Question about joining the Beta
 

Its not, its just me, but I knew that would get your attention.

Anyway is there some sort of beta I can play while at work?

Re: God its a girl!
 

Title your threads correctly in future.

Try #beta . If you arent still permitted to be there, let me know and i'll n00b someone, when i get back from cards tonight/tomorrow :).

Re: God its a girl!
 

This seems like a good place to do this.

Appocomaster - why am I not in #beta?! Haven't been there since I got banned by spinner.... think its time to get me back

Re: God its a girl!
 

Think you will give up in beta too :D

Re: God its a girl!
 

I probably will do. But I promise I'll give a big list of reasons why I quit - and hence constructively improve planetarion. Thats what beta is about after all :( or is it only about ship stats? dunno, always just treated them as speed rounds in the past.

Re: God its a girl!
 

Think of the Comedy from the thread title. THINK OF THE COMEDY! :salute:

I wasnt too clear here, I can't actually get on irc :crymeariver: however I can be active on the forums which is :up: but I just want to pass the time and test. Plus if people have issues with me attacking etc they can pm me on the forums <3

So ya can someone pm the link to beta so I can destroy some spaceships and shit. Although the link may be blocked, so this thread could be comically useless.

Re: God its a girl!
 

Its to find bugs in the new code and testing stats.
And your last remark is the reason I think your not in closed beta , it's NOT a speedround :D

Re: God its a girl!
 

Its a closed beta atm with username/password on the pages so it's no use to ask for the url atm.

Once your on IRC I think PMing a PA team member might help a lot they can add you to beta if needed.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Closed betas are good

:up: pa team

:down: renaming this thread title

Technicallity though is I cant get on irc...;/

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

I asked appocco he said PM him once you get on irc.
The beta is not running atm so no hurry.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

coolio <3

I'm sure I can manage to hit irc sometime this weekend.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

are they using my stats in beta yet

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

The Beta is invite only.

Asking to join is a good way to not get in.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

seems to have worked for pig!

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

so if i make a thread i get to play beta too?

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Wait, they aren't letting you play?! Thats criminal! you cna't have a beta without Benneh, its like sandwiches without bread :(

Re: God its a girl!
 

tried that , didnt work :(

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

so you guys omly invite guys who thinks the stats is ace and are good at lick ass? hardly the best way to get any creative development of the game :/

Re: God its a girl!
 

You should be banned from everywhere tbfh.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

should someone from each of the top 20 alliances not have a rep in the beta to ensure impartiality

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

There is actually a private alliance channel where two reps from every alliance and the PA Team are together. The people in this channel were invited by Marv.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

which probably explains why i didnt get the invite


Ps im in that channel

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Yeah it's way better just to use those who don't really have any wish to contribute and just get contacted halfarse their betaplaying instead. Seems like a great system if you ask me!

(But then you didn't, so it's okay)

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

the beta was made invite only due to the abuse which occured last round, by which i mean people treating it as a free speedgame and not using it to find the coding bugs etc.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

well if ppl treat it as a free speedo and play "for real" you get a better stress test of the stats. finding bugs? yeah right, in what code?

you guys are boring ppl producing boring stats, no wonder pa dies :/

Re: God its a girl!
 

Its ok, I've self-imposed a ban on myself from every channel (apart from one <3) to try and avoid contact with as many inanely shit people like yourself as possible. Seems to be working now jupp's stopped inviting you in every so often.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

As if Newt's from blackburn \o/

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Don't tell me you're from Blackburn too??!

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

You obviously dont have a clue as to what you are talking about. If you happen to achieve enlightenment and attain something along the lines of 'creative development', may i direct you to the Suggestions Forum. This is where ideas can be outlined, explored, developed into a form worthy of implementation, rather than some ad hoc basis through a beta.

Betas are for two things; making sure stuff that *has* changed this round is coded correctly and thus works first time, every time, and to see how much appoco has buggered stuff up ;) (<3). It has a secondary objective, imo a more distant second, of highlighting major flaws in the Ship Stats - however properly done ship stats wouldnt display any major flaws in a speed-like environment anyway.

I've just kinda addressed this, but alas your additional comment has done nothing in my eyes except highlight you as a moron. Finding bugs in the code is the #1 priority of beta testers. Or at least, should be. That involves clicking every link, pushing every button, inserting every number or symbol into every box. doing everything that actually *can* be done in the game, just to see if anything breaks. Particular attention, obviously, should be placed on the areas that change between rounds. If people who were beta testers actually did this more often, then flaws in the code such as ordering -ve numbers or fractions of a ship would result in breaking the game, would have been detected during the beta stage and NOT through the middle of a round. Obviously, people who are willing to do this sort of testing, rather than "winning" the beta, are desireable - and those who have shown or seem to show this willingness will be accepted into the programme.

Having said that, i personally believe that there is *some* scope for testing the game in the same fashion as it would during a normal round - eg, to "win" - however, this shouldnt be the point, as if everyone tried to win then only the course(s) of action that are most obviously going to achieve victory will be tested; eg researching Roids #1 is going to be tested more than researching PDS as #1. etc.

If you want to whinge about the stats, then build some of your own. Post them on the Strategy forum, and if/when i get the time, i will explore them with an open mind. The more holes your stats have, though, the more likely i am to think you are a moron (if that were possible, given your posts in this thread already).

