Is Wales a Country?
I've just had a very interesting debate in my office.
Some are arguing Wales is a country (me included) and others are stating United Kingdom is the country. So Wales have: Their own language Their own Flag Their own National football team A defined set of land But they're not a country? How is this so? Apparently it depends on people's opinion I quote from here: Quote:
So what is it? A country or not? |
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wales is a country
under occupation but still a country |
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Ok so it is an independant country.
That is a given. Like Australia is a seperate goverment but the Queen is their Head of State etc |
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A region of England.
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there aer different words for the UK and its constituent states, firstly, you have england, which, surprisingly enough is just england, then, you have britain, which (iirc) is england, wales and scotland, then you have the united kingdom, which (again, iirc) is britain plus northern island and various islands.
wales scotland and england are all countries in their own right, NI isnt, and is rather a dependancy (not sure that that's the right word but ho hum) of britain |
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Wales is a principality.
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When in doubt why don't you just wiki (although i knew it was a Principality before i did so).
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wales is just a big county really, I mean cornwall has their own language (and more of a claim to being its own country than most of the UK) but they're still viewed as a county.
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Who cares, Wales is shit anyway.
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The real question is: "What is a country". Answer that and we'll be sorted.
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I mean look at it. There isn't even a question mark! |
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*that can qualify for the WC/Euro |
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The United Kingdom is made up of four countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Its full name is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain, however, comprises only England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the largest island of the British Isles. Northern Ireland and the Irish Republic form the second largest island. The UK is just under 1,000 km long from the south coast of England to the extreme north of Scotland, and is 500 km across at its widest point. It shares a single land border with the Irish Republic. Despite its relatively small size the UK boosts incredibly varied and often very beautiful scenery. The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are not part of the United Kingdom. They are largely self-governing with their own legislative assemblies and systems of law. But the British Government is responsible for their defence and international relations. On this site the term 'Britain' is used informally to mean the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Read on to find out more about how England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are administered. Please tell me they are wrong, wouldn't be the only time they have been ;) |
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For my money it is, simply because it has such accepted and well defined boundaries and a people that would call themselves "welsh" first rather than british.
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My point is this: if wales is a country, so is cornwall, and a number of other places in england, it's hardly fair to seperate one inward looking comunity and say "this is a country" and look at another and say "this is a county", when they can both offer the same justifying arguments as to why they are countries. |
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I think the idea of countries is fundamentally meaningless so no it isn't, but then again neither is anything else.
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I believe outside of the UK most people view Wales as part of Britain/England, not as an own country. |
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If the United Kingdom is a country then Wales can't be a country too. It just does not make sense!
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Wales is a state of mind.
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Isnt Wales a nation? :confused:
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A country, in the sense of being a nation, can pursue an independent foreign policy. Wales does not qualify.
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neither does england under blair amirite? edit:quote added for clarity |
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As long as Norway and Japan keep bribing the likes of Essention Island and Lard is back on our shelves, I don't care if my lamb tastes of Brouwerij Breda.
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Wales is the part of England that was too hilly so we let them have it :D
Nah, in all seriousness i believe it is its own country. They have there own infrastructure, capital and hills. Most Welsh people seem very very nationalistic though in my experience... |
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its an annex of England
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In 50 million years when the continents look different where will we all claim to be "from"?
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That's if the Earth is still here and we didn't blow it up, or totally kill the environment.
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Or maybe we'll all just be individuals by that stage. After all 50 million years might well be a long enough time for human beings to consider each other as people. |
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