Ding Dong Ding - the Killing of PA
So sad and really angry about what is happening and expect to see the normal troll comments about tears etc. because this is the stock standard response you get from bullies.
How can any of you let QQ go on the way they are? Really tired of the mercenary way they operate. Is gonna be hard to keep people playing and we are only small alliance and the people we are trying to keep playing are actually not the ones that have been fc'd. So, chalk one up for the bullies. I don't want to hear anything about stop your crying, this is a war game.... well, no it's not anymore if this is how it's going to be and of course, will just be a case of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. Fair enough one fc was in retaliation, but the other ones being set up by those being attacked are just totally unreasonable. This is cheating as far as I am concerned. It is also farming on an extreme level. Those that have organised these fc's should also be ashamed of themselves having such a win at all costs attitude. You do realise tags like ours aren't any threat to your damn pwin. Not that I think there is any difference if we were one of the top tags. It is despicable any way you look at it. Today, one of our guys got told not to send our fr to one of the top alliances as they were feeding fr ships to QQ. So, here we have another alliance that we pretty much will be forced not to galraid, yet they send attacks on us fairly consistently. Made me feel ill to have read the message about this. How many other alliances or individuals have done deals with these bullies? Afterall, they have been advertising enough for you to contact them to offer up VULNERABLE ships. The ones that have been fc'd are pretty much forced to now play as defence planets. All that crap those fools spouted about cheats, etc. being a reason they were doing this, well, think that was a load of bull. As much as we would love to return the favour, we just don't have the activity in numbers to do it. Admins, you need to address this gameplay if you want to keep your player base. It's not fun and makes it just a waste of time building up your fleet and alliance to lose it to this type of gameplay. Okay... think that's it..... <nervously chews fingernails>. |
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Funny. The ones fighting corruption in the game are now what they sought to eradicate.
To offer some clarification on one instance. I (Stellar) attacked a CT planet in a standard attack raid that included 2:10:4 (nick Forest). He was sitting on a juicy 1700 roids. On the day there were some double bookings on him and his gal and ally were doing well covering other waves. My attack partner and I got through. Landed. I was fleetcaught, not by CT but by Blueballs (QQ/Victims etc.). My race is Xan. There was no way they'd know my full fleet was there unless Forest gave them the landing info. Blueballs stole my entire Fr fleet (65k of them, RIP pilots). So it looks like he was salty losing roids and cried to QQ to get some sort of cowardly vengeance. Our HCs chat with QQ seems to agree with this assumption. While it probably isn't really cheating, this sort of activity is really concerning. I hope QQ re-evaluate their position within the game. Luckily it's a chill round for me but probably not most the other people you FC regularly. It can drive people from the game, we are already struggling with player base. I can understand FCs to police the game and FCs when they are in retaliation on attacks on you as a strategy but it's a whole different thing to be a 3rd party merc for anyone who wants some easy revenge after losing a few rocks. |
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We sold all your FR cowkie. and Wendy this doesn't stop being a war game and turn into a big corporation because you're upset.
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Wendy can you please specify the violated terms to make a fleetcatch cheating and farming and tell us how the admins of this game reacted to it ?
