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1-X 10 Aug 2004 18:30

[Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Apologies for the late start (and the awful title, but it is the sequel to the "TNG" league :p
Think of it as a punishment for mocking the mighty championship; now you're in a league with an embarrassing name too :D)

If any "new" people want to play, I think I have a way for teams to be taken by two people. Just claim a team and I'll add you to the fixture list.

Code:

1 Kurashima        Newcastle
2 Grimble v2.0  Birmingham
3 midge5        Middlesbrough
4 Deffeh        Liverpool
5 JC                Blackburn
6 Ragnarak        Tottenham
7 Non.Human        Crystal Palace
8 Lokken        Portsmouth
9 Lupin                Aston Villa
10 Blastoderm  Norwich
11 Apothos        Charlton
12 Zharkov        Man City
13 Koen        Fulham
14 JonnyBGood        changing random prem
15 Phang        changing random prem
16 LHC                changing random prem
17 Stew                changing random prem
18 1-X                changing random prem
19 SYMM                changing random prem
20 MrL_JaKiri        provisionally random

21 Skiddy        Newcastle2

Apothos and Zharkov asked for a random fixed team. I made sure you didn't get the same as last season (Everton/Southampton).

Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Utd, Bolton, Everton, Southampton, West Brom become the pool for random changing.

Scoring will be slightly different to last season.

G1, A2, X3... A2 will be for any draw, a general home with correct home goals, a general away with correct away goals, but no longer for correct goal difference (unless you all scream "CHANGE IT BACK!!")
HST, a point each for correct halftime score, named first scorer, and time of first goal +-3 mins.

example...
Code:

Kurashima (Newcastle)  v  (Blackburn]      JC
FT 3-0                3-1              FT 2-0
HT 1-0                      1-0              HT 0-0
Kluivert 13        Bellamy 16      Shearer 60
ATH                                            G
                Kura 4 - 1 JC

A few of you have had a preview of my "predictability handicap". It's a rule I might add later. All you need to know is that predictable teams could be made harder to win with if it seems people have an advantage. Allowing people to change teams later, or join/leave the random changing group should be ok too.

If any "new" people want to play, I think I have a way for teams to be taken by two people. Just claim a team and I'll add you to the fixture list.

1-X 10 Aug 2004 18:31

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
this week's random teams

Code:

JonnyBGood        Everton
Phang                Southampton
LHC                West Brom
Stew                Man Utd
1-X                Arsenal
SYMM                Chelsea
MrL_JaKiri        Bolton

You won't get the same team again until you've had a match with all the others.

1-X 10 Aug 2004 18:32

*** fixture list ***
 
Code:

Sat 14th August

[Tottenham]  Ragnarak v Deffeh    [Liverpool]
[Norwich]  Blastoderm v Non.Human  [C.Palace]
[Portsmouth]  Lokken v Grimble  [Birmingham]
[Aston Villa]  Lupin v Phang    [Southampton]
[Blackburn]        JC v LHC        [West Brom]
[Bolton]  MrL_JaKiri v Apothos    [Charlton]
[Man City]    Zharkov v Koen          [Fulham]
[Middlesbro]  midge5 v Kurashima [Newcastle1]
[Middlesbro]  midge5 v Skiddy    [Newcastle2]

Sun 15th August

[Everton]  JonnyBGood v Arsenal          [1-X]
[Chelsea]        SYMM v Stew        [Man Utd]

(remember FT, HT, 1st scorer + time)

roadrunner_0 10 Aug 2004 18:34

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
sorry, MrL txt me back to say he did want to play, but i dont think he has had time or opportunity to get online yet
when do you need him online by and i will txt him again?

skiddy 10 Aug 2004 18:40

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
I wanna play. Give me a team.

1-X 10 Aug 2004 18:44

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roadrunner_0
sorry, MrL txt me back to say he did want to play, but i dont think he has had time or opportunity to get online yet
when do you need him online by and i will txt him again?

anytime before saturday to predict the match I've allocated in his absence. He can choose a permanent team later if he wants to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by skiddy
I wanna play. Give me a team.

do you want me to choose any one for you, or do you have a preference?

skiddy 10 Aug 2004 18:44

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
What can I have (Newcastle)?

