Somethingawful vs ebaumsworld?
What is going on exactly?
Ive only heard rumours and speculation :( |
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if you weren't admin you'd be banned for this thread.
frankly even though you are. I personally think that you should be. EDIT: Britain once executed a king. Several Earls, Dukes and Barons have been executed for crimes. The Rule of Law it's called |
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Good thing im the admin then isnt it?
This is internet geek wars. In the same way the BBC covers Iraq i demand GD reports from the frontline of the goon wars. Plus i dont have an SA account so cant even look to see whats happening. :confused: p.s. Stop being shit yahwe. Im interested because i cant find anything about it around on the net atm and i know that most GD users also have an SA account. |
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I know nothing of anything recent, but based on other things I've read about similar incidents I'd bet heavily on it being a bunch of idiotic wankers thinking they are being terribly clever/hilarious while in actuality they stoop to now lows of puerile stupidity.
Their "shenanigans" will be funny to no-one except the moronic cheerleaders that occupy respective forums who have nothing better to do but maturbate (both literally and figuratively) over the idea of such hilarious japes as sending pictures of someone's house to them, or something like that. Ocassionally it might turn into something more serious but that does not but escalate the patheticness and banality of the whole affair. If there was any justice at all they'll all die slow and agonising deaths. But like I say, I have no real idea. |
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Maybe we should get in on the act and offer our collective internet-related experience at not being staggeringly shit?
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the reason i ask is that i cant get on said forums and heard this was the reason. hence the curiosity.
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1) Lowtax complains about eBaum taking images off of SA, adding their own watermark and using them on their site.
2) eBaum ignores emails asking them to remove this stolen content. 3) Lowtax posts a thread in SA forums explaining the situation and telling users to complain to eBaum about it. 4) SA users post threads on eBaum forums asking the stolen content to be removed. 5) eBaum ignores these threads and still does not remove the stolen content. 6) eBaum contacts our ISP claiming we are instructing our users to attack their site. 7) We specifically tell our users NOT to attack their site, even though our content is still not removed. 8) eBaum puts malicious javascript on their site to attack us. 9) Content still not removed. |
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Hahaha intellectual property. Now dante will actively work towards your collective deaths as opposed to just wishing it :(
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SA sucks balls anyway, go eBaum :up:
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ebaum steals shit from everywhere
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I can't even login now. It seems to accept my password then say "actually, no, not today." I looked at that other site and it seemed pretty shoddy.
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i have no idea what ebaum or who low tax is. I don't care.
But jesus ****ing christ can you sense the hatred in dante's post! |
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the ebaum users really do deserve to get shot in the head
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ebaum is shite run by ****s, for ****s. SA has a rougly equal ****:non-**** ratio amongst the users and is run by fairly agreeable if melodramatic types.
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The best bit was when some faggot got his internet corps of faggots on a shit site to rally behind him in his quest for recognition for his shitty images on an even shitter site. Although the fact silversmoke now appears to run SA ran it a close second.
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Why do you need to go to either?
Surely GD fulfils all your needs? |
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i just happen to have an account on sa dude :( |
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The SA gaming forum is the best bunch of gaming posters I've seen ever, but maybe that's because I didn't go to many gaming sites to begin with. Also GBS is a nice timefiller when you've got a slow day at work, GD is,unfortunately, too quite for that. |
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PS Gaming sites makes me think of greasy fifteen year old CS players who can't type properly. |
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The issue is that the images are created by people in their spare time, they get the SA logo and are then posted on SA. Then Eric Baumann comes, takes the images, removes the watermark, posts them on their own site, where people find them, laugh about them and spread them to their friends, resulting in Eric Baumann being a millionaire now due to all the advertising income. The reason SA doesn't like it, is because he's basically been stealing other people's work and became filthy rich with it. Granted, he won't be the only one or the first to get rich by stealing stuff and taking credit for it, but it's still awesomely shit. Especially when he is faced with a lot of complaints on the forums he responds with putting a JavaScript on his site which does several page requests to SomethingAwful, essentially meaning everyone visiting his site generates multiple requests to SomethingAwful, thereby forcing his users to participate in what is essentially a DDoS attack. |
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However instead of moaning, i would just filter "referred" requests from his site and that would make the whole "attack" pretty useless. The SA admins should just take a look at the HTTP headers of those requests. A mean thing to do would be to counter it by a HTTP "temporary redirection" to a big resource on the ebaum site, but that would be nasty wouldnt it ;) |
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That's why I like SA's amongst other reasons. You'll get slapped around and eventually banned for such behaviour. |
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But as I said, this occurred after Lowtax had asked people to go to eBaumsworld and leave a complaint on the forum about stolen material, so the SA forums were down for a short while until the admins figured out that it was EBW basically DDoS'ing them. Which is what the whole "situation" is about. |
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I've tried phising around on eBaums but I can't find this malicious code anywhere - guess it's been taken down.
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Lowtax is a has-been newsboy from early PlanetQuake days (shit Quake player btw I beat his arse many times), now with his own egocentric site. |
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i quite like the somethingawful site...