other then that. feed us fleets, and we're busy with ****ing up other fleets. Cowkimon, you were lucky it was only your FR, look what juicy land we had today: https://game.planetarion.com/show_ne...xzdsg6ea3d6fwi thats his entire fleet. gone. because he roided us and thats how we defend ourself. regarding the deals ... wasnt it your alliance begging on their knees to sign some deal ? really wondering about this posting. btw. if you wanna chitchat we've got a nice telegram channel, go check it out: https://t.me/WEFUELOURSHIPSWITHYOURTEARS |
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Firstly you call us bullies, with a few exceptions most of our players are smaller in size/score than yours and we are the smaller tag , you hit smaller players/tag that makes you the bully not us Secondly everyone and stooms mum know our defensive stratedy is to fleetcatch or lolwave hostile planets/tags, this is not exclusive to the hostile planets their actions mean everyone in their tag is a valid target So this gives you two options Option A don't attack us Option B give us targets to fleetcatch/lolwave. You have then gone on to say that planets that have been fleetcaught are now forced to become def planets, I'm going to have to capitalize this to make my point THIS IS UTTER BULLSHIT PLANETS WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY FLEETCAUGHT HAVE FINISHED TOP 5/10 So that disproves your tearful "we can't play if you take away our ships" You get salvage for killed ships, you already have an income to replace the lost ships and if you are lucky enough to be in an alliance that gives a shit about its members then you also have the option to donate funds and give escorts to boost income We are not the reason the game is dying a very slow death, that's a combination of piss poor admin/no proper game development / shit multihunters who won't close cheaters because they threaten legal action (that this is true is hilarious) /cowardly alliances who refuse to look fight and seek private and public naps and avoidance deals the reason the other allys don't do anything is simple fear, they are worried about personal/tag score they don't want to deal with us because we are a right royal pain in the arse, we're unorthodox unpredictable and probably bat shit insane, we land attacks that should not land by any stretch of the imagination and recall attacks that should land You can't beat us with conventional gameplay because we don't play conventionally Replying with phone means this looks like shit so I will apologise for that but nothing else |
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Understanding the rules also helps. Fiery has repeatedly stated that FC will not be "nerfed" or "removed" and is a legitimate tactic. Quote:
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It can drive people from the game. The player base is struggling. FC to police the game...again, we've done our part. See my earlier point on this. Finally, we aren't a mercenary group for anyone this round. No Wheel, no "pay for recall" deals, etc. The charity we donated all the money to has repeatedly expressed their gratitude, so I'll just reiterate that here for those who were unaware...and a big thanks to those who donated without knowing it was going to charity and not a truck full of gin. |
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I have also stated that it is not the retaliation fc's I am referring to. As far as the guys asking for you to lay off, I actually hate that we were resorted to this but realising that morale in ally is dropping, this was what the guys needed to do politically. So, you guys in claiming that one of your objections is to Naptarion are forcing us to actually having to silently Nap and do not forget you also requested that we hit Peng to have this lay off. Guessing you all have Dictatorship governments.. lol I wear my heart on my sleeve and deeply care about our alliance and the people in it... so I make no apologies for voicing my opinions about it all. |
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hate that you resorted to what? ptargeting us than feeling the wrath? You needed to ptarget a smaller alliance that doesn't defend to raise your guys morale? then you cried that the smaller alliance ****ing owned your shit tag that was demoralized already by poor misguided HC? then you thought hiding naptarion would shield you from the naptarion woes? then admitted it here on this thread? good thing this is text because I am speechless... |
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We're not FCing because our lord and master Forest told us to, but because we really enjoy doing it. Big waves are fun. Big breps are fun. Waiting around at xx:59 to avoid counter-FCs is fun. Even calcing a big battle is fun... occasionally. These are the reasons we do what we do, not because we're desperate to suck Forest off. If people want to feed us juicy fleets, cool, that saves us the effort of finding a target of our own. However, if we don't get offered a good target, the only thing that would change is that we would find and FC some other fleet. |
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just some muppets who are short sighted and don't realise what they are doing to the game ... I should know I made a few 1up c*nts emo from being FCed back in r18 ... Yes I had fun till I realised they stopped playing
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Haha, so many tears about such a small problem...
People still haven't understood how QQ operates. 1. Has your ally attacked them? --> don't complain about being FCed. For the whole round, taking roids from an ally that doesn't defend costs this ally more value than one FCed fleet. Offense and FCs are their defense. So whenever you cry about a QQ FC, please complain to your ally mates going for the "easy roids". 2. Is being FCed ending your round? --> Nope. Wolf crashed his whole fleet and got FCed twice and ended top3. 3. Is it unfair to be FCed? --> Yep, definitely sometimes nice people are being hit. But please see question 1. 4. Is QQ killing the game? --> surely not. The last 30 rounds have been full of deal breaking, naptarion to boredom, 6vs1 preround blocks, gangbangs, escorts for #1 and constant cheating. I see no one complaining about sparks, cardi, cba, zwandick or the whole ODDR cheater gang. But sure, you wanna blame a 20 ppl tag for ruining the game? Honestly? Wasn't stellar napped to app for whole rounds? This game has more serious problems. If you helped solving them, you can still cry about a 20 ppl fun tag... Another note: how many ppl crash their fleet in attacks every round? Do you also have the whole tag whining for days when that happens? Is it also round ending and causing 5 ppl to "never play this game again"? I don't think so... So while I agree that being FCed isn't nice, you still get 40-60% of the fleet back via salvage. And if a planet ends rank80 or rank120 in the end doesn't really matter. So please don't try to blame a single alliance for the low morale of your player base. There are several reasons that need to be addressed first. |
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while it probably isnt considered cheating....
