West Virginia and Homophobia
http://www.wchstv.com/newsroom/eyewi...070906-1.shtml
I just read that article and watched the video. Other articles about the incident are located here: http://www.wsaz.com/home/headlines/9646272.html http://www.herald-dispatch.com/apps/...21/1005/NEWS10 Apparently being beaten up and killed for being homosexual is not considered a hate crime in the state of West Virginia. It's just a standard homicide where 3 people show up, beat up a man who is gay, shout derogatory comments about him being gay and then go on about their business. It's like the state is condoning gay bashing. No wonder people make fun of this state. |
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Aren't you busy biting some chicken's head off in a Christian meeting somewhere?
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Even if this isn't true, wouldn't it just be second-degree murder anyway? |
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I'm not too troubled at this to be quite honest. It seems to me that it's the correct decision to treat a homicide as a... homicide. One would expect that a prosecutor (assuming it goes to court) would use the slurs in his case, but seeing as it's just a bunch of cops investigating a crime (whatever crime), I see no problem with the current approach.
Of course this changes when cops put less effort in the case because it was a gay man who was killed, but there are no indications this is the case. |
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why is it appealing to over react together?
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Hate crime legislation is retarded.
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Nothing wrong with hate crimes.
It brings cash into the United Negro College Fund & sells newspapers! |
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See, that's the difference between contributing to the solution (turning the lights off when you leave the room) and patching up a symptom (using hate crime legislation to cover up one of the problems with jury trials).
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Except that without large-scale social changes (in attitude and action) both are little more than symbolic actions. Except of course, that hate crime legislation might actually have a noticable impact until the human race wipes itself out.
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Hate crime legislation was introduced by the Government for two main reasons: to ensure that racism is always an aggravating factor, and to get rid of judges' sentencing discretion in this respect. |
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However, the analogy itself is flawed, making this a rather trivial discussion. |
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Of course it's not ideal but this legislation can never be anything more than a patch as it doesn't deal with the underlying issues that a lot of people in this country are completely ****ed in the head. There is a river of racism, homophobia and general bigotry running right below the surface and it's only a matter of time before it all explodes to the surface. But seeing as the liklihood of addressing the underlying problems is practically zero, this is all you can really expect.
I'm not sure if these laws have any greater aim than deterring people from racist attacks* but it's the best you're gonig to get without wholesale social change. *whether this is effective or not is kind of irrelevent |
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I'm thinking he didn't just quote a random christian. Care to elaborate, Keizari?
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I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. That passage refers to the 2nd coming of Christ. I have yet to find a passage in the bible where homosexuals are certain to go to Hell. There is one passage that states that they should be killed if caught in the act of fornication. Leviticus 20:13 (New International Version) " 'If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads. Also I am unable to find a passage regarding women sleeping with other women. I cannot find anything about homosexuality being a disease. The person that said that must be in fear of catching homosexuality or homophobic. Homosexuality in and of itself is not a sin. The act of sex outside of Marriage is a sin. Sin can be forgiven by Jesus. Gay people will not go to hell just for being gay. There are ALOT of hypocritical christians that want to judge gay people more than share the word about a loving God. |
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"Accept God's boundless love and compassion or suffer unimaginably in hell for all eternity."
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To be honest I think the bulk of the Torah should be rejected both by Christians and fervent detractors because granting much of it credibility degrades them both.
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Chazz: Who'd win in a wrestling match, Lemmy or God?
Cop: Lemmy Rex: *incorrect game show buzzer sound* Cop: ... God! Rex: Wrong, dickhead, trick question. Lemmy is God. See, it's already happened, just no-one was paying attention. |
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Because it has cool stories about dads raping their daughters and people murdering other people by the dozen. Why else do you think the book is so popular?
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The old testament is made up of the hebrew bible and Deuterocanonical books(Protestants don't consider the Deuterocanonical books to be canon so they aren't included in the king james addition f.ex) and were considered biblical cannon so are included in the all copies of the bible to some degree. Quote:
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Way to side-step the question. hi-5!
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No, you should probably just stone them to death. The writers of the bible were huge fans of stoning.
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So what then? Electric chair? Lethal injection?
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judicial, i thought that was obvious :(
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So homosexuality is no longer a sin?
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