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CBA	13 May 2009 15:14

R31 tick 450 | Current state of politics

An interesting day on sandmans today it seems with Ascendancy taking a big loss in roids as well as ROCK/F-Crew and tof/evo/dlr/nd/xvx all taking a decent rise.

From this I can only assume, every tom, dick and harry are hitting F-Crew, and Rock seem to be the undeserved victims of an Ascendancy assault. However I could be completely wrong. I take it however that alot of alliances must be hitting Ascendancy though, to see there avg size drop significantly P < 0.05

From someone who is not irc active, I'm very limited to the info I have to work with, so if someone could fill me and others, less knowledgable in, we would appreciate.

Tomkat

13 May 2009 15:22

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TOOT THE SUPPORT TAG are up by 1.9% so it's not all bad news!

Mzyxptlk

13 May 2009 15:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CBA (Post 3173936)

A However I could be completely wrong.

Yeah. Rock and Ascendancy are napped. :)

CBA	13 May 2009 15:43

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Originally Posted by Tomkat (Post 3173938)

TOOT THE SUPPORT TAG are up by 1.9% so it's not all bad news!

Oh right, I take it that is because they are categorised with the main Toot(asc) tag and because there planets are so awful, they were able to avoid incommings and possibly were part of the

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Originally Posted by CBA

tom, dick and hary

people who are roiding the likes of F-crew!

Or have I made a mistake? Tomkat, please enlighten me.

CBA	13 May 2009 15:45

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Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk (Post 3173944)

Yeah. Rock and Ascendancy are napped. :)

Oh really!!

Wow, that's interesting. So because of the fact Rock and Ascendancy are napped, Rock seem to have been hit, because of this?? If so, perhaps Rock should re-think there current political situation! As they have faced a massive loss today

So who hit rock and who hit Ascendancy?

Tommy

13 May 2009 15:57

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I roided Rabba, but more out of love than war.

Juice

13 May 2009 16:30

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To be honest we are normally too drunk or too busy taking the piss out of each other to notice defense is needed, that prob why we lost so many roids today :)

ReligFree

13 May 2009 16:39

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Originally Posted by Juice (Post 3173955)

To be honest we are normally too drunk or too busy taking the piss out of each other to notice defense is needed, that prob why we lost so many roids today :)

And the internet thinks you're cool, so a good day all round.

Politics have been interesting this round, with Asc down to #6 in average size and xVx making ground surely they'll have to switch tactics soon. Also rumours of CT hitting an ND gal last night haven't been met particularly well in the "Block-Teamup-Room" (#B-T-R obviously..) with Grog last being seen heading towards Scotland with a shovel and some lime. gm must have his kilt in a twist.

Tommy

13 May 2009 17:09

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That post makes so little sense in the real world, but it's fun if I suspend disbelief for a while.

JonnyBGood

13 May 2009 17:56

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Originally Posted by ReligFree (Post 3173956)

Politics have been interesting this round, with Asc down to #6 in average size and xVx making ground surely they'll have to switch tactics soon.

Yeah. I can see it now. We're going to change tactics and hit one of the only two alliances not actively targetting us! Maybe after that we'll kick a few top members from tag and then ban people from launching fleets for 72 ticks! I have no idea what you mean by politics are interesting. As far as I'm aware this round has consisted of us agreeing to avoid xvx pretickstart and then everyone hitting ascendancy (on and off so that some nights were heavier than others) after about a week while we napped rock after two. Oh the fluidity of this round's politics, how will anyone be able to keep up :(

Kargool

13 May 2009 18:06

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Originally Posted by CBA (Post 3173936)

An interesting day on sandmans today it seems with Ascendancy taking a big loss in roids as well as ROCK/F-Crew and tof/evo/dlr/nd/xvx all taking a decent rise.

Yeah, 525 roids lost in one day is a huge impact to an alliance. Especially when you only got 65000 left after that.

I suspect that Asc will stop galraiding soon.

PS. If anyone thought I was being sarcastic with the first part, then they deserve a cookie.

[DW]Entropy

13 May 2009 18:22

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Originally Posted by Kargool (Post 3173965)

PS. If anyone thought I was being sarcastic with the first part, then they deserve a cookie.

:salute:

Nestorn

13 May 2009 18:23

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I guess xVx is roiding F-crew, seems to be more of theyre kinda level :P

Edit: And lets keep the asc bashing up, since they kinda wanted a bigger challenge than last rnd :P

Knight Theamion

13 May 2009 19:23

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Originally Posted by Nestorn (Post 3173968)

I guess xVx is roiding F-crew, seems to be more of theyre kinda level :P

Edit: And lets keep the asc bashing up, since they kinda wanted a bigger challenge than last rnd :P

If we put in the same effort as last round you would all cry.

