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MotoX 16 Nov 2007 23:24

Who can Win with these members?
 
Most alliances are more or less easy to “read” - they have their target picking time and they launch their attacks between hour x and x.

That also means time for “impact”, or should I say time when things starting to get red in galaxy
status are rather easy to predict.
This we all know (at least them of us who have been here for a while), but why in gods heaven are most alliances channels more or less empty when that happens...?

The answer is easy but...I''m not even going to spell it out here.


So is it an accurate presumption to say that those alliances who got most active(awake) players actually wins in the end...?
Or; Is it personnel skills within the command/players that would be the edge for either losing or wining?




One thing is for sure though; If one alliance had ALL there members on-line for both target picking AND defence calls that alliance would have ended top... X....right?


I know these questions are rather obvious for most of us but some where I hope it awakes the new
arrivals......or not :/


and

The selection of new(old) players must be pretty bad since officers nowadays accept “slackers”!?

Mzyxptlk 16 Nov 2007 23:40

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
And which of those question wasn't rhetorical?

MotoX 16 Nov 2007 23:53

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Give me a break, I'm not trying to “troll” here..... :(

Mzyxptlk 17 Nov 2007 00:25

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
I didn't think you were, it was a serious question. :(

jupp 17 Nov 2007 01:09

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
if you dont play by the higher standards like exilition for example you can recruit just what you can get and just kick those who are inactive with better players while the round goes on.

it is almost impossible to predict if a player will be active or not even if he has a "great PA history". They simply get bored or find out that there are better things to do than play PA :-)

Since a big part of the round is mostly based on organized gal raids by alliances member activity plays a high factor but it might aswell the alliance win who piggies the fewest other alliances over the round :(

P.S.: MotoX is in my galaxy this round and he really isnt that bad!

furball 17 Nov 2007 01:42

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
If everyone plays the same way then it doesn't really matter that they're not playing in the optimal way.

However, it does mean that

Quote:

Originally Posted by MotoX
One thing is for sure though; If one alliance had ALL there members on-line for both target picking AND defence calls that alliance would have ended top... X....right?

this is absolutely right. They'd win.

-=Yggdra=- 17 Nov 2007 10:58

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Are you trying to connect alliance activity with activity in the public alliance channel?

Ave 17 Nov 2007 19:51

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Even u know a simple way how to win and play these games, some choose a higher morale solutions, or simply values things like sleep over the known incoming pattern during the night.

The whole point for alliances, that dont base everything on known activity regarless of everyones personality and gaming methods is to find a way to deal with the inc and inactivity... Maybe morning launches fit better, or then its a "noobish" evening launch, but if thats when you have most of your members online, why not, same u force people to def instead of go out with full force, which would be more lethal for sure.

These games are easy, u can only develope during time by knowing your enemies more and learning their tricks and learn not to trust people :) I had my best rounds over these games when I joined in as a total noobie, simply cause I had most time during the time, that supports the theory its so much about the activity and time u want to put in.

There are many alliances who are stuck to their old rituals and methods and leaves people with lesser activity with no use, there are so few who makes day launches for example, for people who play from work or can only login during days. Alltho luckily there is a system to support offline launches atleast,

newt 19 Nov 2007 20:01

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
its all about politics and which HCs are willing to sell their souls to satan to ensure an easy round victory ... or easy topspot. Hi urwins.

Buly 19 Nov 2007 20:46

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Newt
its all about politics and which HCs are willing to sell their souls to satan to ensure an easy round victory ... or easy topspot. Hi urwins.

Wondering if they're planning on roidracing to the top. What an excelent battlestrategy....or they just wanna be #2 and stay as it for the rest of the round? How does one want to play for such an alliance?
/me salutes all Urwins members

furball 20 Nov 2007 12:34

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Anyone fancy telling me what's actually happening rather than just throwing abuse at urwins?

Mzyxptlk 20 Nov 2007 12:44

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Urwins napped with CT, Urwins napped with Angels, pretty much everyone planet napped with CT, same old, same old.

newt 20 Nov 2007 13:57

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Aye, and if anyone knows of any eXcessum members that have ct planet naps, that haven't yet forcefully rejected them, let me know :(

As for Urwins - I wish I could sit here and rant about how inately shit their hc and politics are - but sadly, I'm not allowed to cos all anyone is allowed to do on these forums is drop innuendo - heaven forbid you make yourself look like an unprofessional hc/alliance! Can't be having that in this era of pa.

ArcChas 20 Nov 2007 14:22

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzyxptlk
Urwins napped with CT, Urwins napped with Angels, pretty much everyone planet napped with CT, same old, same old.

Hmmm... that might explain all the incs we're getting in VGN. :)

Allfather 20 Nov 2007 15:07

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Skill has nothing to do with pa.
Its about being awake at the right hours and using a calc.
Things take 7-8 hours minimum to complete, and even a handicapped monkey can figure out things by then.

Mistwraith 21 Nov 2007 16:49

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
analagy :

a trained chef with a knife can create a masterpiece, an untrained person with the same knife will make a sandwich, and possibly cut off his finger.

sure the monkeys can use the tools, but its what they understand about them and their use that makes the difference between the top monkey and the bottom monkey !

Buly 21 Nov 2007 19:09

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
That's what you get for having HC that like their planet rankings more than their members and alliance.

Recluse 1 Dec 2007 02:38

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
I'm going to newb bump this just because I'm here today, bored at work, and actually have something semi-useful to add.


In all honesty, I think that pre-launching began the downward spiral of activity to what we see it as now.

jerome 1 Dec 2007 02:46

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
pre-launching is a good thing, forced ridiculous activity isn't.

Recluse 1 Dec 2007 09:49

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
pre-launching is a good thing, however haveing members who, thanks to pre-launching, are only there for 45 minutes a day, is not :p

Mzyxptlk 1 Dec 2007 10:55

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Why would they only be online 45 minutes a day? Why would they intentionally do only one of the most boring thing this game has to offer?

Bbud2 1 Dec 2007 20:09

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistwraith
analagy :

a trained chef with a knife can create a masterpiece, an untrained person with the same knife will make a sandwich, and possibly cut off his finger.

sure the monkeys can use the tools, but its what they understand about them and their use that makes the difference between the top monkey and the bottom monkey !


that bull , a j a can whit a few friend and just stay online and own evry1 .

many small allaince hc rotten ppl give ome member away because they wich to control defence and atack (not doing it for other ppl good)

comin from a stupid person still

allaince should have a small ammount of player one big raid , and try to retal evry attacker whit other member fleet , until come the tim where they can wether try for top allaince or quit or settle bak and watch big guy .

been used tryed proven , but you need more than a player to just toy aroud whit evry fleet , and maybe like a round start use a pen and plan the few tick ahead.

trusting player is good , but an attack should be organize by a well fit bc . and a other bc should take care of the retal , tru give allaince list out but any good hc would find other allaince coord pretty quick.


otherwise its a group of friend hat hang out togheter . :banana: ppl around :cool:

Bbud2 1 Dec 2007 20:10

Re: Who can Win with these members?
 
you need to let me edit my tread ffs


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