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Ok so amoungst the PA Team and Support Team my spelling has become to be known as abit of a joke. However when I find myself writing things (and typing ofcs) I find that as far as my brain is concerned when I read things I am correct, that or I tend to get letters the wrong way round or not enough of them when there is a letter repeated (like tt in 'letter').
When I was a kid at school in year 7 I was told I might have mild dyslexia but not that bad. I have 20/20 vision says my recent eye test (1 month) ago, yet I am starting to again have all the same problems I had when I was younger. Does anyone else suffer from this kind of thing and is there anything I can do or places I can contact to try to sus out / fix whats wrong with me? I don't mind the piss takes on the spelling but it has made me realise there maybe an underlying problem. Any thoughts anyone? |
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I suffer from Dyslexia, Dyspraxia and a High Level Language disorder. If you go to your Universities Special Needs office when uni starts up again, they can give you the tests for it to see whats up :)
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ah cool thanks Smudge. I got discovered as a potential problem when I started secondary school pruely via tests they did on all new pupils. Spelling / maths / problem solving etc..
Thanks for the info. I'll go check it out :-) |
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So is dyslexia a requirement for support team then, or just a strange coincidence?
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I used to suffer from dyslexia.
my dear darling teachers used to run themselves ragged with worry over it now I can spell. these things take time. |
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I will admit it is something that is starting to worry me slighty :s
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I didn't try in school because then it didn't matter. after school it mattered because retards would try to dismiss my point because it was incorrectly spelt. We all just need the proper motivation. We need to stop pretending that correct spelling comes easier to others than ourselves: it always takes effort. The word dyslexic means - 'I'm never going to try because I will always fail'. It's a useless word. A very destructive word. Spelling is like dieting. There are no quick fixes and there is no excuse for not trying. |
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Spelling wise I do try my best, taking forever, but I am trying :( |
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when someone points out a mistake you've made get pissed off: get angry. then you'll remember not to make it again that's how I learned (keep learning) |
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A Cambridge University study concluded that it doesn't matter what order the letters in a word are arranged. The important thing is that the first and last letter are in the right place. The rest doesn't matter. This is because the human mind does not read every letter by itself, but the word as a whole.
For example: Aoccrding to a reserach at Crmbaidge Univsreity, it dosen't mtater in waht oredr the letters in a wrod are. The olny ipmortant tihng is taht the frist and lsat lteter be in the rihgt palce. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it wuthoit prlboem. Tihs is bscauee the huamn mnid deos not raed erevy letter by iteslf, but the wrod as a wohle. |
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thats unrelated to dyslexia qazok.
besides, within pateam its always been called a case of zeusitus. Its actually quite contagious - just about everyone in there has suffered from it at one point or another. |
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it was wakeyitus before it was zeusitus
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'Dyslexia' is a very silly idea. Take any average group of kids and it isnt really surprising that youre going to have a high degree of variance in their abilities; some might struggle to grasp arithmetic, whereas others may be terrible at drawing, and others might have reading problems. Students should be ideally be given extra attention in the areas where they are struggling and encouraged to work harder to develop these skills, but pretending that there's some innate 'learning disorder' holding them back helps noone. I doubt that there's any real difference between struggling when it comes to reading ('dyslexia') and struggling in mathematics.
I was always very bad at 'practical' subjects while at school, and my drawing/crafts/painting/etc skills were signficantly worse than those around me, despite my english/maths being a lot better. It would be stupid to invent some 'practical ability learning disorder' to describe this though - I was just good at some things and not at others, like most people. Quite apart from the scientific dubiousness of the dyslexia idea, youve also go tthe potentially serious problem that having students and their teachers believing that they're suffering from some innate 'disorder' is likely to have an adverse effect on their work ("I'll never be any good at maths so theres no point even trying"). Quote:
For most skills, it probably isnt important whether they come 'naturally' to you, which is probably why noone has bothered inventing a disorder to cover them. Not being to draw or play the violin is unlikely to have a serious effect on your life, so most people are content to just say "I'm not very good at art/music" and make no effort to develop their skills. But when it comes to something as important as reading/writing, you cant really do this; basic literacy is fairly important in most areas of life, so most people should be encouraged to keep trying their best to improve their skills in this area, even if they are 'naturally' less talented here than the average person and have to work a lot harder than others in order to reach a decent level. (I've put the word 'natural' in scare quotes all through this post because I dont want it to sound like I'm saying that this sort of ability is necessarily determined by genetics rather than upbringing. But regardless of the initial cause, it does seem to be fairly obvious in many people by the time they're midway through primary school). |
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I think in general there's no ingherent problem with inventing terms for being especially bad at drawing / writing / reading / maths. Yes, people can react by treating these terms as excuses why they're not very good at x, but that's a problem which doesn't seem insurmountable. |
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Well im a trainee teacher, and I personally feel that there is to much labeliing not with dsylexia but with ADHD and asperges syndrone. I think these are very real to some people as marv was saying, but to others it is simply a case of your aggro and misbehaving lets give you a title so its not your fault.
