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Phang 13 Sep 2007 13:15

The elixir of life!
 
Unfortunate headline

Marilyn Manson 13 Sep 2007 14:18

Re: The elixir of life!
 
Coke is good shit. Unfortunately.

Dante Hicks 13 Sep 2007 22:39

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Even at £30 a gram, I'm still not sure where "kids" are getting hold of that much of the stuff. I'm a bit of a waster I admit, but six years after graduating I'm still not sure I could afford much of a coke habit.

I'll stick to amphetamines. £6-£7 a gram, that's more like it.

Marilyn Manson 14 Sep 2007 15:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
I'm still not sure I could afford much of a coke habit.

Well that's what you get for living in London.

_Kila_ 16 Sep 2007 11:20

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where on earth do you get coke for £30 a gram? all the cokeheads here get it for £50 a gram :/

Also - to answer your question Dante - most of the kids doing it are rich private school kids who get ****loads of money from their parents.

My ex started doing coke when I was with her (she'd done it before, but started regular use whilst we were together) and I remember once we were supposed to go shopping but instead she used her shopping money to buy coke the night before. She now does it with her older sister and I assume they spend most of their pocket money on it (as well as her sister's wages). She's also looking for a job so most of that money will probably go to coke too.

Apparently she was arrested at reading for trying to sell drugs. heh.

Travler 16 Sep 2007 19:05

Re: The elixir of life!
 
Crystal Meth is the drug of choice around here. We even have mobile cooking labs.

All Systems Go 16 Sep 2007 19:07

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Your church must be really desperate for congregation members.

Travler 17 Sep 2007 05:33

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Originally Posted by All Systems Go
Your church must be really desperate for congregation members.

I meant people in the area. Not my church. You nearly made fall out of my chair I was laughing so hard.

Marilyn Manson 17 Sep 2007 11:20

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Originally Posted by _Kila_
where on earth do you get coke for £30 a gram? all the cokeheads here get it for £50 a gram :/

*does a little dance*

£50 is usually the average cost for high-quality stuff. The cheaper talc/bicarb crap (I.E, the stuff we get up here) should be no more than £30 anywhere and if someone is charging you more than that then they're ripping you off IMO.

Dante Hicks 17 Sep 2007 17:10

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Originally Posted by _Kila_
Also - to answer your question Dante - most of the kids doing it are rich private school kids who get ****loads of money from their parents.

This may be true in parts of London and some of the surrounding boroughs, but I'm not sure that there's hordes of private school kids somehow propping the drugs market of Newcastle or similar.
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Originally Posted by MM
£50 is usually the average cost for high-quality stuff. The cheaper talc/bicarb crap (I.E, the stuff we get up here) should be no more than £30 anywhere and if someone is charging you more than that then they're ripping you off IMO.

I've tended to find that the price you pay for such things is dependent on how well you know the person in question, how far along the supply chain you are, and how much the person is trying to shift in a short space of time. I suspect most (coke) dealers are attempting to rip off most of their customers regardless of what they're charging.

Deepflow 17 Sep 2007 17:35

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coke is a terrible drug anyway :)

Tomkat 17 Sep 2007 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
Even at £30 a gram, I'm still not sure where "kids" are getting hold of that much of the stuff.

I don't know how much a gram is (is that enough for one hit?) but £30 is a weekly wage for most kids who have Saturday or afterschool jobs (at about £4 an hour). It might sound like a lot, but that's how they choose to spend their money for recreation instead of on food or clothes or video games or whatever.

Dante Hicks 17 Sep 2007 18:58

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Originally Posted by Tomkat
I don't know how much a gram is (is that enough for one hit?) but £30 is a weekly wage for most kids who have Saturday or afterschool jobs (at about £4 an hour). It might sound like a lot, but that's how they choose to spend their money for recreation instead of on food or clothes or video games or whatever.

It depends on what you mean by "hit". If you're doing a line of cocaine which is one gram large then you probably are a hardcore mother****er. I think most estimates put a gram at between 12 and 20 lines, depending on how you're doing it. However, the high from one line doesn't last (in any sort of tangible high) for hours like other drugs - you tend to do them repeatedly over a period of time like a drinking session. But (and I appreciate it might be different with children) it's a social drug, so you'll almost never see all of that yourself (not to mention the waste/transaction costs which seem to inevitably occur.

But you've reinforced my point here - if you're doing a gram of cocaine a week then you're unlikely to have a cocaine "addiction" in any meaningful sense. OK, you could do your gram on Friday night and then spend every waking moment thinking about your next hit, but I doubt it - these sort of dopamine hits need to be more regular than that. Especially if you're snorting what is effectively 30% bicarb. Kids do have lots of other things to worry about so I concede that the placebo effect is contributing quite a bit to the problem.

_Kila_ 18 Sep 2007 19:43

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Originally Posted by Marilyn Manson
*does a little dance*

£50 is usually the average cost for high-quality stuff. The cheaper talc/bicarb crap (I.E, the stuff we get up here) should be no more than £30 anywhere and if someone is charging you more than that then they're ripping you off IMO.

I don't know about the stuff over here (as I've never done coke) but I assume the stuff that people I know get is pretty good as most of them get it through a friend who has the most reliable dealer (he deals for their whole family :/ ).
And, well, my ex, between her and her sister (and their group of friends) they probably know every drug dealer in london so I assume they get good stuff too.

To TK - a gram is usually more than enough for someone of my age for a weekend.

dda-II 19 Sep 2007 19:49

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"Cocaine Users 'Getting Younger'"

If you could get younger by using cocaine, I think that word would have gotten out by now and cocaine would be selling very briskly and those in my age group would be spending all of their available income on it.

Phang 19 Sep 2007 20:23

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Originally Posted by dda-II
"Cocaine Users 'Getting Younger'"

If you could get younger by using cocaine, I think that word would have gotten out by now and cocaine would be selling very briskly and those in my age group would be spending all of their available income on it.

someone understood :)

_Kila_ 21 Sep 2007 14:41

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everyone understood, they just decided to start a discussion about it.

Dante Hicks 21 Sep 2007 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dda-II
"Cocaine Users 'Getting Younger'"

If you could get younger by using cocaine, I think that word would have gotten out by now and cocaine would be selling very briskly and those in my age group would be spending all of their available income on it.

A thread commenting on someone elses discovery of such a gag in the BBC news headlines wasn't necessarily candidate for thread of the year*.

* = So help me god I so wanted to write "wasn't necessarily Class A material" :(

All Systems Go 22 Sep 2007 21:06

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Originally Posted by Dante Hicks
I'm still not sure I could afford much of a coke habit.

Does this assume you have given up your other 'meds' or this and extra cost on top?

TheShadowMan 25 Sep 2007 12:17

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hey all,

some poster wondered where school kids get that kind of money to buy drugs

Well to be honest when i was at school we used to chip in a few quid each to buy what we could and split evenly

or

i used to buy some on tick, divide up sell some so mine was free.

btw wasn't coke it was hash, but same princliples appy.

Have a mate with a serious coke habbit, he uses i'd say 3-4g a day of coke. Its very funny to see him scurry about when he can't get any, bit like watchin a smoker who runs out of fags and all the shops are shut x 100 heh.
Tried telling him that he needs help, well in between all the lines hahaha

tsm

Yahwe 26 Sep 2007 20:35

Re: The elixir of life!
 
finally an answer to the obesity crisis


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