Game^

13 May 2009 19:29

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Originally Posted by Knight Theamion (Post 3173973)

If we put in the same effort as last round you would all cry.

By "we" I presume you mean JBG.

Knight Theamion

13 May 2009 20:06

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Originally Posted by Game^ (Post 3173974)

By "we" I presume you mean JBG.

And Golan and Smasher and all those other unsung heroes. I actually mean anyone in Asc last round besides me.

Elevator

13 May 2009 21:01

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Originally Posted by Knight Theamion (Post 3173977)

And Golan and Smasher and all those other unsung heroes. I actually mean anyone in Asc last round besides me.

you're forgetting me. I'm useless as well.

Mek	13 May 2009 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Game^ (Post 3173974)

By "we" I presume you mean JBG.

Vladel

13 May 2009 23:46

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It is true CT have at this time decided to not let good sense get in the way of CT policy and have started hitting ND gals.

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 00:07

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Maybe you could drop some thinly veiled threats about hitting them unless they do what you think they should do. I'm sure that's bound to work!

gzambo

14 May 2009 10:34

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That only works when you do it

voodoo

14 May 2009 11:32

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to be honest, if the BG's manage to keep this up for what remains of the round (though i seriously doubt it) asc could have what they so much craved for - a challenge.
to quote achi "be careful what you wish for, you might just get it"

Wishmaster

14 May 2009 12:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodoo (Post 3174019)

t
to quote achi "be careful what you wish for"

is a Wishmaster quote if anything!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIFR4XO61Ow&feature=fvsr

Mek	14 May 2009 12:11

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Originally Posted by voodoo (Post 3174019)

well the gap between xvx and asc has closed from 6.2 million to a little over 4 million at present

voodoo

14 May 2009 12:31

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Originally Posted by Mek (Post 3174022)

well the gap between xvx and asc has closed from 6.2 million to a little over 4 million at present

foolish to think that the tiny gap means anything significant unless this keeps up for the rest of the round. but keep in mind, it's asc we are talking about, so i'm curious what JBG will come up with this time to talk his way out of it :D

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 12:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodoo (Post 3174023)

What exactly do you want from me?

Kargool

14 May 2009 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mek (Post 3174022)

well the gap between xvx and asc has closed from 6.2 million to a little over 4 million at present

Trying to create a wedge between xVx and Asc?

lokken

14 May 2009 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Game^ (Post 3173974)

By "we" I presume you mean JBG.

We're called TOOT THE ALLIANCE.

voodoo

14 May 2009 12:57

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174024)

What exactly do you want from me?

i want you to declare me sole heir of your family fortune and then jump off any random bridge, provided it will kill you.

if that's not possible..... then nothing really. I'm just a bit bored at work and AD seems a good a place as any to change that :D

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 13:02

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Originally Posted by voodoo (Post 3174028)

if that's not possible..... then nothing really. I'm just a bit bored at work and AD seems a good a place as any to change that :D

So you weren't curious as to what I'd come up with this time to talk our way out of it (whatever it is)?

Veedeejem!

14 May 2009 13:15

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174024)

What exactly do you want from me?

For you guys to cut the crap and admit you don't want any opposition or any future for pa :salute:

_Kila_

14 May 2009 13:23

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Why wouldn't we want a future for PA? we enjoy playing it.
Sure, it'd be easier for a lot of us who can't be bothered this round if we had no opposition, but I think that if I ever do play another round like I did last, I'd like some sort of opposition. Otherwise it'd be boring.

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 13:24

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Originally Posted by Veedeejem! (Post 3174031)

For you guys to cut the crap and admit you don't want any opposition or any future for pa :salute:

So you actually think I'd like to see a game I've put so much time into and done so much for over the years to just fade away?

CBA	14 May 2009 13:35

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174033)

So you actually think I'd like to see a game I've put so much time into and done so much for over the years to just fade away?

Not just yoU!

Quote:

Originally Posted by VdM

for you guys

voodoo

14 May 2009 13:37

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174029)

So you weren't curious as to what I'd come up with this time to talk our way out of it (whatever it is)?

you yourself probably don't know what it is you will do to bail out your alliance (once again). but i'm confident that if you try hard enough and care enough you will find a way.

:salute:

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 13:41

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Originally Posted by voodoo (Post 3174035)

but i'm confident that if you try hard enough and care enough you will find a way.

:salute:

Me too man! Hence why I won't. I am curious myself though. What exactly do you think the ideal situation/result this round will be?

PS CBA, my question was about me specifically as voodoo had referred to me.

Cocteau

14 May 2009 13:42

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Originally Posted by Veedeejem! (Post 3174031)

For you guys to cut the crap and admit you don't want any opposition or any future for pa :salute:

Wow.

voodoo

14 May 2009 13:45

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174036)

Me too man! Hence why I won't. I am curious myself though. What exactly do you think the ideal situation/result this round will be?

there is never an ideal situation or outcome.

but a state where one alliance is unrivaled round after round is definitely as far from ideal as it can get.