1-X 10 Aug 2004 18:45

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
anything but manu/chelsea/arsenal so newcastle is fine

skiddy 10 Aug 2004 18:46

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
\o/

I'll take Newcastle then.

1-X 10 Aug 2004 18:51

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
the way it will work... midge5, kurashima and skiddy all predict the middlesbro v newcastle match

kura and skiddy have their scores compared to midge5's
midge5 is scored against the average of kura and skiddy (probably, there are various methods and I'll see what works best after we have some results)

if someone else signs up as middlesbrough2 then there would be two completely separate matches

SYMM 10 Aug 2004 19:16

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Chelsea - Man Utd
0-1
1-2
23
Van Nistelrooy

JC 10 Aug 2004 19:23

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1-X
Code:

Kurashima (Newcastle)  v  (Blackburn]      JC
FT 3-0                3-1              FT 2-0
HT 1-0                      1-0              HT 0-0
Kluivert 13        Bellamy 16      Shearer 60
ATH                                            G
                Kura 4 - 1 JC


This upsets me greatly :(. I have never predicted us to lose and you have Kura beating me, talk about rubbing salt in the wound :(.

JonnyBGood 10 Aug 2004 19:25

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Nobody's ever been beaten at anything by kura. Your example is both unrealistic and confusing 1-X. Your public demands in-depth explanations accompanied by charts and preferrably a graph correlating JC's bias with kura's outright stupidity.



PS :up:

1-X 10 Aug 2004 19:38

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
can I claim it was intentionally unrealistic to help illustrate the fact that it was a fictional example?

JonnyBGood 10 Aug 2004 19:40

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
I'm still waiting for my ****ing chart here :mad:

LHC 10 Aug 2004 19:49

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Blackburn - West Brom
FT: 2-0
HT: 1-0
Stead
33'

1-X 10 Aug 2004 19:54

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBGood
I'm still waiting for my ****ing chart here :mad:

There is nothing to chart unless there is a variation in possible values of JC's bias and Kura's outright stupidity. Are you suggesting they are ever anything other than 100%?

JonnyBGood 10 Aug 2004 20:02

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
I like charts :)



PS Everton vs Arsenal
1-3
0-2
Reyes 24

Lupin 10 Aug 2004 20:03

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Aston Villa - Southhampton

FT: 2 - 1
HT: 0 - 0

Vassel
52'

edit: thanks LHC!

midge5 10 Aug 2004 20:33

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1-X
the way it will work... midge5, kurashima and skiddy all predict the middlesbro v newcastle match

kura and skiddy have their scores compared to midge5's
midge5 is scored against the average of kura and skiddy (probably, there are various methods and I'll see what works best after we have some results)

if someone else signs up as middlesbrough2 then there would be two completely separate matches

So at the moment, say I scored 4, Skiddy 6 and Kura 1. Here Skiddy would get 3 points for beating me and I would get 3 points as their average is only 3.5. While If I had 1 and Kura 4 then the 2 of them would both get 3 points.

LHC 10 Aug 2004 20:49

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupin
Aston Villa - Southhampton

HT: 2 - 1
FT: 0 - 0
'

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

1-X 10 Aug 2004 22:50

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by midge5
So at the moment, say I scored 4, Skiddy 6 and Kura 1. Here Skiddy would get 3 points for beating me and I would get 3 points as their average is only 3.5. While If I had 1 and Kura 4 then the 2 of them would both get 3 points.

yes, that's how it will work (unless I change it). It depends on both Newcastle predictors genuinely trying to win, and I have a sneaky feeling one of them might not do so :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LHC
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Obviously he mixed up HT and FT.

