Shipstats for dummies
Yes we want shipstats
No we don't want to see numbers *click* No need to read this entire thread! Relevant suggestions are added updated |
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jesus I am more confused now. They EMP exert helped a bit though
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An interesting approach, alessio, however a couple of questions:
Regarding the biased section; What does each star represent? and a dash? Number of targeted ships? What was the 'bonus fleet' and its composition? Regarding the other sections; Do you make the distinction between units that have the initiative advantage, or is it just based purely on targeting? Or rather, is it would considering the initiative advantage in your comparison? |
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I figured the zik CR fleet was a bonus fleet
Star is better defence, obviously Three stars is possible natural defence, one star means that you specificly have to start building defence for it if you want it dash means don't bother But I haven't calced zikonian DE EMP resistance enough coz it was late :p ----- Well, most people I know focus on 1 shiptype, and attack people that can be attacked So initiative and which ships are popular should be the main focus People mass produce shitships if they 'fit' in their fleet I've always attacked every race I could with any shiptype Zikonian have to focus even more on certain ships, which greatly effects their defence I suppose Terran BS get's targeted by just about everyone, but they should see oppertunities on all races Feel free to correct me I could add an explanation by every fleet, but I don't know if I cba :p |
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To be serious, that was more hard to understand than the ship stats.
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Orly, I added alliance defence ships
Their plenty of combinations possible And added a small amount of text I might add some fleet or race evaluation later if I have time |
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That's a very interesting approach. However I think for dummies you have to be precise.
If 'fast def' means defender shooting first... just write it. The more the people have to guess about the meanings the more confuse they'll be. |
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call me a dummy but thats more complicated that the current stats page
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Stop being so ignorant, you clearly don't want to see the full picture
Sadly you do require some basic understanding of the game with this one I apologise for that |
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Its the stats i dont understand n00b |
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Alright, you win, someone change the topic
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I think your main problem is that you're using a lot of shorthand which makes sense to you but isn't clear.
What does BS > CR, DE, FI mean? BS is stronger than them all? BS gets shot by them all? BS shoots them all? What? |
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It's the definition of the fleettype
BS fleet, which targets the following > CR, DE, FI goes up against: These ships who shoot first, and these ships who fire afterwards It's also easy to spot which ships can be send by the alliance in this part You should keep in mind which shiptypes are used in fleets of certain races If you see that DE will have to face fast Xan FI and FR , and xan FI and FR are the Xan attackfleets Then you will know you wont get past Red means it will get hard to get trough in general Red is the color of danger \o/ Below that in the stars part you can see how well the defence of races is against certain types of incs But if you look at it the other way around You can see in how well fleets are in general against certain races Ofcourse this differs from planet to planet The stars part is mainly a popularity contest of shiptypes, with attackfleets being the most popular builds Xans for example are well capable of stopping Cruisers, but it will proberbly take a while before they will try unless they just read this I added this txt to the link |
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I hate all that txt, it was so simple and clean :p
When the stats are final I might change the whole thing into a written race/fleet guide, but I'm not 100% sure |
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whats wrong with leaving it just the way it is and not inflicting your confusing interpretation of it on the rest of us |
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xandathrii base attack fleets are corvette and frigate why? because no amount of fighters will help your corvette fleet to get through scorpion, for instance, and, spiders on the other hand stun corvettes without being fired by fighters (excess weight in fighters and less weight in corvettes makes you vulnerable to these, for instance). |
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Personally, i think its a good thing that people are going out of their way and contributing to others. Even if one person finds what Alessio put up useful, then i dont have any problems with it being discussed here. Its a bit unfortunate, though, that the terminology used was a little ambiguous - there was a lot of potential for this page to be a very good resource, provided people could tell at a glance what it meant. Alas, that just means that now there is room for improvement :). |
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