Veedeejem!

14 May 2009 13:46

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Originally Posted by _Kila_ (Post 3174032)

You want the illusion of opposition, if it weren't for some stubborn bg's this round you'd allready have no opposition.

PS: Hows the recruitment going, heard you're still looking for more :)?

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by voodoo (Post 3174038)

there is never an ideal situation or outcome.

but a state where one alliance is unrivaled round after round is definitely as far from ideal as it can get.

I don't think unrivaled is really the word you're looking for, if anything haven't people been claiming that we have no opposition this round and we must be badly outnumbered in order to stop us? Surely in order to provide a rival the best non-asc players should unify into an alliance and fight us on equal terms? Uncontested wouldn't really make sense either, if you look at last round we didn't hit #1 until a week from the end. I guess you just mean where one alliance wins round after round? Please clarify if you don't!

Quote:

You want the illusion of opposition, if it weren't for some stubborn bg's this round you'd allready have no opposition.

Stubborn bgs, saving planetarion from a fate worse than death since round 31 :salute:

Foxman

14 May 2009 14:02

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174040)

Stubborn bgs, saving planetarion from a fate worse than death since round 31 :salute:

would we be better off without all the stupid stubborn BG's? :)

Veedeejem!

14 May 2009 14:05

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Originally Posted by Foxman (Post 3174041)

would we be better off without all the stupid stubborn BG's? :)

It would make it even easier for them, lets stop attacking them & hold hands instead foxman? :)

Foxman

14 May 2009 14:07

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Originally Posted by Veedeejem! (Post 3174042)

It would make it even easier for them, lets stop attacking them & hold hands instead foxman? :)

im always willing to hold hands! can i bring wishmaster? hand3some FTW!

Veedeejem!

14 May 2009 14:10

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Originally Posted by Foxman (Post 3174043)

im always willing to hold hands! can i bring wishmaster? hand3some FTW!

ofc you can bring wishmaster, he's HOT!

voodoo

14 May 2009 14:16

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174040)

do not confuse intentions of rivalry with REAL rivalry (where the other side actually stands a chance of winning). it has not been the case in PA for a few good rounds now.

Asc has turned into a Goliath both in numbers and average quality of members. several tactics were employed to defeat you so far. will the tiny BGs following a similar organizational pattern to asc (stronghold galaxies and loosened hierarchical structure) stand a better chance? I know it's not fair towards you as a person but....i think it is totally up to you whether that happens or not.

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 14:26

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Originally Posted by Foxman (Post 3174041)

would we be better off without all the stupid stubborn BG's? :)

I'd probably wish I was blind less reading the sort of hilarious use a ****ing irc channel posts just above this post so yeah.

Personally I'd rather see another alliance of the same size fight us in order to see if we weren't the best alliance around. I mean fundamentally this round appears to be boiling down to one thing. Can Ascendancy outscore xvx while being hit by however many planets are actually hitting us, or, effectively, is the number of planets hitting ascendancy enough to ensure we can't outscore xvx. So the end result is either yes or no. Either way the entire question and process involved in finding an answer seems terribly uninteresting. It's just a question of sufficient numbers, there'll either be enough or there won't be enough.

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 14:32

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Originally Posted by voodoo (Post 3174046)

do not confuse intentions of rivalry with REAL rivalry (where the other side actually stands a chance of winning). it has not been the case in PA for a few good rounds now.

I'm not really following. Who exactly do you think is going to win this round? The bgs along with ND and VGN (and ct)?

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I know it's not fair towards you as a person but....i think it is totally up to you whether that happens or not.

I don't really care man. I'm confident enough I'd beat you all anyways (after all beating you when you're divided up into smaller tags sounds easier than when everyone's in 1/2 tags) that I don't feel the urge to prove myself. If we lose, we lose, and there'll be no apologies or excuses from me. I won't have put in the effort and we'll have lost. Actually, even that sounds a bit like an excuse! You'll have been better than me/us and we'll have lost.

Kargool

14 May 2009 14:54

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174048)

. I won't have put in the effort and we'll have lost. Actually, even that sounds a bit like an excuse! You'll have been better than me/us and we'll have lost.

Am I the only one who didn't quite grasp what JBG was punching at here?

Veedeejem!

14 May 2009 14:55

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Originally Posted by JonnyBGood (Post 3174047)

The real question is how long will asc (or toot or whatever) and their shitload of members continue to play along with the BG's.

JonnyBGood

14 May 2009 15:05

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Originally Posted by Veedeejem! (Post 3174051)

The real question is how long will asc (or toot or whatever) and their shitload of members continue to play along with the BG's.

I have no idea what play along means.

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