I don't use the forums or anything but I have a chuckle at the "comedy goldmine" and the "photoshop phriday" every now and again. There's an interesting video on there of Lowtax giving a lecture about somethingawful which i watched yesterday. |
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lowtax can be funny and some of their photoshop is good. given that everything else is utterly shit, you can see why it would get their panties in a dunder to have the photoshop swiped.
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A lot of people who have posted negatively clearly don't read somethingawful. The forums are so much more than GBS and the slightly puerile sense of humour. The photoshops alone far surpass anything this forum has come up even with in the halcyon days of 2000.
The Games, Sports Argument and Film forums have far more informed and mature discussions than you'll find on any similar forum, with a very active user base. Ebaumsworld is, on the contrary, a horrible mess of kids laughing at other people's jokes. I'm highly amused to see people suggesting legal action over such a silly complaint as this though. |
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Lowtax himself didn't create any of the content, it's all done by the forum goons - who aren't particularly pleased about their hard work going unrecognised, even when they put in a request. Noone would particularly care, but Ebaum has literally made millions of dollars from this website, and is held up in the print media in america (when this kind of thing is mentioned at all) as a genius who's the best business man in the world, or somesuch. The reason that noone's been sued yet is twofold. 1. Ebaum's rich (due to his site), the goons are not. 2. It's difficult to prove that you created the image, even with watermarks. Maybe a class action suit will come along, but for the moment there's not really much anyone can do. Quote:
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I'd like ALL copyright law to be completely 100% revoked. So if I've written a novel and you want to take copies of it, scrub off my name and write your own and sell those copies as your own work on the street you should be able to do so legally. That is freedom, in my opinion. Morally of course taking credit for other people's work is disgusting, but that's another matter - insulting someone whose mum has just died is pretty shit too, but I don't think it should be illegal to do so, and you shouldn't be able to respond with violence (of the online or physical variety). If it is a DDOS type attack in response then it confirms my previous comments (although as I said, they were regarding previous incidents). Personally if someone was making money off my work then I'd be pleased that my meme had spread, rather than throwing my toys out of the cot about it, but hey that's just me. p.s. I've never seen a good photoshop "gag", ever. |
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I seem to remember saying you found it distasteful to use the IP of other people to make money, but that could have been T&F or another one of this forum's merry band. |
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Do these people that are upset on SA use the SA forums as a means to distribute or talk about distributing copyrighted media (mp3s etc) either in the music or porn form?
The core of the complaint seems to be 'daddeh he gottaa rich offa meee' well the internet is indeed a bitch that eats its own children. |
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To me it just looks like a childish spat whereby the members of an internet cult get upset that their work hasn't been recognised and that they haven't profited from it* whilst at the same time they and the internet at large is more than willing to deprive hardworking hollywood studios of their hard earned revenue. * I think this is all to do with money, the residents of SA are upset that someone became wealthy. Now i don't support his methods, they may well be risque. BUT neither do i accept the cap in hand puppy dog stare that seems to be eminating from SA. Once something exists on the internet, in a free and un-crypted form it is copied, passed on and multiplied a million times over. That is why we love the internet. If someone finds fools willing to pay for content, well so be it. |
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I'm not overly favourable in my view towards SA, but there reaally are no positions one can take and be on baumann's side here.
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You used to be such a SA fanboy. what happened, your FYAD account never got accepted?
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while it is perhaps fair to say that he is getting rich by being an asshole, on the other hand it's also then true that he is getting rich by being an asshole. i know plenty of people who do it for free, and it's hard to look more favorable on them then on someone who has a real reason.
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sa has a much larger user base, so obviously they pump out much more content; secondly 'that's what they do there.' this being a discussion forum, we pump out discussion*. ps and, despite how some remember it, this forum was pretty crap in 2000. PLD YUO TEH BOMB! *and i would argue that we do a good job of it |
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To combat this hatred we (the gd users) should setup our own site. nick all of his content. put 'GD FORUMS' in the bottom right corner. and then get lots of advertising dudes to pay us money by undercutting ebaum.
then we can laugh at him. |
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dante will stab you in your face though.
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Firstly it's always about money. Second of all it's always about money.
I'm rather amused by your stance on this mark. Seeing as you don't view having copyrighted material on your hard drive as stealing I can only assume the perceived wrong here is the lack of credit given/profit made. Considering due to the way our legal system works, which I'm assuming you're opposed to given your expressed opposition to intellectual property, you cannot sell on copyrighted material without paying royalties to whoever credit is due for the creation of the work in question surely it would make more sense for ebaum not to give credit as then the wrong you are confronted with is some random sa users not getting credit from one particular guy as opposed to the wrong of intellectual property rights being enforced? Anyways I'd like to see both website dissolve into the fabric of the internet because hay kids destruction rules okay :cool: |
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Ebaumsworld is the most staggeringly shit site on the internet.
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It's pretty simple. Imagine GD having some kind of creative graphical weekly contest, just for fun. Imagine some wanker with a rich dad steals all our content, put it on his site and makes an assload of money from it. Aside legal issues, we would be pretty pissed off.
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