This World Cup is the worst ever (DRAMA)
 

I wish to express my dismay over this worldcup.

Yesterday in the match croatia-australia I have seen the worst referee actions in recorded history. I have had my doubts over referee dicisions all the time this tournament but last night´s match was the worst ever.

Three penalty fouls were overseen in that match alone. The ref had no control so was pulling yellows and reds left and right. He forgot to pull the red after giving someone a second yellow so he actually could continue to play. The one team continually fouled the other with no consequence. And that is this match alone.

The same with holland-argentina. Foul after foul unnoticed, dutch get yellow cards left and right for no reason, two penalty fouls unpunished.

In short my friends, this world cup is rigged. It is about business and not competition. How? Simple.

For the sponsors it would be nice if their brand is seen by as many people possible. So, who would be economically more interesting - holland, or argentina? Croatia, or australia? The ref will (you can check this) always favour the team that has the MOST PEOPLE WATCHING ON TV.

In brazil and argentina the millions of people actually live in front of the tv, watching game after game. This means unlevelled brand exposure in these countries. If they would be knocked out, this would probably mean 200 million people LESS who see the coca cola commercial.

It´s so blatantly obvious it sickens me.

Bleh.

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Yeah because Brazil and Argentine have both come dangerously close to being knocked out this world cup.

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the ref last night was Graham Poll.

nuff said.

EDIT - I wonder which country has more people watching the football - the US or Ghana... (or the czech republic for that matter)

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I surely did not mean that although you have to admit that Argentinia and Brazil play way below their normal standards and foul like mother****ers.

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What an idiot that man was. FFS. Someone employ this man for the love of christ.

The US has no interest at all in ´soccer´. They prefer baseball and other forms of ´culture´. Even though they have a north-american soccer league (oh hah hah, lets´s play against canada and see who goes to the WC).

I did not mean to say they make the one team win against all odds, but they sure level the field for certain teams. I´m sure Australia yesterday was not supposed to win, but they did anyway.

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the referees this tournament are way way better than last time around, Merk and Poll have made the biggest cockups to date, buts overall its a lot better than japan/korea. The ending of teh aussie game was fantastic drama.

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It was apalling and not befitting a world cup.
Maybe north westbankenham vs cockendale FC, but not here.

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Every 4 years, someone complains on how the World Cup is poor/rigged/whatever.

Please stop.

The World Cup has a lot of drama. Twists and turns. Anything can happen.

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How did the Ref bias against them? By not giving them 2 clear penalties?

Also, link
I would assume that more americans would watch a match involving the US and that they have a combined spending power much higher than that of Ghana.

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the ones that are into it get terribly upset when you say that, you're still safe to say it on these forums because they're still into playing rounders but their are ligitimate fans who know as much as anyone

http://worldcup.blogs.nytimes.com/?p=221#more-221

in the uk they have crappy budweiser ads that make a mockery of american ignorance, it was funny the first time around but tbh those ads just grate me now.

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xtrasyn has a point.

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Is this a joke? I'm presuming so seeing as koen agreed with you which is always a dangerous sign.

Australia got robbed of two clear penalties. A player that should have been sent off for croatia wasn't.

While Argentina may have a larger population than Holland I'm going to go out on the sturdiest limb in history here and say that the average Dutchman has more disposable income. Further that match was fairly meaningless. If you honestly think FIFA are jeopardising the future of football by telling all its referees for the world cup to favour the side with more people watching you're a moron.

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fact is that bigger countries/clubs more often have the ref on their side, than against them.

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I have very little idea how you're going to go about attempting to prove that, and that wasn't really the issue originally contended, but I'm rather interested so feel free to go ahead.

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watch a random footballmatch.

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That's the worst argument I've ever heard. Get out.

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Ive doubled checked the Paedophile register and found the usual suspects.

Poll
Wilkes
Alcock
Rennie
Barber
D'urso
Wiley
Barry
Durkin
Ellery

Screaming perverts the lot of them

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Probably the most unsubstantiated sentence ever uttered on the forums.

The fact is referees make mistakes. Shit referees invariably make more mistakes than good ones.

Collina was consistantly excellent for many years, that's the level today's refs need to aim for.

If refs were proven to be biased in any way they wouldn't be refs anymore ie they wouldn't have a job! No livlihood!

I'm sure most refs wouldn't have a clue how many people are watching on tv and even if they did it wouldn't affect them.

The fans in the stadium maybe, but not those congregated around a tv in a favella in Brazil.

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*Clap clap*

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Errr no I was serious sorry.

I´m a lot of things but not a moron and you know that. It´s not about income or spending power but about product placement. The average tin of coke would be a few pesos in Argentina, whereas we could not even produce it for that amount in Europe. Though the argument stands (the income and buying power thing) I think it is not the point. Coca cola would rather influence the minds of 200 million than 20 million people, period.

And FIFA is not to blame, they are just as much about sportiveness and equal athlete opportunities as let´s say, the international olympical comittee. (BOOM BOOM)

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So many refs have been terrible this WC, but Poll took the piss yesterday. Anyway...

Poll set for early World Cup exit (BBC Sport)

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Does that mean I can sue that referee because I lost 5€ for Australia not winning their game?

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Do you honestly think Coca Cola or FIFA or the Easter Bunny bought off referees for certain games? How much do you think they'd have to pay them, how would a large amount go unnoticed by the tax offices and surely at least one ref would have sold his story or let it slip by now to someone. Further if it was all about pure numbers why didn't China get in or Japan progress to the next round?

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You're not doing a good job of demonstrating that in this thread dude. :(

p.s. Everyone loves an unsubstantiated conspiracy theory.
p.p.s. I bet if you do the numbers you'll find that very few Jews have been sent off in the World Cup. Coincidence? I think not.

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• There were one or two instances in which someone got away with a foul that was overlooked. However, that goes for pretty much any football match.
• The yellow cards given were all correct.
• I've only seen one real foul that could or perhaps should have been awarded a penalty: when Ooijer was pretty much pulled down to the ground during an early corner.

Cantalejo was mostly shit in the sense that every form of attacking play was stifled, because as soon as any of the Dutch strikers jumped for a header right next to an Argentinian defender, he'd blow the whistle for an attacking foul, when replays clearly showed that absolutely nothing happened. I think he did this a few times to Argentinian strikers as well, so it wasn't bias, merely shit refereeing.

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Haha! :)

I think it is now more than clear you are all IN ON THIS.

HOW MUCH DOES FIFA PAY YOU?

/irony

No clearly it´s not as bad as I think it is. It´s one of those things that when you see two green cars and a dozen other differently colored cars you think ´whoa green cars are popular here´. I have seen 3 refs now cocking up bigtime (in favor of the bigger, most popular team) and I´m looking for answers.

Sadly I don´t know any fifa refs personally, otherwise I would not have bothered to discuss this on GD of all places. ;)

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That's a rather strange approach if you don't mind me saying.

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Blame humanity, everbody does it. It keeps you sane.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...06/5108722.stm

Im so proud to be English!

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Sane and wrong or insane and right, your choice. I've made mine.

wibble

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Melodrama.

Another thing that has to be pointed out is smaller nations / teams are more likely to remember and champion injustices against them than bigger teams are. IIRC Argentina should have got a blatant penalty against Serbia, but didnt. However, whatever the outcome of the WC, im not sure they are going to come home and make a huge deal about it.

Bigger (and therefore usually better) sides get into the penalty box more often, try and spring the offside trap more often, and therefore by the law of averages, are more likely to get the decisions when they come. If Henry is marginally offside or level 5 times a game he might be called onside once if we have an error rate of around 20%. But if theres just one marginal decision from Adebayor of Togo, chances are its going to go against him.

As a celtic fan, i have to put up with this all the time, hearing all this crap about the refs. A dundee united fan will moan on for years and years and years how they should have got a last minute penalty in 1999 to make the game 2-2, but this year for example, when dundee utd scored two blatantly offside goals against us, you dont hear a peep - nor, as the "bigger club" do we have the right to complain without backlash. Its just small team paranoia my friend.

