Vacation Mode 42:8
1st of all i wana say big thx to vommv, our sister galas, OuZo/Critters/GTO and specialy to Choche for there great help.
reason for vac mode: vommv has lost this war, we all know it. All ppl r waiting now for the split fo weetnarfz (however they wana split). They ll not split before not all vommv galas r dead or out of top 150. We didnt went into vac mode because of the mass incomings. If this would be the reason we had could do it after 3rd day. We didnt switch sides or even tried to get friendly into weet arbiter. We decided to take vommv side at start of round, we fight for vommv, we lost with vommv. Where is the reason now not to split for weetnarfz? they delaying the split (ofc they can do this.. its legal.. if they still have fun in this game atm). Where is the point hitting planets with 70 roids with 8-10 fleets incoming every nite? Even ur own member from weetnarfz r asking there targets who the other attackers r .. to tell them the coords so they can retal them.. <-- is that the point of cooperation? weetnarfz member r moaning that no targets r left. We r trying with our move to change the future of the game. I know it didnt helps if only 1 gal goes into vac mode.. But if we only talk and dont make anything to change this round.. then well.. we can continue this boring round.. i can only repeat.. vommv lost the war. congrats weetnarfz. R u proud now to still hit small galas with very less roids? u even bash planets without recalling ur bash fleets after target runs... Before we decided this move we had long talks with HC, m8s etc.. how we could change the future of this game. Several ideas was made, but we saw that this ideas wouldnt take long. Weetnarfz is running out of targets. There r only very less big vommv galas left. So we thought if we start going into vac mode.. and maybe some other ppl would make the same decision, then we could atleast try to make weetnarfz to think about the situation. They know that they dont have many targets left.. Y u dont split ? We r "dead". Think about the rest of the round.. Make the round happy again.. for all of us (ask ur members if they r happy, show them u r carrying about them). Thx alot to all my lovly gal m8s, u r the best :-) was a pleasure to play with u all. Plz think about the situation before u start flaming this thread. thx alot Nacho_OuZo |
well im all withya on the subject that there are no fun! or no more targets.. :(
but we normal people cant do anything about it.. |
Normally I despise going into vacation mode because of being attacked.
Your reasoning doesn't seem to include a current attack on your gal and it seems this was planned a while before so it is the first time on these boards I read some better reasons to go into vacation mode than usual. The problem still at hands is though that you leave all other remaining gals open who don't go into vacation mode. Though the hope may be that the remaining targets indeed get as many fleets on them so they don't loose many roids and are able to crush some attackers fleets. |
/me salutes @ Nacho_OuZo
it was honor to play with u... i dont wanna know how many ppl were pissed that the attacks didnt went trough :D i can only say to the "winners" , play with urself... maybe u got fun then. |
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Nice :D
it was a honour to be allied with u guys :D We rocked :=) Proud to gave beeen in sister galaxy :p It was truely a hounour to fight with u guys against Weet/Nar :cool: And to Defend u guys ;) Change the game. FFS !!!!!! :up: |
Those others have the same option. I see quite a few people on the balance of doing the same. In my gal a few people just quit playing and at least one planet has been marked for deletion for several days now. If a few more gals would go into vac mode it would really jeapordise the future of PA (even more than it already is) as it might well be that many won't bother to come out of vac mode anymore after a week or so of RL.
hAl |
another "top" vommv gal just went there too....
now they bash randoms...pld ^^ |
i hate it when people go into vacation mode, but nacho as suual your reasons for doing stuff are justified, was an honour to fight by your side in ouzo, and through vomm as always
DA |
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Nacho - u r 100% right about they way things are going.
I have been saying this since a week ago but NARWEET HC don't take any notice... They are just happy to keep bashing VOM and ignore the fact that the game is already stagnating and will be in even worse position shortly! None of them has the balls to do anything independent at this stage! |
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We are at the moment discussing the proper measures to take against this sort of behaviour, because we feel it is detriment, to all that Olympians stand for. on Behalf of Olympian HC Desse |
Yes Hardin, thats right... but i know some weet HC´s and i know they are really "pussys" ... beeing afraid of a vom comeback etc. .
