[Tour de France] Floyd Landis in 'super stage' drug shocker
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The funny thing is when he did that i made a bet with some friends that he'd been on some sort of marching powder, i wish id made a thread on GD because my penis would look big right about now. Cycling really should relax it rules on these drugs, they all take them - just look at Jan Ullrich. Lance Armstrong didn't win his titles on a talent alone. Just to preempt the funny (incase it does happen) lol at Oscar Pereiro being given the tour only to test positive for something. |
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K I've propagated hearsay against Landis and Pereiro, but yeah theres no proof armstrong ever took performance enhancing drugs, on the 'off chance' the samples that he gave in the past are tested in the future to proove the baseless accusations my penis will look bigger than yours :mad: |
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heheh i just went to the cycling thing on there and laughed at one of the articles written before the tour.
heheh down the toilet please? |
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'performance enhancing drugs' is such a stupid phrase. every athlete takes 'performance enhancing drugs.'
anyway, in other news that surprises no one, LANCE BASS IS A QUEER! |
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all the people he has succesfully sued over such basless accusations tend to back s|k's point up though |
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But that's not proof of absence, that's absence of proof. Just saying, y'know. |
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The spats between the UCI/armstrong/WADA are the funniest though, WADA does a test and tuts, the UCI appoints their own investigator for an independant inquiry, the independant report from the appointed official says the tests were crap, armstrong writes to the IOC saying WADA are shit, WADA say the report was farcial and plan to sue.
btw it should be noted, because its funny in the manner a 5 year old would approve, that the head of WADA is called Dick Pound. |
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who does? |
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face it all competitors in the tour are doped up more or less
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hey, i just saw an interview with his mother on espn,
and now i know where all that extra testosterone came from. |
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I don't really have any issues with athletes taking 500 metric tons of drugs before each race. Questions of what is "natural" or not are just mindless.
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'it's only cheating when you get caught', and all that. in the society we live in nowadays people shouldn't prove themselves to be innocent; others should prove them to be guilty. [off-topic]this TdF i ended #5 out of 13.200 people in a prediction league, organised by a local newspaper. i'm now invited to some tourquiz at september 1, where i will battle for the prices together with the others in top25. some 'miss' and a few prodrivers that also rode the TdF will hand over the prices. currently i'm on a 1000 euro citybike, when i'm lucky i'll win the 2000 euro racebike... so i'll be studying on Tour-knowlegde in august! :D[/off-topic] |
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That independant organisation was appointed by the UCI, WADA are now considering legal action against the people who wrote that report! edit to clarify and afaik (could be wrong) it comes down to the tests not being done according to procedures because they were unusual tests, the report basically said this was unscientific, WADA et al say that it isn't unscientific just not procedural or something like that. Quote:
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:up: :) |
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Anyways, sports figures are role models, and that comes with a responsibility. |
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Every year people (amateurs) from around here (can't get any flatter here) organize a trip to l'Alpe, just to cycle up and down. |
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personally i don't listen to any music if i believe the relevant musician may have been under the influence of any unlawful chemicals during the creative process.
it simply isn't fair to the other musicians who follows the laws. CHEATING i says. |
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The odd thing is that testosterone takes time (several weeks) to build up muscle tissue. It would have had little effect in the short term. Given that Landis passed six previous drug tests during the Tour it's curious that he would have started taking such a slow acting drug rather late in the race.
It would still be cheating*, ofc, but it seems like really dumb cheating. :confused: *Cheating in the sense of being against the rules. I don't care what drugs various sport governing bodies want to allow or disallow, but obviously they have a right and an obligation to enforce their rules--whatever they may be. |
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hey tact, how 'bout them twinkies?* *i realize this post is an utter irrevocable jinx |
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If however you are valuing pain and sacrifice in order to improve performance then separating out drug use seems singularly irrational. Someone is allowed to build muscle mass to the point where it will be a danger to them in late or sit at home playing 360 games 'till they get RSI, someone is allowed to go on a diet where their body is pretty warped, but if they inject in some chemical they're an evil criminal. But the point stands - if you admire a sportsman so much that you'd want to copy them (if they for example took a dangerous amount of steroids) then I'm hardly going to mourn you when you have a heart-attack. Same for any other idiot who OD's (and yes, that includes people like me). Obviously children are a different point, but on the whole young children don't (or shouldn't) have the ability to buy dangerous drugs. |
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No, it really isn't a circular argument. There are two things I don't like that I have mentioned in this discussion - drug use in sports, and cheating, lying, and subterfuge to get ahead. If drugs were legal, and someone were cheating and lying about something else to win, like hurting the other opponents, or using a motor on their bike or something, then I'd feel the same way about it.
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I just want to see the flying human olympics. Is it so much to ask that everyone inject some bloody drugs and grow wings?
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I agree with several points which have been made in this thread.
1. There is much hypocracy in sports (as in the rest of life) 2. People should either follow the rules or work to have the rules changed. It is not fair to want everyone else to play by the rules while you make them up as you go along. 3. Athletes as role modles is a very bad idea as most high-level, professional athletes are young persons who have, for their entire life, been fawned on and pampered and indulged just because they have the ability to kick a ball, run fast, whatever better than everyone else. This is not to say that silly old people are any more useful as role modles, however. |
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to be honest, I really think it are the 4 scotches and the 2 beers that made his testostoron/epitestotoron level go above the allowed ratio. In all previous tests he was just under it, and it has been known that he has a high ratio from the start of his career up until now.
They have to get proof other then a blood ratio to convince me that he indeed took doping. |
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