Say goodbye to image searching
 

http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/2100-1...ecoustics-cnet

Your going to have to find new methods to search for porn. :/

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All google needs to do is host servers in some scandanavian country. Works for Torrent files.

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I don't see any major effect but i'll read the judgement

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Nay, it will have to do more than host search there, it'll have to move its base of operations there and delist its hundred billion dollars worth of assets from the NASDAQ to be out of the US court's jurisdiction and SEC investigation. I'm sure they'll just disable image searching instead.

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Or appeal and say they aren't hosting the images.

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Yeah at worst, they'll ask people to put a new robots Meta tag on their pages if they don't want their images thumbnailed on Google Search. Just now considered that as a solution, god they should hire me.

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They do cache the images.

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Well then google will have to be destroyed because it is depriving another great company of its well diserved wealth in the world of free market!

Honestly, some people take it too far.

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Was it not 'decided' recently that google's caching of data was 'fair use'? I don't see why text would be different from images in that respect...
[edit] found it: http://news.com.com/2061-10812_3-603...1266&subj=news
It seems the decision was made because the suer could have stopped the caching.

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they could just buy the rights to the photos from an issue of penthouse and have all image searches respond with a random selection of that set.

suddenly everything is all legal and none of the customers notice the difference.

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No, this wont happen. Under the current system, its equivalent to telling people to paint a red X on their front door if they dont want their house broken into.

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because a lot of websites are damaged after 'being broken into' by google. and they get very mad when all of their images are gone.

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Yahoo! Video search for the win!

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This is standard operating procedure, if you don't want Google to index your site you have to tell it not to with a robots.txt page. Also if you don't want your page cached by search engines they have meta tags used for that as well. These are in operation as we speak. I don't think it's any different from putting a Copyright claim on a magazine or on a website for that matter, just it's a copyright claim for computers and not people.

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Indexing sites and caching pages isnt illegal, hosting protected images is. The point is that the owners shouldnt (legally) be expected to do extra work in order to protect their IP.

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I don't understand why a cache of a web page, with copyrighted content, is any different than a cache of the image. The cache of the web page includes the site's images.

How is Google to determine which pictures are protected and which arent when there are so many of them?

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that's like someone putting all their belongings on the street and expect them not to be stolen. when you put something on the internet, it's publicly accessible by anyone.

you must do extra work for your work to be protected, just like in happens outside of the internet ..

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it's still a crime to steal someone's belongings even if they store them on the street

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because there's the idea of removing something from someone. it's a different matter when you make an identical copy of an item without destroying or harming the original one in any way. my example was that people should protect their belongings

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This is common sense, but I don't think this is a sound legal argument. Of course I'm no laywer so I don't really know.

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people should not need to protect their belongings.

society (through it's laws) should protect them for them.

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Did anyone read the link I posted? :|
It was decided in Nevada that because of the ability to 'protect' content from google with a robots.txt, that the cacheing of content constituted 'fair use', and wasn't in breach of copyright.
Now I realise that Nevada law isn't going to automatically influence the law everywhere else, but it certainly means it isn't as clear cut as it seems Nodrog would have us believe, and that (in some contexts at least) it seems the onus is on the owners to tell search engines to skip over their content.

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Right (I wanted to read the bloody thing and check before i posted because it's not my native legal system after all) but the first thing to say is that:

it is just an injunction. it's not determinitive. The case hasn't been won (or lost) yet.

The test for getting an injunction is lower than for actually winning in court.

Secondly as the article points out (and mark quoted) this is really not going to affect google world wide.

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Does it?

When I look at a cache of this site the images all look like they are from pirate.planetarion.com (if I look at the properties of an individual icon for instance). If I look at a cache of a site that is down, generally all I will see is the text of the page, not the images.
I think a better analogy would be putting your things (or yourself) out in the street and expecting them not to be photographed. I suppose a 'reasonable expectation of privacy' could be a good place to start when considering these sorts of questions.

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You are a pretty poor troll Green Spit.

I don't really use Google image search so it doesn't really bother me, when ever I try to enlarge the thumbnails something always goes wrong and the images never work. However, I don't really see what harm Google was causing by having the feature, surely it just generated additional traffic for the website since inorder to enlarge the image you have to see view the page it's on

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are people complaining about google storing the images, or google providing thumbnails (with an associated quality loss)?

either way, i expect google to win.

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How many appeals can Google try after this in the US system?

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the case was brought against google by a site called perfect 10 or something, and it was to stop google caching images which had been pirated from there and featured on other sites, quite frankly, its ****ing ridiculous that the judge expects google to be responsible for someone elses copyright violation

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Federal court -> appellate court -> supreme court. Although that doesn't mean it's 3 trials. I think you can be shot back down to the federal court from the appellate court and then back up and down and around until you get dizzy.