Also as Dante said people are good at some things and not good at others, I was good at science and maths hence im teaching them, i was honestly terrible at art, It looked like i was epileptic when i tried to draw so it was a waste of time me doing them lessons as simply put i was never going to improve, I accepted this so should the teachers instead of trying to label me with some disability |
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so basically i'm just a retard? :s
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no not at all marv, i simply said there is people who get labeled to confrom them into an acceptable society. Your not one of them, also you can get these cool things from doctors, its effectively like a stress ball, you squeze it with whichever hand you dont write with so when you do write its promotes concentration and higer learning when your writing so you make less mistakes.
A few kids at the school i teach at use them it seems to help them, eventually you stop squeezing the stress ball and you write/type perfectlly just an idea edited for my ironic and accidental typos Lp |
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TomKat is better than you aestuos, if we want someone to talk about teaching, we will ask him because he is our chosen expert, not you filthy takeover wannabe teacher.
TOMKAT FOREVER AESTUOS NEVER |
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I never said i was an expert, in fact i stressed being a trainee teacher. Also i never said that my opinion was correct. And to be perfectly honest KaneED, marv had a problem, i sugggested a way which might make it better, ripping my idea down is a little immature to be honest i was simply trying to help. Also its good TomKat is a teacher, but saying that im a filthy takeover is unfair, you have no idea how good my teaching skills are so please dont comment on them. the country im in England struggles to find physics teacher and i believe the job i do is of a high quality and im helping people which is more than i can say for the majorety. Basically dont comment on something which you know nothing about, ask TomKat, its a hard job teaching so dont slag people who do it, its hard enough. |
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My spelling and grammar is better when im not in a hurry, also i know english is important in all sublects but im a science teacher not an A level english teacher. |
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So the ?sublect? you teach is science? So proper spelling of scientific terms is not important in the ?sublect? of science then? I'd also hope that because you're a teacher you would have a decent command of the English language regardless of whether you're in a rush or not... ________ LisaLovesLife live |
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Go and read my announcements on the announcements forum..and noitce they have been edited several times :( Thanks for the info aestuos - not sure how I would use a stres ball when I type, but I assume I use it whrn writing and it then transfers and bebefits both. Feeling slightly better about the whole thing now :-) |
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spelling is overrated, as long as the argument or thought behind the written work is interesting i really couldn't care less if it was written in text speak. Admitedly i have a prejudice against text speak because anecdotal evidence suggests people who use it are mongs but i can't rule out someone syng somfing rly cleva bt riting leik dis.
My mum has a real problem with spelling, she can write really well but just can't grasp spelling. It doesn't bother her in the slightest she uses a spellchecker to make sure everything is ok. |
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As opposed to most people who complain about being 'dyslectic', you actually have decent sentence structure etc. I mean, the wast majority of people complaining about being dyslectic use horrible long sentences without punctuation. They simply write like they speak. They lack practice in writing, and most likely haven't read all that much either, so they have no idea what makes text easy to read. Given their lack of practice, it's no wonder they suck :( Quote:
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i just lost 130 rep points for not laughing or summet hmmm. Anyway i think any stress ball should work, but the best thing is to go doctors and ask them for advice, something can normally be done to help if not he will explain that its a common problem for people.
at least your trying to sort it out which is all that counts marv gl |
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gd is one of those places where if you miss the joke, and continue to post defensively you get punished usually.
either via humiliation, or neg reps - often a combination of both. |
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Everyone's help is much appreciated :-) |
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Is everyone deliberately making spelling mistakes in this thread because its title is 'dyslexia'?
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Marv, as suggested, see your uni senco and they will be able to do certain tests etc.
dyslexia and dispraxia are very real, but unfortunetly, for most people, its not fully understood. Indeed, I come across profesisonals every day that simply do not understand exactly what it is, and how to deal with it. For instance, it is widley assumed it comes down to simply reading, but this is widely incorrect. You will find high incidences of individuals having difficulties dressing themslves. Whilst sight IS tested, its not genrally the sight that is being tested, but dominant eye/hand, and again, these will offer differ in Dyslexic children. There are exercises you can do, though I believe its not been proved they can aid an improvement, mentally I personally believe they can. Its all based on cross over activites that use both sides of the brain, to strengthen the link between both left and right sides. Whilst I admit I dont have any experience working with adults of which dyslexia and dyspraxia is an issue, i ahve worked with children with the same condition for 10 years now, both in supporting the children concerned, and testing all children who are suspected of having any learning issues. Feel free to dop me a pm, or you can find me in #poker |
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Basically I consider it a waste that I had to sit around learning (or trying to learn) things that I'll never use, whereas the skills I use every day (e.g. computer skills) were atrophying. Maybe it wouldn't have worked like this, but if you add up all the hours I spent doing art, or music or German and converted that into more science / maths / IT lessons I think my education would have gone better. |
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But even on a practical level (ignoring the morality of freedom) forcing people to study things they don't want to learn doesn't really seem to work anyway. Maybe a limited number of people need that sort of coercion, but I doubt it applies to the majority. I might have liked things like art or music or PE, if I didn't have some ****s forcing me to do it. |
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What do you mean by "doesn't seem to work"? It worked with me, I didn't enjoy any of my science lessons really, but I can still recall large chunks of them. Teaching people that don't want to learn certainly isn't as easy as teaching people that do, but it can be done. Quote:
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