We got incs after the first 3 days (hmmmm some1 leaked our coords heh ? could that be that the vom arbiter was *****d ?) ok - for myself i got no proofs, but it was funny that my gal got each night incs. Ok that was not the "bad" part... we covered us, and attacked instead. Then came the info NAR allied to WEET ... pld thats great ^^ but...thats ur way to play the game ... : quantity of members > skilled members ... yes in that fact u won :up: |
ofc this was our own decission.. no1 told us to go into vac mode.. the long talks with hc what i said in my thread was only about future of vommv and the game..
it was our own decission to go into vac mode! |
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I can really appreciate where you are coming from, but I believe you are wrong.
By going into vacation, you are only preserving what is probably already a small fleet that wont make much impact on the war. What you are stopping yourselves from doing is still advancing along the construction tables to enable you to get better ships/travel times/scans. As you rightly say it is pointless people launching 4 - 10 fleets at you for your 70 roids. However, as you have already stated, you are a crap enough target without having to go into vacation mode. You also said that a few nar/weet people are already complaining about what is happening (they have nothing to complain about IMHO they helped to created the problem) So if there is unrest, why not just sit quietly and not in vacation mode and just collect resources ready to be able to build ships that will make an impact when or if a possible split occurs. |
HC do not always listen to their members, and take their own actions while discrediting their members decision. I have for one had a discussion with my HC about another issue and again I feel that the decision this galaxy made, was a just one. It is their account, their planet.
Alliance HC should run the alliance for their members and be in their service, NOT the other way around. I do not approve or disapprove what those top vom gals have done, it is their decision. Maybe, if more vom gals close their 'juicy' planets from incoming, narweet will be left NO other choice and targets. Btw. Teenwar, sounds cool :P |
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As far as I am concerned there is NO excuse for quitting ones alliance when it needs you the most and NO excuse for defecting. I dont care if there is incoming every night... if you dont like it then quit.. but dont betray the people who trust you and whom you should be loyal too. I guess there are two types of people playing PA hal... the good ones.. and you and your 'kin' who are just out for victory or roidcount. I am sorry if this seems like a personal attack but I have been watching this thread with interest and it was the 'straw to break the camels back' so to say. |
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veery well said aslong as people have this kind of Motto`s there is always hope |
The minute I saw this thread I knew an Oly HC will reply otherwise... judging by his character.
There is no excuseable reason to justify vac mode. |
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First of all Olympians is not Titans If a large portion of members has these kind of ideas, but the HC doesn't, something is wrong. |
sorry, but vacation mode is the most cowardly way out. Apparently saving your roids is more worth to you then losing friends and respect.
Congratulations. |
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You suggest that by staying in the game I would aid my alliance but to be fair the only thing my alliance gets from me are defcalls which off course they cannot send def too anyways. The reason to go into vac mode (if I ever will) is that I do not have any motivation left to play. At this very moment there is nothing in this game that motivates me any longer to play. I'm a real strategy games fan and this game has nothing of any real interest in that part and is not likeley to become of any interest for weeks or even in this round anymore. A large group of players have decided to make this game in something it was never supposed to be. I can not even feel any pleasure for one of my best friends in PA leading this round cause there I just lost 5 or 6 m8s in the last few days who have said farewell to PA (allthough I hope one or two will return for the new round 10). And for my will to win or give a damn about roidscount. I prefer playing random and am against joining a powerblock. I'd rather enjoy a round at rank 1000 than waste my time fighters cheaters to get into top 100. hAl |
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I gotta laugh some..
