticks of brs when i got in (i only actually went online cos someone was having server issues so phoned me or i would have just gone to sleep)

kilroy then starts some shite in this thread and in pa channels ect dunno if its to crow i was owned or to rubbish the alliance that helped him in the real game?

to be clear

a) i would have loved a nice havok battle (and had arranged it with some friends) but was deprived of it through sneakiness
b) odd that kilroy got alliance def from me during havok (double standards ?)
c) posting a section of txt that makes out something was said that wasnt is a tad childinsh IMHO

<kilroy> i dont think i will play next round
<kilroy> going up in ranks on my work
<kilroy> this januari
<kilroy> going to be a manager
<kilroy> so no time to play again i think

as far as the havok issue is involved we arent very anal those who treat havok like the real game are accomodated,
eg:-( waffle wanted to "win" havok) < while i dont see havok as been "won" i respect that persons wishes
those that want fun have fun.
eg:-(focht always invited ppl to attack his gal in previous rounds during havok)
Personally i wouldnt have been playing at all except i have alliance comitments
eg:-(defending prats like kilroy when they scream for alliance defence).
But generally alliance vs alliance attacks are done with the consent of both parties

anyway to all everywhere happy new year

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i would stop it if i was you.

1. I was not on the priv server so i couldnt know you did go the hospital.
2. I did this to wish you a happy new year.
3. i only asked 2 gal member with the other stuff i dont know

And i really liked you .
But with this chit chat we just act like litle childeren.

Btw ye you defend me so what. And i told you i only attacked you to wish you a happy new year is that od?
Btw i never did new you where to a hospital and 2nd off all we attacked you arround 10.00 cet.

So some of your lines are not right if you wane blame me for something please show me the real facts not some bullshit story.

And yes maby i stop with the round becuase i get a new job that i told you And also sayed MABy no time to play. Never sayed i would stop 100%.

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FFS its havoc, lets have fun, get drunk and forgett this silly thread. HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!

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/me will kick you out HR and then attack your planet ;P

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I did not start this kilroy you did Im simply finishing it and there are no untruths whatsoever in anything Ive said !

you attacked me . I really dont care about that
you started a thread here to discredit a) me and b) eclipse...i do care about that
you pasted in a lot of channels the same lies...and i care about that
you also pmmed ppl with bulshit to the same effect...

fact you removed yourself from the alliance after i stated i was going to hospital in a channel you were in
fact your tot co-attacker called his mate and said to co op me as i wouldnt be able to run my fleet cos
(rough translation from german) "he cant run because he will be in hospital according to kilroy"

as i side note they guy in question offered to run my fleet for me if i gave him pwd but said "nah its havok anyway and ive more important things to deal with atm " in case ure interested

i.e its not the attack or the way you did it but the bullshit u post after it that pisses me off

<[Eclipse]Arfa> then is posting shite
<[Eclipse]Arfa> hehe
<Focht|dreams> bout ?
<[Eclipse]Arfa> i took baby to hospital last night
<[Eclipse]Arfa> kilroy and mates twatted me
<[Eclipse]Arfa> that im not too pissed about
<[Eclipse]Arfa> but then he cllaims on pa forums i kicked him from in game alliance
<[Eclipse]Arfa> lol
<Focht|dreams> has he still access to channels ?
<[Eclipse]Arfa> yes
<[Eclipse]Arfa> i havent removed him from anything
<Focht|dreams> watch out for such statements
<[Eclipse]Arfa> which such staements m8
<Focht|dreams> well you told him he is kicked
<Focht|dreams> for what reason i dont now
<Focht|dreams> since its havoc
<[Eclipse]Arfa> no
<[Eclipse]Arfa> but
<[Eclipse]Arfa> to attack ecl he
<[Eclipse]Arfa> a) has to remove himself or be removed
<Focht|dreams> i know ;)

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Isn't there a thread along these lines at the end of each and every round?
It's havoc time - and surely it's traditional in havoc to attack people who you otherwise couldn't have whether they are in the same alliance as you or not.

Have a happy new year everyone :-)

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didnt you quit Desse?

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/me pokes mr Pendragon.

If you take a look at the first post in this thread, then move your eyes a little to the left you'll see a "D", closely followed by "esse". Now I know that might look a little bit like "Kilroy", but its really not the same... :p

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True True

3 Hooray's for Kilroy attacking people at the right time without even knowing it! Explains his rank this round :Gimli:

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Yes... But a couple of "friends" lured me back.