Deffeh 10 Aug 2004 22:58

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
[Tottenham] Ragnarak v Deffeh [Liverpool]

HT : Tottenham 0-1 Liverpool
FT : Tottenham 1-3 Liverpool

Gerrard 33'

midge5 10 Aug 2004 23:06

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Middlesbro] midge5 v Kurashima [Newcastle1]
v Skiddy [Newcastle2]

HT: 1-0
FT: 2-1
Viduka 28

Rids 10 Aug 2004 23:17

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Would have loved to have entered, but with a new full time job starting and more holidays than I care to think about coming up, I'd suck :/

Kurashima 10 Aug 2004 23:59

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Middlesboro (Midge) v Newcastle (Kurashima & some Geordie alcoholic)

HT : 1 - 1
FT : 2 - 2
Shearer (13)

Kurashima 11 Aug 2004 00:00

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rids
Would have loved to have entered, but with a new full time job starting and more holidays than I care to think about coming up, I'd suck :/

No Change there Then!

Blastoderm 11 Aug 2004 00:55

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
[Norwich] Blastoderm v Non.Human [C.Palace]

HT: 0 - 1
FT: 3 - 1
Scorer: Neil Shipperley, 25

Stew 11 Aug 2004 22:18

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
[Chelsea] SYMM v Stew [Man Utd]

HT: 1-0
FT: 2-1

Scorer: Drogba, 14

1-X 11 Aug 2004 22:21

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
are you cursing getting man utd for a week when they have an unpredictable match? :p

also , predict time of first goal. I decided to keep it, but made it harder (+-3)

Nondescript Human 11 Aug 2004 22:26

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
[Norwich] Blastoderm v Non.Human [C.Palace]
HT: 1-0
FT: 2-1
Darren Huckerby, 7

KoeN 11 Aug 2004 22:36

Re: *** fixture list ***
 
[Man City] Zharkov v Koen [Fulham]

FT 1-2
HT 0-1
1st scorer: Collins John (30)

Ragnarak 11 Aug 2004 23:23

Re: *** fixture list ***
 
[Tottenham] Ragnarak v Deffeh [Liverpool]
FT:1-0
HT:0-0
Defoe
39



(Is there a problem with the lack of consistency in this prediction? If so i can change it...)

1-X 11 Aug 2004 23:35

Re: *** fixture list ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnarak
[Tottenham] Ragnarak v Deffeh [Liverpool]
FT:1-0
HT:0-0
Defoe
39



(Is there a problem with the lack of consistency in this prediction? If so i can change it...)

I don't mind, but if people complain, then it could become a rule that predictions must be logical.

Ragnarak 11 Aug 2004 23:55

Re: *** fixture list ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1-X
I don't mind, but if people complain, then it could become a rule that predictions must be logical.


Fair enough.

JC 12 Aug 2004 11:33

Re: *** fixture list ***
 
[Blackburn] JC v LHC [West Brom]

FT: 4-1
HT: 2-0
Scorer: Dickov, 18

Apothos 12 Aug 2004 12:14

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
[Bolton] MrL_JaKiri v Apothos [Charlton]

FT: 0 - 0
HT: 0 - 0
Scorer: n/a

Phang 12 Aug 2004 13:00

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Aston Villa (Lupin) v Southampton (me)

FT: 1 - 1
HT: 0 - 1

Beattie
25'

Blastoderm 12 Aug 2004 13:52

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Beattie could move to Villa.

1-X 13 Aug 2004 16:44

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Everton v Arsenal
HT 0-1, FT 0-2
Reyes, 37

1-X 13 Aug 2004 16:50

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Apothos
[Bolton] MrL_JaKiri v Apothos [Charlton]

FT: 0 - 0
HT: 0 - 0
Scorer: n/a

while this is a perfectly acceptable prediction, and you would get bonus points for scorer and time if there were none.... you could predict a scorer + time to have a chance of points if your score prediction is wrong. Actually, it highlights why Ragnarak's prediction probably shouldn't be allowed, but as no-one seemed to mind, non-logical predictions are currently acceptable.

Can anyone remember what we did last season? :)

people who haven't predicted yet

Grimble
Lokken
Zharkov
MrL_JaKiri

skiddy 13 Aug 2004 20:12

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Middlesboro v Newcastle

FT 1-3
HT 0-2

1st Scorer Shearer 28 mins

Apothos 14 Aug 2004 09:38

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1-X
while this is a perfectly acceptable prediction, and you would get bonus points for scorer and time if there were none.... you could predict a scorer + time to have a chance of points if your score prediction is wrong. Actually, it highlights why Ragnarak's prediction probably shouldn't be allowed, but as no-one seemed to mind, non-logical predictions are currently acceptable.

Yeah i thought about that, but i figured with my luck if i added a scorer 0-0 would be the result and i'd miss-out.

JC 14 Aug 2004 11:16

Re: *** fixture list ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JC
[Blackburn] JC v LHC [West Brom]

FT: 4-1
HT: 2-0
Scorer: Dickov, 18

Make that Yorke in the 18th minute not Dickov :).

Blastoderm 14 Aug 2004 14:59

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
[Norwich] Blastoderm v Non.Human [C.Palace]

HT: 0 - 1
FT: 3 - 1
Scorer: Johnson, 25

Edit: Niel Shipperly is injured.

Zharkov 14 Aug 2004 16:06

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Damnit, I thought I'd get back from holiday in time to predict, but obviously I was wrong :(

1-X 14 Aug 2004 16:59

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
5 out of 7 results were 1-1 :eek:

Code:

[Tottenham]  Ragnarak v Deffeh    [Liverpool]
0-0                    0-1                  0-1
1-0                    1-1                  1-3
Defoe 39          Cisse 37            Gerrard 33
T                                            H
          Ragnarak 1 - 1 Deffeh

Code:

[Norwich]  Blastoderm v Non.Human  [C.Palace]
0-1                    1-0                    1-0
3-1                    1-1                    2-1
Johnson 25        Huckerby 16            Huckerby 7
                                            HS
            Blasto 0 - 2 Non.Human

Code:

[Portsmouth]  Lokken v Grimble  [Birmingham]
DNP                    1-1                  DNP
                    1-1
                  Savage 10

              Lokken 0 - 0 Grimble

Code:

[Aston Villa]  Lupin v Phang    [Southampton]
0-0                    2-0                  0-1
2-1                    2-0                  1-1
Vassell 52          Vassell 12            Beattie 25
AS
              Lupin 3 - 0 Phang

Code:

[Blackburn]        JC v LHC        [West Brom]
2-0                    0-1                  1-0
4-1                    1-1                  2-0
Yorke 18          Clement 33              Stead 33
                                            T
                  JC 0 - 1 LHC

Code:

[Bolton]  MrL_JaKiri v Apothos    [Charlton]
DNP                    2-0                  0-0
                    4-1                    0-0
                  Okocha 11                  n/a

                MrL 0 - 0 Apothos

Code:

[Man City]    Zharkov v Koen          [Fulham]
DNP                    1-0                  0-1
                    1-1                    1-2
                  Fowler 30            Collins 30
                                            T
            Zharkov 0 - 1 Koen


1-X 14 Aug 2004 19:34

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
Code:

[Middlesbro]  midge5 v Kurashima [Newcastle1]
1-0                    0-1                  1-1
2-1                    2-2                  2-2
Viduka 28        Bellamy 13            Shearer 13
                                            XT
            midge5 0 - 4 Kura

Code:

[Middlesbro]  midge5 v Skiddy    [Newcastle2]
1-0                        0-1                  0-2
2-1                    2-2                  1-3
Viduka 28        Bellamy 13            Shearer 28

            midge5 0 - 0 Skiddy

Kura gets a win, Skiddy gets a draw, midge5 gets a defeat (0-2)

Deffeh 14 Aug 2004 19:59

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
how many minutes either side to get a T?

midge5 14 Aug 2004 20:00

Re: [Football] Prediction League - DS9 :rolleyes:
 
3, it was reduced for this season.


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