If you havnt formed vommv there would never be a WEET There would only be Elysium and Wp as allied (like many rounds before) ToT would prolly gone with eclipse or another alliance, maybe a vommv alliance ? Who knows.. but itwas not WEET that made the first block. And ive attacked 42:8 twice, first my scout died, and i went back with 1 less harpy.. Last time I went home with 152 roids that was good at that time, i must say Im impressed of 42:8 and they had good contacts, what was wrong with u guys last time ? I never liked bashing, and i still dont like bashing... but even the lion eats grass when its no meat left.. :rolleyes: I was about to launch on 50:5 before they went into vacation mode, i wasnt very happy, and i still think its not the best way go for the cause. The future is unsecure, anything can happend, but i hope it ends in the better way, for PA survival, and non bashing :) anyways, I would like to see Elysium outside the WEET, stand alone, fight side by side with other alliances, BLocks should be banned.... every alliance for itself.. that would be something.. Elysium could stand up by ourselfs, maybe made us look like n00bs, but god damn i would be proud. /me was only mins away from hitting the delete button and get a rl :mad: Baxrus, Elysium BC |
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Some find fighting for a hopeless cause is honourable but to me it is a waste of effort. There is little honour in not being able to admit you lost and continuing to put time and effort of your members in a cause for abuslutly no thing to be gotten out of it. If you go into vacation mode you might be giving up this fight but frankly there is atm not something worth fighting for. Losing is no shame, nor admitting you lost by going into vac mode. Vacation mode will at least give the players a few days to get out of this losing streak and revover a bit mentally. Also in this round it is a statement of protest against the way some alliances take this game to seriously and ruine the whole concepts of the game. And then when you get out of vacation mode you can at least set yourself new goals and play a round mayby not to win anymore but to enjoy playing again. Mayby to annoy a few people you wanted to get back at for a while and trash their planets. hAl |
looks like ppl dont understand this thread.. and this is sad to c..
who cares about roids? plz think before u post. i got basehd in r5 and r7 with every nite incomings.. this thread has nothing todo with "affraid" of incomings.. or loosing roids. hal is right. this post is a protest, statement!! to change the future of the game.. since atm we r able to change something in this boring round! we only have to work 2gether.. we discussed this as galaxy.. im not affraid loosing roids or fleet.. we lost allready.. its to wake up ur minds! to get something to change in this game.. who cares about roids.. so plz think before u flaming us! |
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Abuse of vacation mode, how bravely cute ;)
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The problem is, and you will have to excuse me for being unimformed but I am retired is that the ratio of weet to vom is crazy... I have seen numbers of 1500 v 400 and thats simply insane by anyones standards. Someone claimed if vom hadnt been formed.. weet wouldnt either, well maybee your right... but certainly a 'mini weet' would. ALl alliances in this game strive to win.. some however will do anything they can to win.. including making a abnormal game ratio between block a and b. If vom hadnt been formed.. and they were indavidual allainces.. then one of the weet alliances would have taken a single allie to secure victory. You ALL KNOW this is what would have happened.. I think people should reflect on what they want from pa.. a) a 3 week round followed by 9 weeks of stress free irc talking and game stagnation b) a 12 week game of constant conflict... Clearly we all know which one weet.. and yes vom have picked. |
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Sitting here watching 5-10 incoming fleets at each planet and we are barely in the top 200, let along the top 100. Yes even the planets with only 70-80 roids. Trin |
The stratergy of going into vacation mode is a valid one.. however much I disagree with it... it will do one of 3 things
a) force weet to split and fight to prevent boredom b) for weet players to become bored , quit thus weekening the alliance c) make weet pissed and wait until the come out of vac and smash them From what players tell me.. anything is better than fighting a war against 300% of your numbers and having no chance for even growth never mind victory. And before anyone flames me for propeganda or whining... I have no reason to do both... I dont play PA seriously.. I am just an observer. |
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Because people refuse to get kicked over and over while lying down they aint cowards. Just sensible. Its better to have a good night sleep catch up on real life, or do some other fun things that is much more worth your while. Friendship isnt limited by Planetarion as a game. Oh, and regarding respect; the "winning" side this round have earned no respect from anyone. A worthy opponent who give you a good fight and run for your money, is someone to respect. Respect is earned and given nothing you can take or demand. |
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We are blaiming wrong parts here... |
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We all should be able to deal with it. |
lay a little egg on me
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"some woom hc are to stupid to build an right alliance....sorry but i attack as long i can" Riiiight. Great intel those guys got :p Maybe we should get honoured being bashed by a top #3 galaxy + their support cronies. Good show guys, be proud of yourself. You did good today (heavy sarcasme) You get attacked, it happens each round, its a part of the game but its a difference from being attacked and to be exterminated and driven from the game. |