Thanks a lot Legator and Prestel for costing me WAY too much sleep for a round again.

Thanks to galmates though for getting me into a winning gal and finishing a respectable position. :-)

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if u also didnt notice

shortly after desse's post was a post by kilroy with a falsified log added some hours after (the rumour desse heared of course being from his galmate)

which ofc he would have to remove after being shown to be a lying fk :P

may i consider myself unpoked ?

[quote]kilroy
Registered User


Join Date: Mar 2003
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This is just like a comic strip.

Just wane wish a Ecl HC happy new year

The Arfa happy newyear fleet has been launched, heading for 16:4:9, on a mission to Attack. Arrival tick:
2471

and for that and in havoc they kicked me out their alliance
felaT0> positive
<kilroy> you wount let me in
<kilroy> :-)
<felaT0> u attacck eclipse u are out
<felaT0> simple
Btw felaTO = Arfa

http://tools.visionhq.org/parser.ph...582e&section=pa

Its never alright to wish some 1 happy new year

Than i get this
<felaT0> lol u sad bastard
<felaT0> have a nice life

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Last edited by kilroy on 31 Dec 2003 at 15:48. [/qiote]

and may i consider now getting extremely drunk (at home since i have the baby to see to :P) of do u wanna roll out the rest of the support crew as well :P

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Board jape right?

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just to reiterate a2 this isnt about havok attacks matey its about lying fks trying to manufacture propaganda out of it :o

doesnt editing hes original post then deleting it tell you something :P

happy new year all anyway

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The nice thing about earlier havocs been that i've been able to attack HR members and galm8s that pissed me off. Now that that fun is gone, there's no much fun in havoc. The only pleasure i get now, is by attacking VGN members, in retal for Silverchair(nice exuse for having some fun)
Only thing i dont like about havoc, is that as soon as you loose 1 ship, you'll get passed by every inactive in score:(

If i have to edit this post 1 more time i'll get really pissed :smith:

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Fury had policies that applied to havoc - mainly it required the consent of members between themselves on what they wanted to do (whether to attack eachother or not.)

Officially, the agreements of alliances still applied into havoc mainly to stop bad blood forming. Thus Fury maintained order through havoc - with possible removals from the alliance for those who didnt want to respect the rules.

Whilst it may seem harsh - the members could always war between themselves (and those people from other alliances) as long as consent was gotten between all those involved.

I believe Eclipse adopted the same policy in earlier rounds - but I'm unsure to whether they do now.

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Happy new year to you too, and infact all of the community :):):) :banana:

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Go for it honey .. but do it now.. so i can get back when i get home ;)

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boring

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Do you got the word "Fury" on some kind of highlight ? :lol:

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my thoughts exactly, he replies everytime somebody mentions teh Fury :)

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yup

thats how it was r9 as well m8 people still ask for aribi checks in case its an eet target

odd that

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No, but whenever I see it mentioned I am compelled to reply. It's all manual work - just like Fury was - nothing artificial there!

I am a true Fury!.

Long live the Fury!

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using the exile bug makes you such a big hypocrite Desse

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u'r so sweet ;) Thank you for giving me the pleasure of killing your ships m8 :D

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Just have to respond to this part..........

1.The attack on you was a joke and to wish you a happy new year.
2. zmeu's planet was deleted and he lost his job and with that his access to the web.
3. The attack was at 10.00 am CEST.
4. I don't understand all the fuzz about this to be honest.

It's havoc for crying out loud :)

fixed a typo

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And you Ace gotta stop retaling on me fs :P

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hehe then YOU should leave my gal m8s alone :)

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Hey Nadar, you dirtycooper :P

Oh btw, Arfa, that wasnt Zmeu attacking, nor any of his supposed multis: it was me, ace, kilroy and a ToT BC :-)

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You can't blame me for this round. You played I didn't..............I just waited around for havoc and launched on you....as you now know ;)

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dam ppl i have a score of 1,5m am i playing serious?

(i tryed to suaside on t10 ppl so my m8 would end t10, then he suadides himself 2, all my work for nothing ;););))

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Only a Fury would bother clarifying that point.

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At which point, Zhil ordered the colonic irrigation procedure to stop and headed towards his internet terminal to rebut the evil Banned and his anti-Fury ways.

This post is bad :(

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I still find it funny with the mail u sent.. hehe ;) I think I made the coolest reply every :cool: