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I am not so sure why I posted this. Oh well.
15 dollars little man, put that money in my hand! |
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Kevin Smith used to be cool.
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I'm still a fan of Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, and J&SB Strike Back
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Deep down, hes still a comic book geek like the rest of us. |
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Yeh , hes done some absoloute shite recently, but i fancy him for a big comeback, no bollocks, classic movie sometime in the next few years. And I liked JASBSB |
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I think the problem that Smith has is that Clerks was one of those kind of films that you either love or hate, and filming it in black and white made him seem remotely artsy, which anyone whos watched An Evening With Kevin Smith, knows is nothing like the guy. Hes just basically kept doing what hes been doing, the quality of what hes doing isnt falling, hes just being perceived differently now because hes established, so he isnt taking as many risks and a lot of his comedy is cliche. Alas, thats what an american cinema audience wants, hence why hes becoming less popular with a lot of people. |
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Seriously - I saw an advance screening of it back in May at Kevin Smith's Vulgarthon film festival and it blew everyone away! This was shortly after it's unprecedented eight-minute standing ovation at Cannes - and Kevin was still on a high! I think the guy deserves a genuine bonafide box office hit (although it is worth notice that none of his movies have ever lost any money) and this could be that hit! |
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I've never seen any of Kevin Smith's movies. Frankly I've never seen an interest in them, the previews I've seen for them look lame and retarded, putting them in the why waste my time category.
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It depends very much in what you're in to. Dogma was very good, and jay and silent bob strike back was OK, if a bit silly. I want a sound clip of jay going "bong" for my computer when it makes an error noise, although the novelty would probably wear thin after a while.
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Hours of side splitting laughter await you. |
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J&SB Strike Back was fairly weak as a stand alone movie, it was really just one big 'in joke' for anyone who had seen the other movies to wrap the whole "Askewverse" up. If you werent a fan of the other movies and thus didnt get the references there just wasnt a great deal to take from the movie, probally because as others have said J&SB arent charachters worthy of being leads. Infact if i recall wasnt the movie done as part of a deal betweeb Jay and Kevin so he would get clean, a deal that Jay quickly broke once the movie was a go.
Jersey Girl I thought got alot of stick that it didnt deserve, it was far from being a masterpeice and was at times over sentimental but as far of movies of that ilk go it was better than 90% of them. The whole "bennifer' affair certainly did it alot of damage, after Gigli the studio got jumpy, the test audiences reacted badly to any scene with JLo and Affleck in (and especially bad when both were in the scene) and it ended up being butchered. The longer cut apparently works alot better and is a significantly better film. The other problem it had was the audience for a Kevin Smith film typically isnt after a film like this. People whom went in likinghis other films were always going to be somewhat dissapointed with this film Of the first 4 movies I've always found Mallrats to be the weakest. Chasing amy is the best imho and is exactly how a good Rom Com should be, it doesnt get overly sentimental, it doesnt drift into Chick Flick territory and the dialogue is sharpe and entertaining. After Chasing Amy it would probally be Clerks, its not a particularry well produced movie but its so well written you quickly get over the fact its in black and white and has low production value. With Dogma I cant really fault it, its lacking something that Clerks and Chasing Amy have and I'm not sure all the castings are that great (Chris Rock and Linda Fiorentino especially) but it is well written in most parts and has a good message at its heart about faith Anyway I'm sure Clerks2 will be fab, its going back to what he knows and is best at, isnt trying to build a movie around two wek charachters while hopefully taking some of the 'grown up' elemenst that were present in Jesery Girl to make a little different to the original |
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I dont think I'd have liked Dogma at all had Alan Rickman not been in it.
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Jersey Girl wasn't very good. It wasn't outrageously bad, but it just felt like a mediocre TV movie.
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Clerks was arty but not my bag. Mallrats wasnt very good; though i suppose if you grew up on it or watched it when you were impressionable it might have came off pretty well (re the breakfast club, fast times at ridgemont high, bill & ted). Dogma i absolutely detested, it was cereal box philosophy with a mtv shine. And yeah, it and J&SB were full of in jokes. J&SB had funny parts, then bits where i realised i might as well have been sitting in a room filled with about ten 14 year old guys, one 13 year old girl who has a boyfriend, and one soggy resin-filled joint, because it was designed specifically for assholes. Havent seen his other films. Also, surely the sequels rule suggests that Clerks 2 will be rubbish (to those of you who enjoyed the first one). And my final point is a big **** you to all of you who whine at people for bumping threads, or neg rep them anonymously for it. In fact, even more so if you're non anonymous because then you're even more self-righteous about your faggotry. This thread has been bumped, and revived, and is interesting again, and until we reach such a time as GD is heaving with new threads all the time, bumping threads is not a ****ing big deal. |
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For me the appeal is that it's a film about a reasonably regular guy in a regularish situation (albeit where some fairly bizarre things happen*). It reminds me of the Simpsons before that became a parody of itself with trips to Japan or capturing the Loch Ness monster. In fact, as I've said on other threads, the decline of the Simpsons reminds me quite a bit of what's happened with Smith. Away from semi-realistic storylines and towards crudeness, absurdity and general stupidity. * = In fact, the worst bit of Clerks is probably the bit at the end with the dead guy and Dante's girlfriend as aside from being obvious, it seemed out of kilt with the rest of the movie. |
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If South-America counts, then whoever of you that's against should be castrated. |
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...wait that sounds like me living with my family |
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