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So in r6 when Deus and XETA (or whatever coallition it was that round, scuse an old woman who can't keep sides apart across all those wretched rounds heh) were giving us a run for our money, all i had to do was go in vacmode and i'd have been a hero? Is that how it works nowadays? I'm sure you'll forgive me when i laugh when i see you come back from vacmode with all your roids still intact as soon as the tables turn in your advantage. I'm sure you'll all be very proud of yourselves then and claim it was your nobility and persistence that paid off 'heh' Respect to Olympians for taking such a clear stand on this. Now stop all the babbling and nitpicking and go back to playing a game. If this was real life you'd be the ones on hungry-strike to show the protest, and we could easily have you committed to a psychiatric ward and force feed you. I wish creators would remove the vacmode button :/ In all the many rounds i played, and of those all the times i've been living on the bottom of the foodchain, i've never ever felt inclined to take a political stand by means of deleting my planet or going in vacmode or anything alike. Gaming and blabbering should be seperate, that's why you've got AD to troll and a planet to build ships on. |
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The only reason for the weet+others block forming was to be 1000% sure of victory. Dont complain about what VOM do to force you into action.. something that you should of done yourseld by now. |
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That's really how you think? If you're beaten down and don't have the will anymore to get back up, then delete in peace and quiet, have a real life with some beer and some wild nights and come back if you're ever tempted again. God, i've been attacked by multies that got deleted right after (who cares right, not like i get my roids back heh), been roided and farmed by the #1 player when i wasn't even 1/100th of his score (yes in those cool days before the newbie-protection law was thought of) who coincidentially got deleted as well at the end heh. Sure i've shouted at my screen, and suicided my fleet a couple of times thinking if i go down i'll annoy at least someone with it heh. But never have i considered making a big fuss about it, or wanting to show a protest by avoiding the game-essentials. If i were that fed up, i'd just leave the planet lying around for anyone to find and roid, or just delete it and find myself a nice pub and some mates to have a laugh with. Maybe i just don't 'live' the game as much as others do. But this smells more of an attempt to hold the entire game-tactics hostage than a truefelt call for sympathy heh. And be honest, who responds well to pressure and blackmail? :) |
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When you join an allaince you have a certain responsability to the other players, your actions effect their fun just as much as your own and a whole gal going into vacation mode completly removes their firepower from alliance control. This highlights my point about types of players in PA.. Its not 'I I I' it should be 'we we we' its a shame people seem not to understand that. |
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Ofc we wanted to win with our block when we had to fight "ugly" vommv. But this could be prevented even before the round.. And vommv HC knew they was outnumbered if they stod alone. Hence afraid of losing, and lost they did..Maybe they would last longer if it was alliance vs alliance, and not block vs block. I miss the time when Fury excisted, then we had a reason to build ships, a reason to launch on them.. Elysium was created cos we were suppose to fight Fury.. Now they are gone and we had to find new enemies, We had allready looked in Virus and Madcows (since we was ELysium and WP) |
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No, I take that back....I get a reply, incoming from the same galaxy three days in a row. Most people don't have the emotional or social maturity to win graciously and keep the fun in the game. They forget that they are playing 'real' people. Trin |
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Its like saying "he is an idiot, so better be an idiot yourself to not blend out"... |
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If you were afraid of a vom block.. you create one of EQUAL SIZE... damn even double the size if you want to be sure... but not 3x and CERTAINLY not near 4x the members... as far as I am concerned this is cowardly... plain and simple. |
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You speak of an alliance having less chance to be effective ? Please clarify this ? What is your effectivness aimed at ? You seem have any realistic goal that requires this effectivness atm ??? To me it seems much more effective to give your members a small breather and a few good nights of sleep. After that they might be much more motivated, not in winning off course, but to show that even when small you can still play a good game. hAl |
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thats what i would do.. but then again I am a nasty tw*t |
I hope you're ashamed of yourselves.
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In past rounds of Planetarion there been more players.. way way more players. Its been room to recover and grow back. Nowadays most random and casual players quit, you got the hardcore players left. They just wont sit there initiate roids for the other side. When roid growth stop in the universe so does everything else. |
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