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However I've been barraged for years now about juventus getting that late penalty through amoruso's dive :(

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I've kinda noticed that Australia seems to get the sharp end of the stick rather alot when it comes to referee decisions. Aus nearly lost the first Japan/Australia game as the Japanese goal was permitted even though another Japanese player decided to push the goalie out of the way. The fact that three goals were scored in the last 10 mins isnt really the point.

The Brazil game was pretty good, us wooden spooners only lost by 2 goals, but still i dont recall any incidents in that game that were over the top (permitting that Japanese goal was definately over the top in terms of errors).

And the shambles regarding the Aus/Croatian game was just depressing :(.


I know that occasionally a couple of fouls that should be, arent, and a couple of legit plays are called as fouls, and everyone who has a "reasonable" outlook on life knows that these things happen and at the end of the day it all balances out. Having said that, who did Australia insult when it came to umpiring decisions?! :(

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yeah good example, good zing :( You are entirely correct.

I suppose they werent all over us that game though, and it came from nowhere just when it looked like we might win :( The worst part was Moravcik was booked for a dive when he was scythed in the return game. But we won 4-3 in one of the greatest ever CL games so i was all :up:

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This thread was stupid and can be summarised succintly as:

THE REFEREE'S A WANKER!

THE REFEREE'S A WANKER!

THE REFEREE'S A WANKER!

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damn you all, i was just going to come on and post a thread called 'what, no poll?' but you have been discussing it all day :( bloody work actually being busy so i couldnt get online earlier :(

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There´s still time to jump on the bandwagon if you want!

We have not had any exit poll puns (BOOM BOOM)

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That wasn't a foul.

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last night while out and rather drunk I was having a discussion with a mate about today's football. Todays football really is shit because of your attitude about 'fouls' I swear to god it seriously has turned shit because of players comlpetely over exaggerating and people claiming any contact is a foul. The may aswell ban slide tackles because thats what its resorting to at the moment

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It wasn't a foul as the keeper moved into the player as opposed to the other way round. On top of that, the ref missed a stonewall pen to the japs at 1-1 which would have killed the game in Japan's favour. Yeah, so the Aussies are really on the sharp end, I'm sure.

The only game I've ever thought was rigged was Italy v South Korea last world cup which was an absolute farce from start to finish. Although maybe Buffon had a bet on the Koreans at 10-1 :(

People moan about Poll, but we have to put up with him week in week out and him being shit (although not that shit) is hardly surprising. Refs are ****s at the best of times, especially when you are a smaller team as reputation can sometimes edge a decision for or against you. Fact is you have to win in spite of the ref. If you're ever watching Match of the Day, there are plenty of games where the backdrop to games at Fratton Park has been the crowd chanting "WANKER" repeatedly, in honour of the referee.

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you think premiership ref's are bad?
try league 1. Some of the decisions made by refs down there are baffling.

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I believe the problem must be related to the MIND RAY MACHINES the big companies have, so all they have to do is point the MIND RAY MACHINE at a referee during a game and he'll automatically take into account the GDP/disposable income/rate of inflation/national debt of the particpating countries and make a decision based on that fact.

If all referees aren't wearin tinfoil hats for the quarters and semis I think we'll all have xtrasyn to thank, for making us aware of the global conspiracy and the existance of MIND RAY MACHINES that make dumb**** referees instant economic geniuses.

Thank you xtrasyn, thankyou.

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Oh **** :(

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No-one here has seen the Panorama program on BBC1 that aired a while ago on the corruption in FIFA starting with Sep Blaater. They showed the proof about it all.

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Here you go old man

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Well goddamn... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programme...ma/5070224.stm

Believe me I´m completely baffled.

(Whoever negrepped me - u guyz r so owned lo lol fags ha ha)

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Corruption when awarding contracts is ridiculously common and I don't imagine the World Cup is any different. That's completely different from match rigging though.

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actually, iirc it was mostly about referee payments.

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for all we know the italians gave aids to fifa :(


but i think mr syn does need foil hats