passing on information to other alliances to perform fleet catches because your alliance cant muster up the strength to do it yourself it's a pretty lowlife scumbag thing to do personally i do think it goes against the character of the game an NAP is just that.. non aggression it doesnt say anything about sharing intel i do think there should be a rule against it and blueball actually openly advertising it they are just the guy on the soccer field that takes a dive and pretends to be hurt to get a penalty in all honesty blueball should be taught a lesson all alliances should gang up on blueball and just hammer them into oblivion all alliances should have that friendly agreement with each other it really is a low life act even if it is within the rules of the game. |
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Posting anonymously does not speak well for the strength of your convictions, 'arandomguy'.
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its the internet... we are all anonymous
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---- Sad my FR was sold in the end. What a waste of invisibility paint. That stuff ain't cheap! I get the meta-gaming, I get you love big battles and the adrenaline. Just be aware a lot of players, usually the new ones, can be heavily time invested into a round, especially if they make t100 or even t25. To wipe a fleet in a random manner i.e. not a retal, can be almost soul destroying. Also, to say it has no change on the outcome of a planet's performance is a stretch. Using examples like Wolf is meaningless as he uses dedicated escorts, which an average player or teamup wouldn't. We all need to make sure the game is a good environment for new/returning players. So please let's try to choose targets wisely. This round is full of FCs and there's bound to be repercussions from this sort of environment. I am putting most of blame for my loss onto Forest and more generally anyone feeding this "meta-gaming" information for their personal gain, which seems to be for a sore ego in this case. Forest, if you are reading, that sort of behaviour was really cold blooded. *Smack*. |
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I find it easier if you just bend the knee. |
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I can't believe that experienced players not willing to spend time playing conventionally would find an asymmetric way of playing. Unfair.
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Having played this game for many years, I have seen it transform from the way it started which was all our war, but with 1000's against each other and 3 full tags each, to a 1v1 war game where if another ally joined they would both team up and take down the poachers.
You used to protect the alliance that lost the war by attacking anyone that tried to feed off them... The more recent rounds are based around about 10 players who control everything, it's quite a strange concept really. One ally per "Block" is chosen at the start of the round and all of the others rally around them to try and get them the win, no-one attacks solo, trolls are everywhere who are basically here to ruin other peoples round - QQ/Bluebells, that's you... tiered of the status quo so take out your anger by FCing random players to annoy them. Being FC is part of the game, check your landings, or if like me you pick BS, expect to be FC at some point, tough luck and get on with it. Most annoying thing for me in this game is the block warfare that this game has become, no-one dare fight a 1v1 anymore |
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Diplomacy and blocking is practically what defines Planetarion, but you're presenting it 1) as a problem to be solved, and 2) as something that hasn't been a part of PA since it's early days:
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No, I think I liked my 2 'lol's better after all. Very consise, I thought. |
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Fight fire with fire. If the other guy buys a bigger stick then buy a bigger stick yourself.
It is annoying though. |
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QQ are pathetic bullies with low selfesteem. Get a life or start playing. Anyone can play a troll game, VGN did it just 10x better. �� Also with zero attention whoring bs. |
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Dorf u are way better than this sank pathetic qq stuff. Really bro. Whats up? |
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Tought u just bent a knee to TS. |
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Wendy ftw |
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Time to let go of the school yard m8.
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Wow, people are still playing this game?
Absurd. |
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I confess Im a roid addict :D |
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Anyway round 3 was the peak of unfairness because two alliances basically allied together at the expense of everyone else. Round 5 at least had some kind of fight involved, we just overestimated how good xanadu were going to be. The only learning I can offer this thread is that if you are pissed off at another alliance, try and beat them. Fight fire with fire if necessary. Hard work but it can be done. |
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