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

shame that forum is more or less ignored :|




done! the stats being used are infinitely tedious and so on the pateam are idiots and shit people afraid of change etc etc
(note this is not due to them not using my stats but due to not even IMPROVING THE GAME IN ANY WAY with regards to the stats as they are still as linear and ****ing bland as the past 2 years or so)

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

I read it and reply to it regularly and where a change is directly relevant to changes for the coming round I poke Appoco to the thread.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

sorry, a better word would be pointless, due to the lack of coding time

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

jer is hungover and grumpy :salute:

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

but yet, his point remains valid :shockhorror:

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

jerome et all...if you want to berate the team again because they are not using your stats, please use the other threads you have started. This thread is about the beta and its testers, please stick on topic and not ruin a thread (bar 1 or 2 comments) which has stayed relevant and civil

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

#Strategy ; #Support - Sovereign

well with the amount of ppl in support its kinda weird how little you guys do to the ppl asking about help about stuff. so i take it you guys are the pa-team asskissing crew^^ no wonder nothing happens gg

and i find it intresting how fast jerome's stats got ignored and beta continues with shitstats as usual

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

can i ask what your basis is for that comment? Everyday the people in the support team answer questions and queries to the best of their abilities and knowledge. If they dont know an answer or cant assist due to it not actually being a support issue then they refer to someone who can help.

For you to jump to a conclusion like you have robban is, tbh, offensive to all the people who give up their free time to help members of the community enjoy the game.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

I don't see your name on the list of people coming forward and help out.

I don't see your name on the beta list.

You always seem happy to complain about what you are not involved with or not trying to help out in yourself. Intresting that isn't it.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

fine, let us run the game for the next round and you all quit and let's see who is the better pateam!


by us i probably mean someone other than me as all i really want is PEOPLE TO MAKE THIS SHIT GAME MORE INTERESTING! and not just worry about how their little shitty cosy ass internet job is

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

once again i state can we please get back on topic as this is to do with beta...not flaming the pa team...you have made your view perfectly clear jerome and i respect that..but for the final time i ask you to stop turning all threads into anti pa team propeganda.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

propaganda?!?

ok then question: how do you choose who plays betas?

this isn't meant to be flammatory i was just curious, when i was in there i felt more argumentative and honest people needed their presence too instead of seemingly yes-men, thanks to myk for initially getting me in there though!

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Invite to beta is at the behest of the development team. If someone is suggested to them by a member of the pa group or a beta tester then 2nd and 3rd opinions on said nominee are obtained b4 a decision is made.

Please note that this is for this round, and for future rounds the decision process most likely will be different.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Again with this inconsistency.. I'd like for once to see a Pa team with some actual consistency instead of this wobbly attitude.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Actually kargool it is like this because of the abuse of the beta testing last round, and as far as i have been made aware making beta an invite only issue was a recent decision.
By next beta fixed criteria will hopefully be met and a consistent approach to testing will be attained

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

The planetarion hierarchy is going down the same line as the english government is - full of liberal pansies that think what they're doing is the right morale/ethical choice (eg, banning funny, but rude, gal pics). When in fact all they're doing is ruining the country / pa :( We need more Enoch Powells in this world.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Banning funny and rude gal pics? Now forgive me if im wrong, but look back in PA history. Did you see LDK, ViruS, Legion, Fury and all the other great alliances with some of the best graphics i have ever saw have to resort to funny but rude gal pics? Instead they sat down and of course used there skills to create some great banners. Seems this 'new' community cant do that these days.

So personaly i dont see that as a good example. If the community think thats better having rude pics, compared to the old skool days then perhaps these rules are needed. But anyway thats going off topic there a little bit just wanted to make my point.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Those gal pics were awesome, graphically. But then what would you rather watch on tv? the simpsons or a documentary on the louvre?

And besides, you really claiming that "funny, rude" gal pics weren't about pre-r9? of course they were. Just not by the top galaxies/players (there is more to the planetarion playerbase than those simply in the top alliances incase you didn't know). Would spinner and co ever have banned them? no.

Anyhow, I added that as one of very many examples since it was the easiest to mention - and best protrays, in my opinion, the evergrowing shitness in the pa hierarchy.

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

Newt dude - look at your signature and then enter the conversation blaming PA team for trying to control/limit who has access in the beta :rolleyes:

It's always been like this - the beta starts off with very few numbers and as the round approaches more people are allowed in, so that bugs etc can be ironed it.

The problem simply is that PA players are competitive, even in betas. So won't be looking to fix the problems or report them. More often than not, they'll exploit them and then the team will have to find out what happened.

THAT'S why they want to control who has access and who doesn't. Because there are too many morons around who can't win normal rounds, so treat betas as speedrounds :(

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

huh? this thread is about betas? oops. Does anyone really give a damn about those? :s And I only abused the beta that time because Mitre said it'd be the last time he'd ever 'play' - so I thought "oh shit, I'd better better beat him for once". And tbfh, it takes skill to run 3 accounts in 1min ticks :(


You misspelt skill dude

Re: Question about joining the Beta
 

1. well you can just as well have "rtfm or pm appoco" as topic in #support eod

2. like you guys gonna invite me to the beta testing like ever um dont think so as i dont brownnose

3. for a head support guy and pa-team member. you do crappy posts dude, cudos to that :)